Since you believe that that which is perfect [complete, mature] is scripture - Can you explain what it means to see scripture "face to face"?
Since you are not receiving "word of knowledge" from God any longer because it has vanished - why should I believe what you are saying?
Do you see everything clearly now or do you still see darkly? Do you know even as you are known?
DC - these are just rhetorical questions . . . no offense meant.
Love you in Christ! PB
Don't worry you didn't offend me.....
Face to face.....I can think of a couple applications......Such as, we have the completed word of God and it is compared to a mirror as the perfect law of liberty in JAMES and when one digs into the word and hears the word it is in essence seeing and hearing directly form God/Jesus himself....The SPIRIT bears witness with our Spirit....When I read a email or letter from someone I know personally I can see their face and hear the words which are coming out of their mouth.....
LOVE NEVER FAILS, BUT<---------THE FOLLOWING will happen
Prophecies---shall fail-->Fail=kataergeo-->to be rendered useless, abolish, cease, to become of no effect, to put away, vanish away.....With the completion of the word of God and the book of Revelation we have ALL we need to know and understand what is happening, going to happen and there is no need for any new prophetic utterences.....God has revealed what needed to be revealed........
Tongues---They shall CEASE--->cease=pauo-->to stop, to quit, COME TO AN END, restrain desist......First of all, tongues means LANGUAGES and when the Apostle spoke in his own language some 15-17 different NATIONALITIES heard in their own LANGUAGE...it was not some MUMBO JUMBO.....At the time this takes place the NT had not yet been written....the HELLENIZATION of the (KNOWN WORLD) by Alexander the GREAT had spread the KOINE GREEK and allowed for a MEDIAN to be used for the spread of the word......By the time the word of God is written (NT) the 1st century had almost come to a close and the Jerusalem Church had been scattered going every where preaching the word and PAUL had turned the WESTERN WORLD on it's head and the bible was now given and written and being spread by witness, apostle, testimony and was sweeping the world....
Knowledge---shall vanish away-->Vanish=kataergeo-->to be rendered useless, abolish, cease, to become of no effect, to put away, vanish away.....This is speaking of the supernaturally revealed knowledge and understanding given by direct revelation to Paul as well as others so as to preach and teach the coming Kingdom and what that all entails.....Again when the WORD of GOD is completed there is no need for this as we now have the Greek New Testament and the Hebrew OT....of the which BOTH would be and were translated into other Languages, God gave witnesses to the truth from some 15-17 different nationalities and the word was being spread throughout the known world.....
The word of KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING now comes from the WRITTEN WORD which CANNOT be changed as the two languages it was written in primarily are considered dead languages......the meanings of the words cannot change or evolve....faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD....HOLY MEN OF GOD WROTE and WE HAVE the completed word of GOD..THAT which is in part is
kataergeo and
pauo because we have the COMPLETED word of GOD and a MORE SURE WORD OF PROPHESY.
Before the written word of GOD, and the COMPLETE picture it reveals, ALL looked through the smoked glass and could not see clearly...NOW WE CAN ALL see clearly because we have the completed WORD and it REVEALS all that we need to know and or can know....
JESUS is the WORD which came to be flesh and we BEHELD HIS GLORY and NOW can SEE GOD FACE TO FACE in HIS WRITTEN WORD, WE CAN MEET GOD on HIS TERMS because the FATHER has been revealed dia HIS WORD...IE THE WORD which came to be flesh and dwelt AMONG US as IMMANUEL.
Paul said...WE know in part, we prophesy in PART, but when that which is COMPLETE IS COME...the KNOWING and PROPHESYING in PART will be DONE AWAY WITH, why? BECAUSE we have the WHOLE, THE WORD OF GOD COMPLETE, THE BIBLE, THE COMPLETE revealed GOD of HEAVEN in HIS WORD.
He compares this all to being a child, thinking as a child, having the understanding of a child, but then becomes a MAN.....HE MATURED...WHAT CAUSES MATURITY in a believers life.....GROWTH....being transformed, molded and changed by the MEAT of the WORD....MEAT (THE DEEP THINGS REVELED) belongs to those who are MATURE.....
and RIGHT NOW...not next week, not in 2000 years, but now ABIDETH FAITH, HOPE and LOVE.....remember LOVE will never FAIL, BUT PROPHECIES, TONGUES and the IMPARTATION of REVEALED KNOWLEDGE (REVELATION) will cease, fail and vanish away when that which is COMPLETE is come.........
Abideth---->meno-->TO STAY, to continue, to endure, to be present, to remain, to tarry
The context is clear.....FAITH, HOPE and LOVE will MENO
Prophecies, Tongues and IMPARTED KNOWLEDGE by REVELATION will CEASE, FAIL and VANISH AWAY