Is the Hebrew Roots Movement a cult?
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And your fleshly mind must judge and accuse. If scripture says the new covenant is better, that saying is to be accepted.
You have been saying that one thing scripture says is better than another thing scripture says. Your mind only jumps to the material in scripture. We are to accept scripture and learn from it, nor say one scripture is better to learn from than another scripture that is often said here.
It is hard for me not to tell you how things really are, but that is unkind. I will not let you bring me down to your level!!!
You have been saying that one thing scripture says is better than another thing scripture says. Your mind only jumps to the material in scripture. We are to accept scripture and learn from it, nor say one scripture is better to learn from than another scripture that is often said here.
It is hard for me not to tell you how things really are, but that is unkind. I will not let you bring me down to your level!!!
You are creating lies and fabrications and proving everything I said.
Lie number 1 - "The HRM is about balance."
Lie number 2 - 'not your "this is better"' I never said that.
Lie number 3 - " Look at you reading one testament more than the other, rather than seeing the unity in all" This is a blatant lie as I told you several times before that I read the whole bible. I have never said anything to the contrary. For the record, it is none of your business what I read.
Lie number 4 - "Post after post is opposed to the Old Testament"
Again, I never said this and it is a lie. I enjoy reading the OT to see how it relates to Christ. Sometimes God even tells me thing about the OT.
Lie number 5 - "Your posts say to learn "this" as better than "that."
Where have I said what people should believe? That is not my style.
Your posts are frequently filled lies and exaggerations and almost never include a scripture. So please, if you want to say what I believe, please post the statement I made and not spin a yarn about what you think I may of said.
Lie number 1 - "The HRM is about balance."
Lie number 2 - 'not your "this is better"' I never said that.
Lie number 3 - " Look at you reading one testament more than the other, rather than seeing the unity in all" This is a blatant lie as I told you several times before that I read the whole bible. I have never said anything to the contrary. For the record, it is none of your business what I read.
Lie number 4 - "Post after post is opposed to the Old Testament"
Again, I never said this and it is a lie. I enjoy reading the OT to see how it relates to Christ. Sometimes God even tells me thing about the OT.
Lie number 5 - "Your posts say to learn "this" as better than "that."
Where have I said what people should believe? That is not my style.
Your posts are frequently filled lies and exaggerations and almost never include a scripture. So please, if you want to say what I believe, please post the statement I made and not spin a yarn about what you think I may of said.
You are saying (although you will deny it) that HRM is not about balance. A plain false accusation. Your posts are filled with law talk, and you say it is from Moses we get the law you object to. Moses is in the OT. Now you deny it.
So, you object to my defending the HRM, now you say you aren't objecting to it. May I say that you now approve of their study of the OT? Going deeply into all parts of scripture, and seeing the OT as the roots of the new so it digs deeper into the meaning of the new is what the movement is. You have said you object to this. Now you don't? \
Or are you objecting to some wild untrue accusations against them?
Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? 2 For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. 3 Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
Your 'love' for Torah?
Hmmmm.
-JGIG
No . . . Messiah doesn't "run the priesthood", He replaced it.
The priesthood of the Old Covenant was from the Tribe of Levi.
Christ Jesus is of the Tribe of Judah.
Christ does not "run the priesthood"; He OCCUPIES it.
The priesthood of the Old Covenant is gone - replaced by the Perfect High Priesthood of Christ of the Tribe of Judah.
New priesthood; New Covenant.
Simple.
-JGIG
The priesthood of the Old Covenant was from the Tribe of Levi.
Christ Jesus is of the Tribe of Judah.
Christ does not "run the priesthood"; He OCCUPIES it.
The priesthood of the Old Covenant is gone - replaced by the Perfect High Priesthood of Christ of the Tribe of Judah.
New priesthood; New Covenant.
Simple.
-JGIG
The dead to sin alive to righteousness is the walk of a follower of Messiah, not dead to righteousness.
If you keep reading it is clear...
7What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin
12So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
14For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin.
22For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,
25Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
law of sin is the ways of the world
Law of Yahweh is the Torah.
How easily you twist Scripture.
If you keep reading it is clear...
7What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin
12So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
14For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin.
22For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,
25Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
law of sin is the ways of the world
Law of Yahweh is the Torah.
How easily you twist Scripture.
PS in Isayah 66 and Zechrayah 14 it say the Feasts and Sabbaths will be kept in the 1,000yr reign.
Please offer you interpretation for each passage?
Isayah 66:22-23, "For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make will remain before Me, says Yahweh: so will your seed and your name remain. And it will come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh will come to worship before Me, says Yahweh."
Zecharyah 14:18, "If the family of Egypt will not come up and present themselves, they also will have no water; they will receive the same plague with which Yahweh of hosts strikes the heathen who will not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles."
Please offer you interpretation for each passage?
Isayah 66:22-23, "For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make will remain before Me, says Yahweh: so will your seed and your name remain. And it will come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh will come to worship before Me, says Yahweh."
Zecharyah 14:18, "If the family of Egypt will not come up and present themselves, they also will have no water; they will receive the same plague with which Yahweh of hosts strikes the heathen who will not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles."
A follower of Messiah?
or
A follower of your misunderstanding and twisting of Shual?
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
or
A follower of your misunderstanding and twisting of Shual?
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
There are 7 Feasts representing the works of Messiah 1st and 2nd coming.
Not all have been fulfilled yet.
Passover represented the Sacripfice of Messiah and He fulfilled the Sacrifice, yet Yahweh says to honor this day perpetually.
Should I listen to Yahweh and honor it perpetually, or listen to Constantine and celebrate Easter and Christmas?
Not all have been fulfilled yet.
Passover represented the Sacripfice of Messiah and He fulfilled the Sacrifice, yet Yahweh says to honor this day perpetually.
Should I listen to Yahweh and honor it perpetually, or listen to Constantine and celebrate Easter and Christmas?
K
Romans 7: 21
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.