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Those falsehoods were started by the Adventist Church, in particular the by Ellen White and A. Jan Marcussen. Their false teachings are designed to lead the reader to come to the conclusion that "I have to join the Seventh Day Adventist Church" if I want to be right with GOD. AMAZING coincidence eh? NOT! They are manipulating the facts so that they can get more members. CHRIST recognized Seven Types of Churches in the first three Chapters of Revelation, WHO ARE WE TO RECOGNIZE LESS.
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Daniel 2
39 “After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
Clearly: The Body of Jesus is just this, as PROPHESIED.
44... the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
The Holy Catholic Church is two thousand years old, the gates of hell will never prevail against Jesus! Jesus is ALWAYS with his holy Catholic Church to the end of time!
20 Teach them to do all the things I have told you to do. I am with you always, even to the end of time.'
39 “After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
Clearly: The Body of Jesus is just this, as PROPHESIED.
44... the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
The Holy Catholic Church is two thousand years old, the gates of hell will never prevail against Jesus! Jesus is ALWAYS with his holy Catholic Church to the end of time!
20 Teach them to do all the things I have told you to do. I am with you always, even to the end of time.'
Daniel's PROPHESY was about Jesus' Holy Catholic Church!
Daniel 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
To reject the One Church Jesus established it to reject the scriptures!
The Great Commission: Matthew 28:20 "I am with you ALWAYS to the very end of time!"
Daniel 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
To reject the One Church Jesus established it to reject the scriptures!
The Great Commission: Matthew 28:20 "I am with you ALWAYS to the very end of time!"
Antichrist is not Muslim, Muslim not out from us/christian.
Apostle John said Antichrist is from within us/church, but not one of us.
Pretend/look like us/christian but not. Muslim not look like christian. If one worship Allah than we know he is not look like christian.
I John 2:
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Apostle John said Antichrist is from within us/church, but not one of us.
Pretend/look like us/christian but not. Muslim not look like christian. If one worship Allah than we know he is not look like christian.
I John 2:
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
SCRIPTURES: Old Testament >Prophesy< never be destroyed & endure forever
Daniel 2:43
And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
To reject the One Church Jesus established is to reject the scriptures!
Jesus is "ALWAYS WITH his Church to the end of the world"!
SCRIPTURES: New Testament >Prophesy<
Matthew 28:20
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”
The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
To reject the One Church Jesus established it to reject the scriptures!
The Great Commission: Matthew 28:20 "I am with you ALWAYS to the very end of time!"
Daniel 2:43
And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
To reject the One Church Jesus established is to reject the scriptures!
Jesus is "ALWAYS WITH his Church to the end of the world"!
SCRIPTURES: New Testament >Prophesy<
Matthew 28:20
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”
The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
To reject the One Church Jesus established it to reject the scriptures!
The Great Commission: Matthew 28:20 "I am with you ALWAYS to the very end of time!"
I believe I have already asked this on another thread. And to my knowledge it was not answered. But if anyone knows, I would appreciate a response.
As I understand it, Six Hundred and Sixty and Six appears in some of the manuscripts like this:
My Question is: How do we know that this even stands for 666? Is it because it was written that way in other manuscripts? I have seen videos claiming this is Arabic, but it looks like Greek (except maybe the stigma). I have also heard that the Jewish people did not use gematria, at that time. When was it adopted by the Jews?
I have actually stumbled onto something for the number 600, but I don't know if it means anything or not. I keep it in the back of my mind (as often as I can) because I don't expect to know what it means unless God wants me to know. But Revelation seems to come up throughout the Prophetic books in the Old Testament.
As I understand it, Six Hundred and Sixty and Six appears in some of the manuscripts like this:
My Question is: How do we know that this even stands for 666? Is it because it was written that way in other manuscripts? I have seen videos claiming this is Arabic, but it looks like Greek (except maybe the stigma). I have also heard that the Jewish people did not use gematria, at that time. When was it adopted by the Jews?
I have actually stumbled onto something for the number 600, but I don't know if it means anything or not. I keep it in the back of my mind (as often as I can) because I don't expect to know what it means unless God wants me to know. But Revelation seems to come up throughout the Prophetic books in the Old Testament.
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No one knows definitely but 6 is the number of man. With out writing a book it goes back to to the tower of Babel, which became Babylon. They said come let us make brick and a name for ourselves. Everything that God ordained was made of stone. Brick is man made. The altars that Abraham and Issac and Jacob made were of uncut stone.
The mark of the beast is no different as there is nothing new under the sun. I can't say for sure, but the mark will be more like a tattoo, meaning that you have joined some club that rejects God. It cannot be apple pay or something that is deceptive, you know what your doing when you do it. God doesn't operate that way.When you take the mark you are willingly stating that there is no God and it must be by your free will and not by force. But the circumstances may strong. I meant if your baby is crying for milk and the only way you can get milk is by taking the mark, then that is strong.
The mark of the beast is no different as there is nothing new under the sun. I can't say for sure, but the mark will be more like a tattoo, meaning that you have joined some club that rejects God. It cannot be apple pay or something that is deceptive, you know what your doing when you do it. God doesn't operate that way.When you take the mark you are willingly stating that there is no God and it must be by your free will and not by force. But the circumstances may strong. I meant if your baby is crying for milk and the only way you can get milk is by taking the mark, then that is strong.
I agree. I don't buy into the RF Chip, Credit Cards, or anything like that. But I recently found out that it was written Chi Xi Stigma (at least in some manuscripts) and wondered if Six Hundred and Sixty and Six was even a legitimate number. I have also read that the phrasing might suggest something other than "calculating" (as in a number). But I don't know. Just curious.
hello good day..hmm.. let's see this if it worksyeap it's a number alright
on my calculations 666 is a more than power of 333 which is a 2 that is only a 1 but not greater than 2 but is 3 but not more than 6, so originally 3 is a 1 more less than 3 but is equal to 1 turn in to a negative 1 became 0 and continously 0 remainder nothing and so on and so forth.. there you go
how about that! lol
Maybe....?
Islam openly claims the number 666 for the Quran. (Ask any muslim on here/CC, or Google search) they believe it is the God of our Bible that corrupted that number. (God is so wonderful he obviously knew it would work out that way)
The Mark of the Beast is a spiritual mark, (like all spiritual marks mentioned throughout the Bible upon the forehead -it is only visible in the spiritual world --God/Satan)
As for the taking the mark on their 'right hand' ---it is in ref to our doings/works.-- Islam is completely based on how or what they do to prove their loyalty to the religion.
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I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be another religion that will corrupt, mislead and gather as many followers as Mohammed (Billions throughout history and still counting) that will be spiritually dead/ and have them commit awful crimes in the name of their religion /or you will be killed-- like Islam ---in the short time we have left? ( make them take a spiritual mark, to buy or sell, which has been going on for hundreds and hundreds or years already )
Made sense to me, when I first heard it?
Islam openly claims the number 666 for the Quran. (Ask any muslim on here/CC, or Google search) they believe it is the God of our Bible that corrupted that number. (God is so wonderful he obviously knew it would work out that way)
The Mark of the Beast is a spiritual mark, (like all spiritual marks mentioned throughout the Bible upon the forehead -it is only visible in the spiritual world --God/Satan)
As for the taking the mark on their 'right hand' ---it is in ref to our doings/works.-- Islam is completely based on how or what they do to prove their loyalty to the religion.
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I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be another religion that will corrupt, mislead and gather as many followers as Mohammed (Billions throughout history and still counting) that will be spiritually dead/ and have them commit awful crimes in the name of their religion /or you will be killed-- like Islam ---in the short time we have left? ( make them take a spiritual mark, to buy or sell, which has been going on for hundreds and hundreds or years already )
Made sense to me, when I first heard it?
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The premise of the OP is incorrect...
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Notice in vs. 16-17 that the mark is something you must have to buy and sell. Now read verse 18, the number 666 is an identifier that labels a man (the Beast). The mark is one thing, the number 666 is another, they are not the same thing.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Notice in vs. 16-17 that the mark is something you must have to buy and sell. Now read verse 18, the number 666 is an identifier that labels a man (the Beast). The mark is one thing, the number 666 is another, they are not the same thing.
I believe I have already asked this on another thread. And to my knowledge it was not answered. But if anyone knows, I would appreciate a response.
As I understand it, Six Hundred and Sixty and Six appears in some of the manuscripts like this:
My Question is: How do we know that this even stands for 666? Is it because it was written that way in other manuscripts? I have seen videos claiming this is Arabic, but it looks like Greek (except maybe the stigma). I have also heard that the Jewish people did not use gematria, at that time. When was it adopted by the Jews?
I have actually stumbled onto something for the number 600, but I don't know if it means anything or not. I keep it in the back of my mind (as often as I can) because I don't expect to know what it means unless God wants me to know. But Revelation seems to come up throughout the Prophetic books in the Old Testament.
As I understand it, Six Hundred and Sixty and Six appears in some of the manuscripts like this:
My Question is: How do we know that this even stands for 666? Is it because it was written that way in other manuscripts? I have seen videos claiming this is Arabic, but it looks like Greek (except maybe the stigma). I have also heard that the Jewish people did not use gematria, at that time. When was it adopted by the Jews?
I have actually stumbled onto something for the number 600, but I don't know if it means anything or not. I keep it in the back of my mind (as often as I can) because I don't expect to know what it means unless God wants me to know. But Revelation seems to come up throughout the Prophetic books in the Old Testament.
hello good day..hmm.. let's see this if it worksyeap it's a number alright
on my calculations 666 is a more than power of 333 which is a 2 that is only a 1 but not greater than 2 but is 3 but not more than 6, so originally 3 is a 1 more less than 3 but is equal to 1 turn in to a negative 1 became 0 and continously 0 remainder nothing and so on and so forth.. there you go
how about that! lol
It would be whole lot easier if I had wisdom and understanding
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"I believe I have already asked this on another thread. And to my knowledge it was not answered. But if anyone knows, I would appreciate a response."
It is the mark
One must also know who the first beast of Revelation is .... not a human [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]
This mark will also be the mark [number] of the human little horn of Daniel's visions
The mark is already being displayed by the militant Muslims of the Middle east
Read Revelation 13 carefully [Revelation 13-18]
Also note that this marking is simply a signature worn by those that want to identify themselves with the little horn [Revelation 14:9-11] .... and they will require this marking .... those that do not display it will be shut out of the medium of exchange system of the local culture
If you will take a look at the Islamic terrorist enclaves operating in the Muddle East today [ISIL, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc] you will see this marking already being displayed [U-Tube videos]
I would suggest that you also source Walid Shoebat, an ex-Muslim terrorist now a Christian, who has a good explanation of the mark .... he is on the Internet [understand that he is also a target of criticism by Muslims and by certain US liberals]
Nothing to do with the pope and RCC .... all about Israel and the Muslims
It is the mark
One must also know who the first beast of Revelation is .... not a human [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]
This mark will also be the mark [number] of the human little horn of Daniel's visions
The mark is already being displayed by the militant Muslims of the Middle east
Read Revelation 13 carefully [Revelation 13-18]
Also note that this marking is simply a signature worn by those that want to identify themselves with the little horn [Revelation 14:9-11] .... and they will require this marking .... those that do not display it will be shut out of the medium of exchange system of the local culture
If you will take a look at the Islamic terrorist enclaves operating in the Muddle East today [ISIL, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc] you will see this marking already being displayed [U-Tube videos]
I would suggest that you also source Walid Shoebat, an ex-Muslim terrorist now a Christian, who has a good explanation of the mark .... he is on the Internet [understand that he is also a target of criticism by Muslims and by certain US liberals]
Nothing to do with the pope and RCC .... all about Israel and the Muslims
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True.
666/ the number of a man -Mohammad.
If we look at it simply - right now there are 6 out 7 Billion (roughly, depending the source) people who claim some sort of a religion today- I just wonder, how can an antiChrist establish a mark when the whole world is basically waiting for, expecting, .....so they can deny taking it? No one I know plans too?
Also---why on the "right hand"......why not the left one or the arm, and wouldn't an AntiChrist avoid the right hand to dodge prophecy?
Only logical thing left to say is this AntiChrist will purposely fulfill scripture, by using Revelation as his guide to destroy the world? Not likey.
It's about looking at the rest of Bible, mainly Revelation and Daniel, to make sense of all of Revelation. It is spoken primarily in figurative language, so marks, beasts, lampstands, etc, have to flow this way, not picking or choosing which parts are literal to fit our current beliefs. Most of the traditions held today about end times, are just guesswork (like some will say about this) but unlike the currently held beliefs of the 7 yr ,Rapture, Marks, etc, this is supported by scripture and backed by documented history.
If "His ways are not our ways" then we can pretty much assume that God does not think like Michael Bay or Hollywood, so our end times will not be like how we may envision it? I too have seen many a disaster movies like 2012 or Armageddon, that once convinced me that the last days will be on the epic scale of a summer blockbuster movie.
It seems that most of these current beliefs freak people out, and I honestly believe turn people away from God.
I don't know whether people should overall rejoice,(because we wait for His return) or be sad ( empathy/awful for the middle east) because I believe the bulk of the world has nothing to do with a bulk of Revelation prophecy. Also sad maybe?: because these ideas I've shared "leave us out " or makes us seem less important? Sorry, most of it is about the middle east, and all we should be waiting for, is the steady decline in love, kindness, a world getting more and more chaotic, more Islam threats around the middle east.....and then His return.
While the middle east is persecuted, the rest of us will be the ones "eating, drinking, giving into marriage, like the days of Noah", waiting for all of these terrible things to supposedly happen, and that's when " He will come like a thief"
Although I am scared of how bad it will get, I rejoice because the time is soon.
666/ the number of a man -Mohammad.
If we look at it simply - right now there are 6 out 7 Billion (roughly, depending the source) people who claim some sort of a religion today- I just wonder, how can an antiChrist establish a mark when the whole world is basically waiting for, expecting, .....so they can deny taking it? No one I know plans too?
Also---why on the "right hand"......why not the left one or the arm, and wouldn't an AntiChrist avoid the right hand to dodge prophecy?
Only logical thing left to say is this AntiChrist will purposely fulfill scripture, by using Revelation as his guide to destroy the world? Not likey.
It's about looking at the rest of Bible, mainly Revelation and Daniel, to make sense of all of Revelation. It is spoken primarily in figurative language, so marks, beasts, lampstands, etc, have to flow this way, not picking or choosing which parts are literal to fit our current beliefs. Most of the traditions held today about end times, are just guesswork (like some will say about this) but unlike the currently held beliefs of the 7 yr ,Rapture, Marks, etc, this is supported by scripture and backed by documented history.
If "His ways are not our ways" then we can pretty much assume that God does not think like Michael Bay or Hollywood, so our end times will not be like how we may envision it? I too have seen many a disaster movies like 2012 or Armageddon, that once convinced me that the last days will be on the epic scale of a summer blockbuster movie.
It seems that most of these current beliefs freak people out, and I honestly believe turn people away from God.
I don't know whether people should overall rejoice,(because we wait for His return) or be sad ( empathy/awful for the middle east) because I believe the bulk of the world has nothing to do with a bulk of Revelation prophecy. Also sad maybe?: because these ideas I've shared "leave us out " or makes us seem less important? Sorry, most of it is about the middle east, and all we should be waiting for, is the steady decline in love, kindness, a world getting more and more chaotic, more Islam threats around the middle east.....and then His return.
While the middle east is persecuted, the rest of us will be the ones "eating, drinking, giving into marriage, like the days of Noah", waiting for all of these terrible things to supposedly happen, and that's when " He will come like a thief"
Although I am scared of how bad it will get, I rejoice because the time is soon.
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