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Hmmm.

You know AgeofKnowledge, you yourself brought up several red herrings in this discussion.

Your argument throughout this thread has been that -

The rising decline of young man having never married shows that it is because of the terrible choices that women have led them to have – through a child support system and the eventuality of divorce.


Your basis for doing so has been the evidence of many papers, but on closer inspections the number of fallacies are quite astounding.





Well, honestly you haven’t shown us a single scholarly research paper either to corroborate your statements .

The only valid “scholar” worthy research findings that you posted were from the Pew Research Group.


The rest of your findings were from psychology blogs about male identity crisis, declining fatherhood, news article about a man's failure to pay alimony, a youtube video of the matrix and a family studies blog on young adult family issues [which has nothing to do with why men or women do not marry because it talks about issues in families that are already married] as well as an article titled Sexodus, which was absolutely ridiculous .

Quoting from there ---->


Part of the problem is unrealistic female expectations, says Valizadeh. “Getting laid with attractive women has become extremely hard for average men. Women today of average or even below average quality desire an elite man with above-average looks, muscles, intelligence, and confidence.

If an average girl works hard enough, she will be able to have a one-night stand with a ‘hot’ guy every now and then because he happened to be horny and wanted an easy lay. The girl then thinks that she actually can get such a man to commit to her for the long term, and so doesn’t give the average guys a chance, holding out for the type of stud that she had a brief sexual encounter with in the past.”


[whut?]
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So, given their poor scholarship and how far behind an evaluated academic peer reviewed approval all this would be, I would only look at your link from the Pew Research findings.

While you mentioned the rising number of young men never marrying, you failed to mention that the number of women not marrying have also increased.


Quoting directly from the article,

The dramatic rise in the share of never-married adults and the emerging gender gap are related to a variety of factors. Adults are marrying later in life, and the shares of adults cohabiting and raising children outside of marriage have increased significantly. The median age at first marriage is now 27 for women and 29 for men, up from 20 for women and 23 for men in 1960.[SUP]2[/SUP] About a quarter (24%) of never-married young adults ages 25 to 34 are living with a partner, according to Pew Research analysis of Current Population Survey data

None of this is related to a new movement of young men decided they were going to withdraw form a society to escape feminist oppression.
[This would be the essential manism and manosphere world, which is populated by many misogynists]

I would also wonder if homosexuality and it's widespread acceptance of it has not led to a breakdown of traditional views of marriage.

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Also, you made another statement about the relevance of marriage to the youth of today,

well again from the article, here's what it states


Despite, questions on the relevance of marriage, most Americans (68%) continue to believe it is important for couples to marry if they plan to spend the rest of their lives together.

A new Pew Research survey finds that about half of all never-married adults (53%) say they would like to marry eventually. This share is down somewhat from 2010, when 61% of never-married adults said they would like to marry someday. Roughly one-third of today’s never-married adults (32%) say they are not sure if they would like to get married, while 13% say they do not want to marry.




So your statement that most men do not want to marry is false assertion.







Questions as to why they never married, these were the reasons

Among those who have never been married but say they may eventually like to wed, three-in-ten say the main reason they are not married is that they have not found someone who has what they are looking for in a spouse. Nearly as many (27%) say they are not financially prepared for marriage, and 22% say they are too young or not ready to settle down. There are no significant differences between never-married men and women in this regard.


So all in all, as 1still_waters rightly pointed out , you did create a bogeyman for real.




All this discussion and fear mongering. Sigh

For a reality that you constructed.








Wishful thinking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Dramatic is the amount of times people have seen marriage is broken and lives set apart after a disloyalty, and no one would make it public on those papers. Statistically home seems to be disolved for too many reasons (long ago) same way John The Baptist spoke about some Herods (Mark 6:18 For John said unto Herod, It is not lawful for thee to have thy brother's wife. or Mat 14:3 For Herod had laid hold on John, and bound him, and put him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip's wife.
Mat 14:4 For John said unto him, It is not lawful for thee to have her. )
 
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DCrawshawJr

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Like a lot of folks, I just read the first few threads, but already I can say, "GOD BLESS YOU...GOD BLESS YOU."

I'm not ashamed to admit that I seek a wife. I'm also not ashamed to admit why (Going a Little Crazy).

I do admit that single men need to be men and maybe be given the Mr. T talk in Rocky III ("Don't give this sucka no statue; give him guts!")

Now, on being emotionally available, I don't think it really matters. I'm seeking a wife based on what I read in Scripture, and nothing else. I want to have sex, and the Bible says marriage is the answer. In my blog post, I mention how some girls are too scared when I give this talk, and are quite skittish. However, after reading what you read agirlandherguitar, I sense that a girl like you wouldn't be so skittish. You know what you want, and you're not afraid to say it. Still, it's hard to find girls like that, who aren't scared to be led by men. Maybe that's what it means to be emotionally available, that you're not leaving finding someone to chance.

Yes, I know the whole "The right one will come along when you least expect it". However, is that even in the Bible? Didn't people in the Bible take action when it comes to looking for a spouse?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Translation: Grace-Like-Rain is a woman who doesn't want Christian men to avoid the anti-male feminist "family" model the post-Christian society she lives in constructed for her benefit so will personally attack the character of any Christian man that chooses the moral alternative of moving to a country where divorce is illegal and can start a moral nuclear Christian family there to avoid the serious problems associated with the Westernized anti-male feminist "family" model.

Should I add, "The only women I can think of who would object to this is a woman who has control issues, or a very low self-esteem."?

Translation: Men who marry foreign wives who are completely dependent on them - unable to survive on their own, which prohibits them from leaving even abusive husbands... unless of course their husband "sets them aside" which results in no financial burden for the husband to even provide for the wife he "annulled", leaving her again without means to protect or provide for herself. The only men I can think who would want a wife under these specific conditions are men who have control issues, or very low self-esteem.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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You're wrong. I never mentioned anything of the sort. You may be referencing something in an ad that biscuit posted. Please stop propagating untruths about me. Thank you.

I know that Age mentioned something about Filipina wives ironing their husband's clothes and waiting on them hand and foot as an expression of love.
 
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kenthomas27

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This is such a weird thread. IMHO, the whole concept of women seeking some kind of honor in what they do, in how how they live their lives, or respect in the talents and achievements they bring to the table daily has sadly been weakened and corroded by the very word "feminism" and not the thing most of the women I know burned their bras over. That being said, that respect and honor for a women in no way diminishes or subjugates the leadership of a man, but rather enhances it.
 

seoulsearch

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You're wrong. I never mentioned anything of the sort. You may be referencing something in an ad that biscuit posted. Please stop propagating untruths about me. Thank you.
*Tips her hat to Age.*

I don't wear hats, but maybe sometimes I have an imaginary one.

In my mentally questionable state of mind, of course. ;)
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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There is nothing wrong with your state of mind. You simply misread a post. It happens. No problem. Peace :).


*Tips her hat to Age.*

I don't wear hats, but maybe sometimes I have an imaginary one.

In my mentally questionable state of mind, of course. ;)
 
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agirlandherguitar

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I feel like I've created a monster.
 

Lynx

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Eh, it happens. Sometimes we get a refugee or two from the Bible Argument forum come in, take over a thread and use it to rant about something only distantly related to the original thread topic.

Not your fault. =^.^=
 
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ServantStrike

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I feel like I've created a monster.
It's kind of funny when you step back and look at it.


It's like a train wreck, or a car crash. You can't help but stare. And hey, people will remember you know!
 
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agirlandherguitar

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It's a tad hilarious, while simultaneously painful to watch.

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agirlandherguitar

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I'm the one taking the picture.
 
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Shouryu

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>>sees thread on front page of Singles for days
>>reads first post right after it's posted
>>has a Star Wars-type "bad feeling about this"



>>refuse to open thread for a week
>>need something to do while sitting around brother's house
>>decide to read 12 pages of thread

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>>many finger-pointing
>>so attacks
>>too blames
>>such generalisations
>>WOW

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>>"blame everything on feminism" crowd jumps in
>>"American women are the worst" crowd jumps in
>>everyone tries to make everyone else feel bad



>>basically racist and PATENTLY FALSE stereotypes about Asian women introduced
>>old white men, clearly the experts on all things about Asian women



>>look to agirlandherguitar

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agirlandherguitar

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Thank's, Shoyru.

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It crossed the line for me when people started talking about how foreign women are better than American woman. The inappropriateness was palpable.
 

Nautilus

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you have to expect such nonsense when ageofknowledge gets involved. He singlehandedly keeps an anti-liberal thread on the first page in the news forum. He just has so much hate bottled up inside.
 
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Ugly

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The OP sounds like the typical princess attitude. 'All us women are right and Godly and ready. You lousy men need to change'. Same crappy, hypocritical message as always.