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The anti-Christ is referred to as the "lawless one." He does not regard the law.
Now if a person has come to know Yeshua, will he obey the law, or be lawless.
For once we have known the grace of Yeshua and deliberately sin, we are recrucifying Him.
Now, I believe Yeshua, and, YES, I have succumbed to sin since I know Him, but I do not sin deliberately, for I have always observed His law since I have had power of reason thereof. I live in grace, and I remain in grace because I honor God by obeying Him.
Ask youself, do you honor Yeshua by your obedience? If you want to obey Him, knowing you are not perfect, nor is any man, then you will do what He has shown is His will, obey His law. Grace does the rest as long as you believe Yeshua is your Way, your Truth, and your Life. He is Mine forever, Praise Yeshua, amen.
Now if a person has come to know Yeshua, will he obey the law, or be lawless.
For once we have known the grace of Yeshua and deliberately sin, we are recrucifying Him.
Now, I believe Yeshua, and, YES, I have succumbed to sin since I know Him, but I do not sin deliberately, for I have always observed His law since I have had power of reason thereof. I live in grace, and I remain in grace because I honor God by obeying Him.
Ask youself, do you honor Yeshua by your obedience? If you want to obey Him, knowing you are not perfect, nor is any man, then you will do what He has shown is His will, obey His law. Grace does the rest as long as you believe Yeshua is your Way, your Truth, and your Life. He is Mine forever, Praise Yeshua, amen.
Well, I think there's a lot of activities allowable in those verses... Also, of course, it's legal to do good on the sabbath... A Christian would only want to do good any day of the week... So pretty much any Christian activity... So, it's just a matter of following the leading of the spirit to see which Christian activity to do anytime... Grace to you!
Legalism Oxford Dictionary:
Theology Adherence to moral law rather than to personal religious faith:stress obedience apart from faith and you produce legalism
notice the word "rather" no one here is putting law over faith. but rather they say that Faith in Gods grace changes us.
notice that legalism is obedience "apart" from Faith. We do not teach obedience to be saved but rather that Faith in Jesus and His Grace bring forth the fruit of Obedience.
We teach Faith and obedience.
Theology Adherence to moral law rather than to personal religious faith:stress obedience apart from faith and you produce legalism
notice the word "rather" no one here is putting law over faith. but rather they say that Faith in Gods grace changes us.
notice that legalism is obedience "apart" from Faith. We do not teach obedience to be saved but rather that Faith in Jesus and His Grace bring forth the fruit of Obedience.
We teach Faith and obedience.
H
No, you misunderstand me.
I see the issue is grace verses works of the law.
As for Christ and the law, we see they are linked as described in Rom 7:22.
For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man (Christ in us)
The Christian's "inward man" is Christ in us. It is Christ who has met the requirements of keeping the law perfectly as he delights after the law of God.
Praise God our life is hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3.
Thus we see that when we believe on Jesus, it's our faith that is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
Sadly this is what legalists deny through their righteousness by works of the law, Tit 1:16.
I see the issue is grace verses works of the law.
As for Christ and the law, we see they are linked as described in Rom 7:22.
For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man (Christ in us)
The Christian's "inward man" is Christ in us. It is Christ who has met the requirements of keeping the law perfectly as he delights after the law of God.
Praise God our life is hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3.
Thus we see that when we believe on Jesus, it's our faith that is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
Sadly this is what legalists deny through their righteousness by works of the law, Tit 1:16.
E
so you have to keep learning the law? the schoomasters job is never done?
Sorry but paul disagrees.
Yes, I know algebra. I don't keep GOING back to it. Thats the difference.
The law will not make you moral (righteous) it can;t, if you think it can. you have problems. (and no, I am not talking righteous as in saved)
Thank you EG for putting my mind and heart more firmly on the subject, not that I had answered improperly, but because of your blade, it occurs to me that it is not our spirit that succumbs to sin, not that I ever thought it was, but again, I just stress it is when the flesh is overcome. Everyone should remember this, and act upon it daily. Resist Satan and he will flee from you, and when it proves too much for you, go the the Lamb; He is our Hero, our Champion, our Salvation, our All, amen.
No one has judged anyone here except you. Reread and find condemnation from my part. I think you are grasping at straws in a hurricane. I forgive you, but do not make a practice of this. Judge not lest you be judged, for the judgment you mete out will come back upon your own head. God bless you with His love, amen.
H
Actually we declare what scripture declares, that by works of the law no man will be saved.
Gal 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
As for James 4:17, you err by assuming "good" means obeying the law.
Consider the context of James 4 to see what it means by "good".
Firstly, note that it addresses spiritual adulterers, in adultery with Hagar (symbolic for righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
This is confirmed by James 4:12
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
And note the salvation call to these legalists/unbelievers.
James 4:7,8
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
James 4 is addressing legalists/unbelievers.
Scripture shows us that to do good is to believe on Jesus. The thief on the cross who called Jesus "Lord" did good. He believed on Jesus.
Note also that unbelief in Jesus is the sin the world is convicted of. Unbelief is doing bad.
John 16:8,9
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Of sin, because they believe not on me
Hence we see from the context of James 4 that doing "good" is referring to believing on Jesus.
Gal 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
As for James 4:17, you err by assuming "good" means obeying the law.
Consider the context of James 4 to see what it means by "good".
Firstly, note that it addresses spiritual adulterers, in adultery with Hagar (symbolic for righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
This is confirmed by James 4:12
There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
And note the salvation call to these legalists/unbelievers.
James 4:7,8
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
James 4 is addressing legalists/unbelievers.
Scripture shows us that to do good is to believe on Jesus. The thief on the cross who called Jesus "Lord" did good. He believed on Jesus.
Note also that unbelief in Jesus is the sin the world is convicted of. Unbelief is doing bad.
John 16:8,9
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Of sin, because they believe not on me
Hence we see from the context of James 4 that doing "good" is referring to believing on Jesus.
I said you have to keep using algebra to help you in calculus.
And no, I don't think the law itself makes you morally righteous. God uses the law to show us the proper way to live.
Originally Posted by KohenMatt
Please quote the verses from the original law that state this. Please show me why God said He gave the Law. Show us some verses from the first 5 books of the Bible that show why God gave the law.
No, you haven't posted it. All you have been doing is quoting Paul, and you gave just 1 verse from the Law talking about the curses.
You have refused to quote any verses about when God gave the law and why He did. You have refused to provide any scriptures about whether God offered blessings to Israel for keeping the law.
If we're going to talk about a Christian's relationship to the law, then we should look at what the law actually says and go from there.
And no, I don't think the law itself makes you morally righteous. God uses the law to show us the proper way to live.
Please quote the verses from the original law that state this. Please show me why God said He gave the Law. Show us some verses from the first 5 books of the Bible that show why God gave the law.
No, you haven't posted it. All you have been doing is quoting Paul, and you gave just 1 verse from the Law talking about the curses.
You have refused to quote any verses about when God gave the law and why He did. You have refused to provide any scriptures about whether God offered blessings to Israel for keeping the law.
If we're going to talk about a Christian's relationship to the law, then we should look at what the law actually says and go from there.