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I do indeed! Bondage and discipline? Sadism and Masochism? You think those are actually acceptable?? I think you need to go back to God and pray about it.
Or would it interest you to know that the woman can be the Dominatrix? The man can be the submissive? Maybe some of the men might change their minds about how wonderful BDSM is if they were the submissive?
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SirsSubmissiveWife,
You seem very happy to me. There is nothing sinful or "taboo" in anything you wrote here. You are a Christian married woman who submits to her husband, who, from what you've written, cherishes and appreciates you. You, and he, are indeed blessed.
I see you now live in the United States. You may or may not have been born here, which shouldn't matter. However, many women in this country, Christian or no, will have a hard time understanding your submissiveness to your husband. But don't let that discourage you from living the Christian lifestyle, according to God's word, that you two choose.
If what you have written is truth, I applaud you. I pray you and your husband will continue to love one another, and that that love will only grow through God's grace.
You are wise to keep with your daily devotions and prayers. Isn't it wonderful how that time spent in the Word and with Him is how we get into His presence and feel His Spirit's peace? Many are to busy to spend this time with Him each day, and then they wonder, "Why do I feel so -------." Some of these very people are quick to dole out their "wisdom" to others, others who do not know the truth, God's word, and are led, ignorantly, astray from the path to truth. Their untruth can affect future generations, if not corrected by the opening of their eyes and heart to the Word and all that is therein, which is the Light of Life.
God help us!
Congratulations on your pregnancy. I pray your child will be healthy and that there will be no complications. And I pray that your child will grow up to be a great child of God, knowing and living in His Truth.
God bless you and your husband, my sister.
You applied the label long before any such admission. If the label followed the admission I would have had no quarrel with you. At the time you applied the label it was uncalled for and I am still against namecalling as a debating style.
Since you were correct about her involvement in that lifestyle congratulations on your insight. You should still save labels until they clearly fit. I have nothing to apologize for.
Since you were correct about her involvement in that lifestyle congratulations on your insight. You should still save labels until they clearly fit. I have nothing to apologize for.
I love how the men in here who labelled ME (erroneously) have no ability to actually apologize for
1) Their inability to see through the OP's manipulative post AND
2) Their false statements about me and my motives.
The fact that I recognized and made transparent her motives doesn't make me a bad person. I was kind and fair in my dealings with her.
But the pride involved in the inability to apologize for clearly false statements about me is interesting...as is the continuing finagling to put yourself in the right and excuse your behavior.
1) Their inability to see through the OP's manipulative post AND
2) Their false statements about me and my motives.
The fact that I recognized and made transparent her motives doesn't make me a bad person. I was kind and fair in my dealings with her.
But the pride involved in the inability to apologize for clearly false statements about me is interesting...as is the continuing finagling to put yourself in the right and excuse your behavior.
R
i will have to say, again through the OP she herself labeled herself vaguely. She just wasn't ready for someone to see through the smokescreen. The OP wanted biblical clarity which she was given. The way poet or I addressed her was nice and we were asking specific questions to help. Submissive became offended on her end because her choice was not validated. A stand I'll proudly keep.
R
the whole reason for the post was for submissive to gain validation for the lifestyle or ask for biblical clarity. Those are her words. I'm on my phone or I'd do the quotey thingy. Not from me. Older women are supposed to teach the younger. That's what women here were doing. Not attacking. She disagrees. Which is fine. But again I'm not going to agree and lead her against what I believe the bible to say. . And don't ask me what I believe. Just go back and re read my posts.
. And don't ask me what I believe. Just go back and re read my posts.
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5 Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body.26 “In your anger do not sin”[a]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry. Eph 4: 25-26
Yes we do. While I understand your views on this, personally I think the bible is rather contradictory about this. Which is the point of my post. Noone is going to change anyone elses views, and I'm not trying to make a whole darn drama thread. I was, I suppose, seeking clarity myself in the biblical matters. But, also I suppose the bible leaves a lot to personal interpretation and dominanation.
Just bringing this clear post back that the OP is talking about BDSM and wanted clarification as to whether this was Biblical or not.
To all who posted it is NOT - I am in total agreement. This is a twisted and sick lifestyle, for people who are not stimulated by "ordinary" love in a marriage.
Call me ordinary, I guess.
her husband is a total....the name you call someone who has no legal father (well, its not used much these days but you know what I mean)
Mark, don't you find that you have insight into situations because of your past or work experience? Perhaps you could recognize that PoetMary was correctly discerning what was happening, even though you couldn't see it. You could apologize to her for your incorrect accusations that she was harsh, falsely judging her. Things you had accused her of doing and asked her to apologize for.
C
I agree with her submitting to her husband and wanting to learn to do it more efficiently. However, as I stated much earlier I don't agree with her calling him Sir, but to each their own I suppose. I also don't understand why most of you have a problem with what happens in their bedroom, it is their bed and they are not asking anyone else to join them. So basically what happens in there is between just the two of them. I am just surprised she would bring it up.
Sigh. Cmarieh, I'll not ask you to look into BDSM, as I think it's a dangerous path; but if you did, based on quite a few of your posts, I think you would not be advocating the way you are. In my experience, someone who is so deep into the lifestyle to be advocating it in (relatively) public isn't playing with it. Yes, a private sex life within a marriage is private. So, why was it brought into the public?
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I believe the following will sum up what most women reading or participating in this thread will agree with:
With that said, there are definitely dark aspects to BDSM in which a Christian should have no part. Receiving sexual pleasure through the giving or receiving of pain is not in agreement with what the Bible says about sex. Sex is to be an expression of love, affection, passion, gentleness, selflessness, and commitment. Sex is to be the literal/physical expression of a married couple being “one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). To bring pain, degradation, or humiliation into the sexual relationship distorts what it is supposed to be, even when it is consensual. The more extreme aspects of BDSM reek of Satanism/paganism and are definitively ungodly and perverted.
In regards to the BDSM subculture, the need to dominate and/or be dominated in a relationship, whether sexual or non-sexual, reveals a psyche in need of being redeemed by God through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ died to set us free from sin and its consequences (Luke 4:18; Galatians 5:1). Jesus Christ always demonstrated servant leadership, not dominance, in His relationships with others (John 13). The need to dominate and the desire to be dominated are spiritually unhealthy. Even if some “innocent” or fun aspects of BDSM are allowable within the context of marriage, the vast majority of what takes place in BDSM is absolutely not Christian or Christ-like in any sense.
I can provide a link, but I don't think it would be good for some minds here to read what they do not understand and have not a clue about and think everything is love love love and little kittens
With that said, there are definitely dark aspects to BDSM in which a Christian should have no part. Receiving sexual pleasure through the giving or receiving of pain is not in agreement with what the Bible says about sex. Sex is to be an expression of love, affection, passion, gentleness, selflessness, and commitment. Sex is to be the literal/physical expression of a married couple being “one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). To bring pain, degradation, or humiliation into the sexual relationship distorts what it is supposed to be, even when it is consensual. The more extreme aspects of BDSM reek of Satanism/paganism and are definitively ungodly and perverted.
In regards to the BDSM subculture, the need to dominate and/or be dominated in a relationship, whether sexual or non-sexual, reveals a psyche in need of being redeemed by God through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ died to set us free from sin and its consequences (Luke 4:18; Galatians 5:1). Jesus Christ always demonstrated servant leadership, not dominance, in His relationships with others (John 13). The need to dominate and the desire to be dominated are spiritually unhealthy. Even if some “innocent” or fun aspects of BDSM are allowable within the context of marriage, the vast majority of what takes place in BDSM is absolutely not Christian or Christ-like in any sense.
I can provide a link, but I don't think it would be good for some minds here to read what they do not understand and have not a clue about and think everything is love love love and little kittens
T
I think i understand you woman of God. What men want from their wives is RESPECT which you have shown much.
Even Sarah called her husband Master or Lord (1Pet3.5-6). You are wise in doing so . Jesus is your Lord(ruler over all even your husband). Yet this same Jesus expects you to submit to your husband. I wish you were my wife or hope i can receive a wife from the lord like you . I will honour her much and loveher the more for her submission unto me as she would do it because of her Love for God . Blessed are you and blessed is your husband because of you. Most women will not understand what you are saying . Submission is not a bad thing it is unto the Lord Jesus Christ - for he said to submit as he instructs men to Love their wives. Men and Women are equals yet it is God who gave man the authority. God Bless. This is so surreal.
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