Music in Church?
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Heb 5:9 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;"
Jn 6:27 "Work..for the meat that endures unto everlasting life..."
So it is a foregone conclusion without obedient works one cannot be saved in his disobedience.
Works of the OT law do not save, do not justify, so why go running back to the OT when you cannot find justification there?
Christians who make music to their God are not trying to please dcontroversial. they're doing the things that the Psalms say are good, and the NT reiterates that the psalms are good. what is written in the old testament has not become a lie.
praising God is not "keeping OT laws" -- it's praising God. if "keeping OT laws" is wrong to do, you sin every time you obey the ten commandments or do anything that is said to be a righteous act in the OT.
not once has anyone said we are commanded as though by law to make music before God. no one is making music to God because they think it is a commandment or because they think they are justified before Him because of it. the only ones giving out commandments are the ones saying "do not do what the scriptures approve as good" you are not commanded to make music in praise. you are commanded not to add to the word of God. "praising God with instruments is wrong" is not a command of God and is found nowhere in the scripture.
praising God is not "keeping OT laws" -- it's praising God. if "keeping OT laws" is wrong to do, you sin every time you obey the ten commandments or do anything that is said to be a righteous act in the OT.
not once has anyone said we are commanded as though by law to make music before God. no one is making music to God because they think it is a commandment or because they think they are justified before Him because of it. the only ones giving out commandments are the ones saying "do not do what the scriptures approve as good" you are not commanded to make music in praise. you are commanded not to add to the word of God. "praising God with instruments is wrong" is not a command of God and is found nowhere in the scripture.
1) everyone posting in this thread are NOT brothers in Christ. (Which reminds of a thread I intend to start sometimes on ("What Makes One a Christian?....if you really want to see a mess, wait for this thread)
2) I am not forcing anything on anyone. I am just pointing out that God commanded to 'sing' and that men should pay heed to what God said.
2) I am not forcing anything on anyone. I am just pointing out that God commanded to 'sing' and that men should pay heed to what God said.
right you are. to the scriptures!
where do they say instrumental music is abominable in His sight?
but i can show you where they say it is good to make music to Him
that is all.
where do they say instrumental music is abominable in His sight?
but i can show you where they say it is good to make music to Him
that is all.
Simple logic, common sense that when God said to sing, that eliminates playing, humming whistling, etc, etc.
If you order a T-bone steak plate but they bring you the liver plate did they do as you said sense you did not specifically tell them NOT to bring you the liver plate?
When one constantly gets the truth wrong, preaches a gospel of a different kind tha has no power to save and trustinto self as opposed to Christ I can rightfully conclude that the belief system that they teach and promote is opposed to the gospel of Christ and is a heretical gospel that has no power to save...this is for you and LYNX....there is but one way not 50 and if someone teaches contrary to the truth and cannot understand simple truths it proves that they have not been born again...Corinthians teaches that someone who has NO UNDERSTANDING and Galatians teaches that ONE who preaches a gospel of a different KIND are NOT SAVED and still in their sins.....disagree if you like....I will stand on the word......!
And for LYNX...I suggest you study as Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul. Elijah and others used sarcasm and statements such as ...Blind leaders of the blind, hypocrites, white washed coffins filled with the bones of dead men etc......You don't like it...don't read it...but the truth is the truth....!
Again, Col 2:14; Eph 2:15; Heb 10:9 PSALMS IS GONE along with all the rest of the OT and REPLACED by Christ's NT gospel.
You run to Psalms to try and justify IM then why not also offer animal sacrifices also as David, Psa 66:13,15? After all Paul said you would be obligated to keep the WHOLE law not just what you cherry pick out of it?