For those of you keeping the Sabbath........

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The only thing GOD rested from on the 7th day was creating the natural world. It was finished, perfect and complete. There was nothing left to do. That's why he stopped.

Probaly God was tired :rolleyes:
[h=3]Exodus 31:17[/h]King James Version (KJV)

17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days theLord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

 
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Well, ask yourself why then did he not just stop at 6 days. God is not bound by time. He could have rested for all eternity after working for 6 days. He actually created time. So, he created the 7the day for rest as a foretaste of things to come..
Interesting post

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Probaly God was tired :rolleyes:
Exodus 31:17

King James Version (KJV)

17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days theLord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
All that work must have really tuckered Him out That is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

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All that work must have really tuckered Him out That is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

Timbeeeer

was did God bless it and not no other day seeing when God bless is a blessing indeed
 
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was did God bless it and not no other day seeing when God bless is a blessing indeed
hey, Why did he Bless the Land of Canaan? Why did He Bless Jacob and not Esau?

Why did He bless Israel and made them the Chosen?

Why did He change the Sabbath to the Lords day in the New Testament?

Good luck trying to figure God out. By the way I will simply trust His word.\

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Do you believe this doesn't define sin?

... whatever does not proceed from faith is sin. Romans 14:23​


Or that these aren't commandments (which if disobeyed would be sin):

And this is [GOD's] commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, even as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23​
[h=3]1 John 5[/h]King James Version (KJV)
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
 
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hey, Why did he Bless the Land of Canaan? Why did He Bless Jacob and not Esau?

Why did He bless Israel and made them the Chosen?

Why did He change the Sabbath to the Lords day in the New Testament?

Good luck trying to figure God out. By the way I will simply trust His word.\

Timbeeeer
Why did he not bless the first day

Why did you change the sabbath to the first day yet donot follow the rules of how a sabbath is to be kept if Sunday is indeed the new sabbath
 
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1 John 5

King James Version (KJV)
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
Read that text in Greek and see if it might shed some light.

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I wonder why this is still here

1Corithians 6

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Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
 

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Just a couple of thoughts to throw out there and think about.

Wasn't it thoughtful of God to begin the 4th commandment with the word REMEMBER the Sabbath day. Why would He begin it that way unless He knew that we might forget or maybe that the day might be changed some where in time? How gracious of Him to ask us to Remember.

2nd thought - Why do we have to attack each other in some of our responses? I've heard it said and they will know that they are Christians by their love. Where's the love on some of our responses? I would hope that we are all trying to become more like Jesus and remember that we are all growing Christians some further along than others. Aren't we all seeking the truth? Aren't we all trying to follow Jesus where ever He leads? I just ask that we think about the growing Christians on this site and show the love that we are commissioned to share. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life - no man comes to the Father except through Him. Blessings to all at the end of this Sabbath day November 23rd, 2013 - JesusLives
 

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Many will say because we are "free of the law" we no longer have any need to observe the commandments, because they are written on our hearts, and this is true, and because they are written on our hearts we do not have any further need to read them because the veil of Moses is removed for us. Therefor we no longer have need to see them in print, though we do and should always study the Word, we do them as dictated by our new nature, having put on Yeshua. Yeshua did not have to be told to love the Father or his neighbor, because He knows to.

Does anyone here believe the commandments are invalid just because they are now written on our hearts? This is a diabolical attitude. Now, with all on our hearts we do not need to read not to kill, we know not to. This applies to all the commandments and laws on moral behavior. Yes we study them, but our new nature makes it so we do not need to constantly refer to our former tutor, yet what the tutor has taught is correct, mercy where the Lord shows mercy, obedience where the Lord shows obedience.

He is our new nature, and He is our Example.

Do not pervert the meaning of having the law inscribed on our hearts as some satanic excuse not to obey the Father. If you believe "you want to be good," then you are obeying Him if Yeshua is your Savior. What do you think "being good" is other than obeying our Father. It does not take a rocket scientist to understand this basic teaching from the Word.
 
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Many will say because we are "free of the law" we no longer have any need to observe the commandments, because they are written on our hearts, and this is true, and because they are written on our hearts we do not have any further need to read them because the veil of Moses is removed for us. Therefor we no longer have need to see them in print, though we do and should always study the Word, we do them as dictated by our new nature, having put on Yeshua. Yeshua did not have to be told to love the Father or his neighbor, because He knows to.

Does anyone here believe the commandments are invalid just because they are now written on our hearts? This is a diabolical attitude. Now, with all on our hearts we do not need to read not to kill, we know not to. This applies to all the commandments and laws on moral behavior. Yes we study them, but our new nature makes it so we do not need to constantly refer to our former tutor, yet what the tutor has taught is correct, mercy where the Lord shows mercy, obedience where the Lord shows obedience.

He is our new nature, and He is our Example.

Do not pervert the meaning of having the law inscribed on our hearts as some satanic excuse not to obey the Father. If you believe "you want to be good," then you are obeying Him if Yeshua is your Savior. What do you think "being good" is other than obeying our Father. It does not take a rocket scientist to understand this basic teaching from the Word.
Once you lose the false caricature that those who stand against the antiChrist doctrines of law above grace and law mixed with grace, are standing against law itself, your comments will be cogent and whole.
 
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So this begs the question, "Did God really rest on the Seventh Day"? ;)

Blessings in Christ

Timber
The real question should be for who was the Sabbath made. God Almighty knew that man cannot work 7/7 and that is why He blessed and holied the 7th day of the creation week and He instructed man to rest on the Sabbath. But the Sabbath is not just to rest on but also to spend this day glorifying God and Jesus Christ for what They have done for man, and to have fellowship with the same believers and to instruct each other on the Word of God as not everybody knows the Word of God. The believers have to also reach out to the non-believers but not specifically on a Sabbath, but on all days. All days cannot also be seen as a Sabbath day as only the last day in the seven day cycle of creation was blessed and holied.
 
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Just a couple of thoughts to throw out there and think about.

Wasn't it thoughtful of God to begin the 4th commandment with the word REMEMBER the Sabbath day. Why would He begin it that way unless He knew that we might forget or maybe that the day might be changed some where in time? How gracious of Him to ask us to Remember.

2nd thought - Why do we have to attack each other in some of our responses? I've heard it said and they will know that they are Christians by their love. Where's the love on some of our responses? I would hope that we are all trying to become more like Jesus and remember that we are all growing Christians some further along than others. Aren't we all seeking the truth? Aren't we all trying to follow Jesus where ever He leads? I just ask that we think about the growing Christians on this site and show the love that we are commissioned to share. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life - no man comes to the Father except through Him. Blessings to all at the end of this Sabbath day November 23rd, 2013 - JesusLives
God is Great and He is a loving God. God has a lot of time for His creation which includes man. As you rightly point out, God reminds us to remember the Sabbath day and in this world the churches are to be blamed for not spreading the Truth.
Regarding your second comment, many people react when you tell them something which contradicts their beliefs. This has been my experience. That is natural and also the influence of Satan working. The wise man will look at the facts and will then decide what is right or wrong and depending on his belief, will he change or not. Some people see such response as attacks whilst others would see it as positive criticism. Many people out there are searching for the Truth as they are confused because of all the different teachings in the churches. So if somebody attack you about something you have said and you know it is the Truth, accept that. You have planted the seed of Truth in Him and pray to God that He will open the eyes of that person. Jesus also attacked people when they were doing business on the Sabbath in the Church. He was right and the others wrong. He did not apologise as He knew He was right. Do not feel bad if somebody attacks you, rather pray for him especially when you know that you are right.
 
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Yes...it's a shame when navigating from one issue to another one's labeled as being from this group or that group, when in reality we're just trying follow scripture only and return to the faith once held by the saints.

I have family who are adamantly against the Roman Catholic Church, and yet when you tell them that many of their doctrines they firmly hold as true came directly from Roman Catholicism they either make excuses or ignore what I say. There are literally publications directly from the pen of Roman Catholic officials stating that "the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday was *our mark* of authority..." in the faith. When I read that years ago, that alone sent red flags up. And yet lockstep they follow this man-made decree because "it's what we've always done, and I can't see God having a problem with it". Yet how many times do we have to read God saying "Sabbath...throughout *ALL* your generation" or "do not add to or take away from the commands I give you".

I don't get it...

Without prejudice.
Yahshua, all I can advise you is to pray for them. God will listen to your prayers and He knows who earnestly you are about this. There is also a saying in the RCC that once a child of the RCC always a child of the RCC. That is why they like to teach the young so that they can teach them the doctrines of the church. They are also taught that they must never question the priest as he is always right and you have to accept what he says. It is a major brainwash within the church. The RCC wants to control the whole world with their teachings. Even Billy Graham studied within the RCC and he teaches RCC doctrines in the Charismatic churches. This is how Satan works. He uses all recources in and out of the church to spread the lie. Good luck in your search for the Truth.
 
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2Thewaters

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Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Heb 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;


The church has no more priests, you have to give that up
any church with a priest is fallen to the old ways
Jesus is our melchizadek high priest now.

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Notice:
NO PRIESTS any more.

his is why the Jews killed Paul
he told them priests werent needed anymore
 
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For the Jewish like me, this is the biggest change.
But the holy spirit is sufficient for you if you have a humble heart.
He loves his own people, his brothers very much
and wants them to come to the new church, one heart and one soul.