CINDERELLA...........Revisited

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Don't know how many here have heard the news report of people who are angry about the Story of Cinderella that have popped up these past few days. It may just be here in America, but the Story itself is a world wide phenomena, so I think all can relate.

Apparently, some people are now saying that the Story of Cinderella is "sexist" to the max in what it teaches young girls. Maybe, I can see some points of their argument. That being said, let me offer this bit of insight.

[my comments below are mostly tongue in cheek, but they are also to point out the absurd bias of folks who are dissing the Story]

Shoot! I've known for years that the Story of Cinderella was "sexist" and "hateful" towards men. No, it's true. Consider this..........the whole story tells us that a beautiful young girl conquerors the adversities in her life and meets, falls in love with, and marries a Handsome Prince.

Hey, if that ain't "sexist bias," I don't know what is. What about that poor little farm boy who lived just up the lane from Cinderella? Every day he passes by her cottage, and would see her doing her chores, and his wee little heart ached from the love he had for her. Did she pay ONE IOTA of attention to him? NO!

Now, your gonna say..........there wasn't any such boy in the Story, AND THAT IS MY POINT! Shoot, they didn't even think enough about this young boy to put him in the Story.

The moral being, if you are a poor young farm boy in love with the beautiful young girl who lives in the Cottage just up the lane, YOU GOT NO CHANCE. For she is ONLY thinking of her Handsome Prince. You are "chopped liver" buddy, so get over it!

 
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p_rehbein said:
Don't know how many here have heard the news report of people who are angry about the Story of Cinderella that have popped up these past few days. It may just be here in America, but the Story itself is a world wide phenomena, so I think all can relate.

Apparently, some people are now saying that the Story of Cinderella is "sexist" to the max in what it teaches young girls. Maybe, I can see some points of their argument. That being said, let me offer this bit of insight.

[my comments below are mostly tongue in cheek, but they are also to point out the absurd bias of folks who are dissing the Story]

Shoot! I've known for years that the Story of Cinderella was "sexist" and "hateful" towards men. No, it's true. Consider this..........the whole story tells us that a beautiful young girl conquerors the adversities in her life and meets, falls in love with, and marries a Handsome Prince.

Hey, if that ain't "sexist bias," I don't know what is. What about that poor little farm boy who lived just up the lane from Cinderella? Every day he passes by her cottage, and would see her doing her chores, and his wee little heart ached from the love he had for her. Did she pay ONE IOTA of attention to him? NO!

Now, your gonna say..........there wasn't any such boy in the Story, AND THAT IS MY POINT! Shoot, they didn't even think enough about this young boy to put him in the Story.

The moral being, if you are a poor young farm boy in love with the beautiful young girl who lives in the Cottage just up the lane, YOU GOT NO CHANCE. For she is ONLY thinking of her Handsome Prince. You are "chopped liver" buddy, so get over it!
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I grew up watching at least two versions of cinderella for most of my childhood (I had 3 sisters). I recently bought the blue ray for my daughter, and I am now 30 years old. I never once got the message that I had no chance, or the idea that any other guy may even exist in the story. I hardly call that sexist.

If you're going to whine and cry about it go watch the princess bride, I'm sure that will level out your hormones some.
 
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In Cinderella II one of the stepsisters falls in love with a farm boy. lol
 
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JFSurvivor said:
In Cinderella II one of the stepsisters falls in love with a farm boy. lol
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that was one of the "ugly stepsisters" wasn't it? hehe..............we poor farm boys got no chance for the Cinderella's of this world........sigh
 
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zaoman32 said:
I grew up watching at least two versions of cinderella for most of my childhood (I had 3 sisters). I recently bought the blue ray for my daughter, and I am now 30 years old. I never once got the message that I had no chance, or the idea that any other guy may even exist in the story. I hardly call that sexist.

If you're going to whine and cry about it go watch the princess bride, I'm sure that will level out your hormones some.
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So, you just completely missed this part of the OP?

[my comments below are mostly tongue in cheek, but they are also to point out the absurd bias of folks who are dissing the Story]

 
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You know what? Being politically correct is like walking on egg shells. Somebody has a problem with something, always.
 
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I didn't read anything calling the latest Cinderella sexist and P Rhebin I got that you were joking.

I took my Daughter to see it, she wanted to go, I liked it, she was bored. I remember watching the Disney cartoon version when I was young and kind of found it boring. I liked this version because they showed her time with her Mom and Dad growing up. Also the Prince had a relationship with his Dad and he and Cinderella or Ella met in the woods when her horse got spooked and took off with her on it.

Kate Blanchette was the step mom and she was not really that scary, more resting crab face. Yes she was jealous and petty but they didn't beat her or anything. The step sister's were a product of their environment, shallow and materialistic and not all that bright, but Cinderella sort of pitied them.

I don't think the movie will win any Oscar's or anything but it was good and had a nice message.
 
p_rehbein

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FNC has been talking about the "blow back" for a couple of days now............ :) Will be interesting to see if this "blow back" gets legs and is covered by the other Media........I doubt it, but, shoot, who knows?
 
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Society is a curious thing.

If men feel they're being given the idea that they all must be rich, handsome princes, women are blatantly "told" everyday that they have no worth if they happen to pass the age of 30, get wrinkles or evidence of aging, and weigh more than 110 pounds.

I do understand why some people complain about this and that as far as unrealistic role models go... But then why aren't there just as many complaints that actors such as Tom Cruise and Bruce Willis are always paired with actresses who could be their daughters as their love interest?

Us poor plain girls over 25 just don't have a chance!

(I've actually witnessed quite a bit of this in real life on the Christian dating sites I've been on for years... All the women 20-30 something complain about the 50-70 something men who are trying to pick them up.)
 
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Which is why I said I can understand some of their points.......... :)

Now, as for men feeling whatever.............all of my comments were tongue in cheek.......... :) Written in the absurd to show that I don't think people should be blaming the Story of Cinderella for how women are portrayed by Hollywood, or the numerous Magazines, and TV.

It's just a simple Fairy Tale............it's target audience is very young girls, and I'm not convinced that the whole time they are watching the Story, they are traumatized by the "sexist" inferences in the Story. :) I think they just enjoy watching it.
 
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What they REALLY don't understand is...

Women are just in it for the shoes!!!

Even though I don't think even a top-notch pair of Dr. Scholl's could make those glass slippers any more comfortable...
 
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When I watch the story of Cinderella, I only have one thought,

"Wow, I just wasted 2 hours of my life...
I could have been shaving my back."
 
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p_rehbein said:
Don't know how many here have heard the news report of people who are angry about the Story of Cinderella that have popped up these past few days. It may just be here in America, but the Story itself is a world wide phenomena, so I think all can relate.

Apparently, some people are now saying that the Story of Cinderella is "sexist" to the max in what it teaches young girls. Maybe, I can see some points of their argument. That being said, let me offer this bit of insight.

[my comments below are mostly tongue in cheek, but they are also to point out the absurd bias of folks who are dissing the Story]

Shoot! I've known for years that the Story of Cinderella was "sexist" and "hateful" towards men. No, it's true. Consider this..........the whole story tells us that a beautiful young girl conquerors the adversities in her life and meets, falls in love with, and marries a Handsome Prince.

Hey, if that ain't "sexist bias," I don't know what is. What about that poor little farm boy who lived just up the lane from Cinderella? Every day he passes by her cottage, and would see her doing her chores, and his wee little heart ached from the love he had for her. Did she pay ONE IOTA of attention to him? NO!

Now, your gonna say..........there wasn't any such boy in the Story, AND THAT IS MY POINT! Shoot, they didn't even think enough about this young boy to put him in the Story.

The moral being, if you are a poor young farm boy in love with the beautiful young girl who lives in the Cottage just up the lane, YOU GOT NO CHANCE. For she is ONLY thinking of her Handsome Prince. You are "chopped liver" buddy, so get over it!
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This is an outrage! I am incensed! The shameful way that poor kid was cut out of even getting any royalties from the retelling of the story.
 
seoulsearch

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maxwel said:
When I watch the story of Cinderella, I only have one thought,

"Wow, I just wasted 2 hours of my life...
I could have been shaving my back."
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... And in other pressing news... We now know approximately how long it takes CC member Maxwel to shave his back...

Is it just me or does something seem terribly politically amiss here...
 
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You're living in a post feminist and liberal devaluation and deconstruction of the nuclear family period. The current marriage rate in the U.S. is the lowest on record and youth polling shows that it's going to go much lower.

Before the devaluation and deconstruction of marriage and the nuclear family, average and below average looking women normally found suitable lifelong mates and married them.

And all these years later, seniors rate as both the happiest demographic on Gallup's well-being index and have the greatest percentage of marrieds. But then they married before the feminists and liberals legally and societally devalued and deconstructed marriage.

Now their male progeny have largely decided not to take the new devalued and deconstructed legal and societal marriage contract being offered. They apparently liked the old one better. The result, of course, is that while a minority of wealthy good looking people continue to marry each other at stable rates, the marriage rate is in free fall decline amongst the rest of the general population.



But then sixty years ago, the situation you're describing (50 to 70 year old men trying to pick up 20 to 30 year old women) was against the cultural norms of the period and so something very few women encountered.


seoulsearch said:
Society is a curious thing.

If men feel they're being given the idea that they all must be rich, handsome princes, women are blatantly "told" everyday that they have no worth if they happen to pass the age of 30, get wrinkles or evidence of aging, and weigh more than 110 pounds.

I do understand why some people complain about this and that as far as unrealistic role models go... But then why aren't there just as many complaints that actors such as Tom Cruise and Bruce Willis are always paired with actresses who could be their daughters as their love interest?

Us poor plain girls over 25 just don't have a chance!

(I've actually witnessed quite a bit of this in real life on the Christian dating sites I've been on for years... All the women 20-30 something complain about the 50-70 something men who are trying to pick them up.)
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If anyone has actually read the story of Cinderella then me thinks the sexism thing is kinda lightweight. After all in the actual story the step sisters be cutting off bits of their feet to beguile the prince.

Moral of the story: A poor but surefooted Cinderella is better than a well heeled woman.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
If anyone has actually read the story of Cinderella then me thinks the sexism thing is kinda lightweight. After all in the actual story the step sisters be cutting off bits of their feet to beguile the prince.

Moral of the story: A poor but surefooted Cinderella is better than a well heeled woman.
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How about a barefoot Cinderella?
 
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Okay, I am going to say this. My handsome prince is a country boy that has no problem getting dirty, loving God, and working by the sweat of his brow for everything he has. His hands are rough from all the hard work he does. I am just a simple God fearing, country girl that doesn't want a stuffy man in a suit and tie.
 
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