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arwen-undomiel

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MISCRISS- How is it going? Haven't seen you in awhile.
 

CatHerder

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I had to use my INFP superpowers today.

I used to support this one gentleman, who would often engage in violent behavior...nonverbal....no one has been able to determine any antecedent for his violent behaviors. Anyway, I think I was making some headway on this a while back, but then he had a bad day, and I couldn't figure out what prompted his trying to strike me and others out in the community. After this very puzzling day, his mother didn't want me to work with him any more. It has bugged me for months that I was taken off the team just when I thought I was making some progress. It turned out that she had been adjusting his meds to make her life more convenient.

Flash forward to today. My boss pulled me from the person I was working with to do some office things (he is pulling me from the field once a week to be an activity developer - kind of fun and new), and to be available for one of our new staff people who is now working with this gentleman, just in case the guy went bonkers and became violent. Sure enough, he called me, and I had to go out to the field to assist. The other coach had the guy in a car, parked in the shade in a park. When they were outside, he would scream and chase him and try to attack other people, so at least he contained the situation as best he could - I've done this too in the past in order to give the guy a cool-down period.

I prayed all the way over there, because this man is by far the hardest person to work with, and I felt that I wouldn't be able to offer anything that the other coach hadn't already tried. I texted the coach the radio frequency for the classical station, as I remember that it had a calming effect on the guy, then I stopped to get some chocolate on the way.

When I joined them at a park, things were calmer than when the coach had called, but the guy was still kind of agitated. The coach had been giving him water, per my text instructions, and the man had given him back the water after a few sips. I reached into the car and handed him the water, telling him to keep it. I then gave him some of the chocolate I had broken off. Later, I instructed the coach to break open his lunch and give him 2-3 potato chips at a time, then do this every five minutes or so.

After a few times giving him chips, things were really calm, so I went and bought a quick lunch while the other coach kept doing the chip thing. Then I had the coach open the door to the car to let him out while handing him his lunch bag so that his hands had something to do other than hit him (the coach was terrified to open the car). I was ahead of them at the picnic tables, but watching. They both walked over to where I was at the tables without incident.

I at my lunch, eventually, the guy sat down as well and ate his, but he got up several times because of all his pent up energy. The other coach did not eat at the time. I need to talk to him about this, because when you don't eat while they eat, it conveys that it is "their feeding time" instead of "our lunch time." This will have to wait though, because as little talking as possible seems the best way to deal with this individual. I suspect that because he is nonverbal, he resents it when people use excessive chatter. Anyway, he eventually settled down and sat to eat right next to me while I also ate. I had no idea if he would suddenly become violent and try to rip my face off, as he has tried to do in the past, or if he would calmly eat his lunch. Thankfully, he ate his lunch.

I left the two to do the rest of their day, and returned to the office. In dealing with this person, I kind of put myself in a state of both extreme calm and hyper-alertness, if that makes any sense - can't really explain it. I'm kind of exhausted when I come out of such state. Anyway, back at the office, I knocked out two big reports.

Not just another day at the office.
 
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arwen-undomiel

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I had to use my INFP superpowers today.

I used to support this one gentleman, who would often engage in violent behavior...nonverbal....no one has been able to determine any antecedent for his violent behaviors. Anyway, I think I was making some headway on this a while back, but then he had a bad day, and I couldn't figure out what prompted his trying to strike me and others out in the community. After this very puzzling day, his mother didn't want me to work with him any more. It has bugged me for months that I was taken off the team just when I thought I was making some progress. It turned out that she had been adjusting his meds to make her life more convenient.

Flash forward to today. My boss pulled me from the person I was working with to do some office things (he is pulling me from the field once a week to be an activity developer - kind of fun and new), and to be available for one of our new staff people who is now working with this gentleman, just in case the guy went bonkers and became violent. Sure enough, he called me, and I had to go out to the field to assist. The other coach had the guy in a car, parked in the shade in a park. When they were outside, he would scream and chase him and try to attack other people, so at least he contained the situation as best he could - I've done this too in the past in order to give the guy a cool-down period.

I prayed all the way over there, because this man is by far the hardest person to work with, and I felt that I wouldn't be able to offer anything that the other coach hadn't already tried. I texted the coach the radio frequency for the classical station, as I remember that it had a calming effect on the guy, then I stopped to get some chocolate on the way.

When I joined them at a park, things were calmer than when the coach had called, but the guy was still kind of agitated. The coach had been giving him water, per my text instructions, and the man had given him back the water after a few sips. I reached into the car and handed him the water, telling him to keep it. I then gave him some of the chocolate I had broken off. Later, I instructed the coach to break open his lunch and give him 2-3 potato chips at a time, then do this every five minutes or so.

After a few times giving him chips, things were really calm, so I went and bought a quick lunch while the other coach kept doing the chip thing. Then I had the coach open the door to the car to let him out while handing him his lunch bag so that his hands had something to do other than hit him (the coach was terrified to open the car). I was ahead of them at the picnic tables, but watching. They both walked over to where I was at the tables without incident.

I at my lunch, eventually, the guy sat down as well and ate his, but he got up several times because of all his pent up energy. The other coach did not eat at the time. I need to talk to him about this, because when you don't eat while they eat, it conveys that it is "their feeding time" instead of "our lunch time." This will have to wait though, because as little talking as possible seems the best way to deal with this individual. I suspect that because he is nonverbal, he resents it when people use excessive chatter. Anyway, he eventually settled down and sat to eat right next to me while I also ate. I had no idea if he would suddenly become violent and try to rip my face off, as he has tried to do in the past, or if he would calmly eat his lunch. Thankfully, he ate his lunch.

I left the two to do the rest of their day, and returned to the office. In dealing with this person, I kind of put myself in a state of both extreme calm and hyper-alertness, if that makes any sense - can't really explain it. I'm kind of exhausted when I come out of such state. Anyway, back at the office, I knocked out two big reports.

Not just another day at the office.
Does he have hand signs, or a personalized picture book to communicate what he wants, or as a way to express himself?
 
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arwen-undomiel

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Nerds are the new heroes, helping damsels in distress with their electronics. 'Thank you kind Sir, what would I have done without you!' *flutters eyelashes*
 
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kenthomas27

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I had to use my INFP superpowers today.

I used to support this one gentleman, who would often engage in violent behavior...nonverbal....no one has been able to determine any antecedent for his violent behaviors. Anyway, I think I was making some headway on this a while back, but then he had a bad day, and I couldn't figure out what prompted his trying to strike me and others out in the community. After this very puzzling day, his mother didn't want me to work with him any more. It has bugged me for months that I was taken off the team just when I thought I was making some progress. It turned out that she had been adjusting his meds to make her life more convenient.

Flash forward to today. My boss pulled me from the person I was working with to do some office things (he is pulling me from the field once a week to be an activity developer - kind of fun and new), and to be available for one of our new staff people who is now working with this gentleman, just in case the guy went bonkers and became violent. Sure enough, he called me, and I had to go out to the field to assist. The other coach had the guy in a car, parked in the shade in a park. When they were outside, he would scream and chase him and try to attack other people, so at least he contained the situation as best he could - I've done this too in the past in order to give the guy a cool-down period.

I prayed all the way over there, because this man is by far the hardest person to work with, and I felt that I wouldn't be able to offer anything that the other coach hadn't already tried. I texted the coach the radio frequency for the classical station, as I remember that it had a calming effect on the guy, then I stopped to get some chocolate on the way.

When I joined them at a park, things were calmer than when the coach had called, but the guy was still kind of agitated. The coach had been giving him water, per my text instructions, and the man had given him back the water after a few sips. I reached into the car and handed him the water, telling him to keep it. I then gave him some of the chocolate I had broken off. Later, I instructed the coach to break open his lunch and give him 2-3 potato chips at a time, then do this every five minutes or so.

After a few times giving him chips, things were really calm, so I went and bought a quick lunch while the other coach kept doing the chip thing. Then I had the coach open the door to the car to let him out while handing him his lunch bag so that his hands had something to do other than hit him (the coach was terrified to open the car). I was ahead of them at the picnic tables, but watching. They both walked over to where I was at the tables without incident.

I at my lunch, eventually, the guy sat down as well and ate his, but he got up several times because of all his pent up energy. The other coach did not eat at the time. I need to talk to him about this, because when you don't eat while they eat, it conveys that it is "their feeding time" instead of "our lunch time." This will have to wait though, because as little talking as possible seems the best way to deal with this individual. I suspect that because he is nonverbal, he resents it when people use excessive chatter. Anyway, he eventually settled down and sat to eat right next to me while I also ate. I had no idea if he would suddenly become violent and try to rip my face off, as he has tried to do in the past, or if he would calmly eat his lunch. Thankfully, he ate his lunch.

I left the two to do the rest of their day, and returned to the office. In dealing with this person, I kind of put myself in a state of both extreme calm and hyper-alertness, if that makes any sense - can't really explain it. I'm kind of exhausted when I come out of such state. Anyway, back at the office, I knocked out two big reports.

Not just another day at the office.
What a great great story...well...........had to look up antecedent:

Definition of antecedent (n)

Bing Dictionary

  • an·te·ce·dent
  • [ ànti séed'nt ]


  • something coming before: something that happens or exists before something else
  • word that subsequent word refers to: a word or phrase that a subsequent word refers to. "Mary" is the antecedent of "her" in the sentence "I'll give this to Mary if I see her."
  • clause expressing condition: the first part of a conditional proposition, which states the condition and is the p component in a proposition phrased "if p then q"
But once I got by that little hurdle I was totally engrossed. Sounds like Sunday dinner at my house. The little frog always gets me sidetracked tho...

Hello my baby hello my honey hello my ragtime gaaaaall

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send me a kiss by wire
baby my heart's on fiiire

I've never seen the cartoon...
 
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arwen-undomiel

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Yes. A PECS type of system.
Doesn't help I am guessing? :/ That's rough. It's hard to figure out what's behavioural (environmental) and what is caused by the disability itself (biological). I work with two guys who have aggression problems. One non-verbal with CP. There are certain triggers that cannot be explained. Like closing a closet door, or moving window blinds, staff walking around the corner, or sometimes it will just be out of the blue, will cause him to try to hit staff and will cause him to hit himself in the face so much that he has made himself blind. We're at the point where new meds are being considered.
 
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arwen-undomiel

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Lemme at Westboro Baptist!! LEMME AT 'EM!!
Srly, you don't want to know what I would say to them if I saw them. Man. I don't think I could resist. Being a Christian and all. I shouldn't I guess. Some tables would definitely be flipped. But it would not be hard to punch one of them in the face. Not hard at all. It'll be goodbye pacifist Arwen.
 
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CatHerder

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Srly, you don't want to know what I would say to them if I saw them. Man. I don't think I could resist. Being a Christian and all. I shouldn't I guess. Some tables would definitely be flipped. But it would not be hard to punch one of them in the face. Not hard at all. It'll be goodbye pacifist Arwen.
I think I like the spunky Arwen better.
 

Oncefallen

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well since you're 30 i doubt you will ever develop schizophrenia because the odds of that happening after about 29 or 30 are very low. it just doesn't really happen, or so i've learned.
Schizophrenia typically develops in the late teens or early twenties. The last I knew no study has determined the cause other than the theory that something "short circuits" in the final stages of brain development. The saddest thing is that is seems to strike the highly intelligent more frequently than others.
 
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kenthomas27

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I like Arwen-Undone (that's how I first read it)
 
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Schizophrenia typically develops in the late teens or early twenties. The last I knew no study has determined the cause other than the theory that something "short circuits" in the final stages of brain development. The saddest thing is that is seems to strike the highly intelligent more frequently than others.
Dodged that bullet.
 

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Schizophrenia typically develops in the late teens or early twenties. The last I knew no study has determined the cause other than the theory that something "short circuits" in the final stages of brain development. The saddest thing is that is seems to strike the highly intelligent more frequently than others.
I wonder why I don't have it.
 

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I wonder why I don't have it.
Be grateful you don't. My uncle was diagnosed in his early 20's (back in the days when insulin shock was the only effective treatment). My memories of him when I was young were all at the state hospital. Although he has spent a large percentage of the past 35 years in a halfway house, he routinely ends up back at the hospital when the disease gets the better of him. He is now in his late 70's and has never lived on his own or had the opportunity to experience "normal" life as you and I know it.