Legalism's Mistake: Confusing Cause & Effect (Sanctification)
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It is a long read, but you should check out this article I shared: http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...on-1-john-1-9-sin-confession.html#post2240057
Actually I think it was only 2 churches that were right in God's eye. The remainder were told to repent and change.
Repentance was once and continual. We repented from a life lived outside of God and renounce that which we did in our former lives that was contrary to God when we came to Him and died to self and were made a new creation. After salvation, we do repent when we sin. And He who is good and faithful, our one Mediator and Advocate is good to forgive
Repentance was once and continual. We repented from a life lived outside of God and renounce that which we did in our former lives that was contrary to God when we came to Him and died to self and were made a new creation. After salvation, we do repent when we sin. And He who is good and faithful, our one Mediator and Advocate is good to forgive
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Actually I think it was only 2 churches that were right in God's eye. The remainder were told to repent and change.
Repentance was once and continual. We repented from a life lived outside of God and renounce that which we did in our former lives that was contrary to God when we come to Him. After salvation, we do repent when we sin. And He who is good and faithful, our one Mediator and Advocate is good to forgive
Repentance was once and continual. We repented from a life lived outside of God and renounce that which we did in our former lives that was contrary to God when we come to Him. After salvation, we do repent when we sin. And He who is good and faithful, our one Mediator and Advocate is good to forgive
again, Why would I repent of the same sins over and over. When I already know they are sins
Don;t you think God would be offended by that?
Who said it was repenting for the same sins over and over? When we do that, we allow our cup of iniquity to fill up.
Repenting and turning from our sins is part of the Sanctification process which begins after Salvation/Justification. The end result being Glorification at the end of our race of faith.
So we speak of sins that come up in our lives after salvation that have not been repented of. God continually prunes us and cuts away things that are displeasing to Him. As we repent of our sins, He is good to forgive us and His mercy is anew every morning.
Repenting and turning from our sins is part of the Sanctification process which begins after Salvation/Justification. The end result being Glorification at the end of our race of faith.
So we speak of sins that come up in our lives after salvation that have not been repented of. God continually prunes us and cuts away things that are displeasing to Him. As we repent of our sins, He is good to forgive us and His mercy is anew every morning.
2 Corinthians 12:21 (KJV) And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 2:5 (KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 2:16 (KJV) Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 2:21 (KJV) And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 3:3 (KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 3:19 (KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Entire churches of christians were told to repent & you don't have to? Since when are you better than them?
[HR][/HR]Revelation 2:5 (KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 2:16 (KJV) Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 2:21 (KJV) And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 3:3 (KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
[HR][/HR]Revelation 3:19 (KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Entire churches of christians were told to repent & you don't have to? Since when are you better than them?
This is very correct , as a clear indicator of this we have the 7 churches in revelation that no man can disprove that some had to repent. It was not because they did not know the LORD but it was due that some were heading in a incorrect direction.
The Revelation Jesus gave to John to the seven church , clearly identifies them as God possession.
Revelation 1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
These people , Brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus knew clearly who was there Lord and savior. They were born again of God, but some of them clearly forgotten the purpose of being saved. Thee works that God ordained them to do. Look clearly how by examining them and the context we are given in scripture all seven churches God Almighty pointed out there works . 5 Churches were given a clear message to repent once more, and get right with God Almighty. Can no man disprove that.
Jesus clearly stated: If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Personally they all were smart to repent.
PS. If anyone is obsess with disputes on this truth, take it up with God Almighty , it His word simple as that.
Shalom
The Revelation Jesus gave to John to the seven church , clearly identifies them as God possession.
Revelation 1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
These people , Brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus knew clearly who was there Lord and savior. They were born again of God, but some of them clearly forgotten the purpose of being saved. Thee works that God ordained them to do. Look clearly how by examining them and the context we are given in scripture all seven churches God Almighty pointed out there works . 5 Churches were given a clear message to repent once more, and get right with God Almighty. Can no man disprove that.
Jesus clearly stated: If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Personally they all were smart to repent.
PS. If anyone is obsess with disputes on this truth, take it up with God Almighty , it His word simple as that.
Shalom
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This is very correct , as a clear indicator of this we have the 7 churches in revelation that no man can disprove that some had to repent. It was not because they did not know the LORD but it was due that some were heading in a incorrect direction.
The Revelation Jesus gave to John to the seven church , clearly identifies them as God possession.
Revelation 1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
These Churches, these people , Brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus knew clearly who was there Lord and Savior. They were born again of God, but some of them clearly forgotten the purpose of being saved. Thee works that God ordained them to do. Look clearly how by examining them and the context we are given in scripture all seven churches God Almighty pointed out there works . 5 Churches were given a clear message to repent once more, and get right with God Almighty. Can no man disprove that.
Jesus clearly stated: If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Personally or hopefully they (those that were not right with God) all were humble to repent.
PS. If anyone is obsess with disputes on this truth, take it up with God Almighty , it His word simple as that.
FIX
Shalom
The Revelation Jesus gave to John to the seven church , clearly identifies them as God possession.
Revelation 1:4-6 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
These Churches, these people , Brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus knew clearly who was there Lord and Savior. They were born again of God, but some of them clearly forgotten the purpose of being saved. Thee works that God ordained them to do. Look clearly how by examining them and the context we are given in scripture all seven churches God Almighty pointed out there works . 5 Churches were given a clear message to repent once more, and get right with God Almighty. Can no man disprove that.
Jesus clearly stated: If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Personally or hopefully they (those that were not right with God) all were humble to repent.
PS. If anyone is obsess with disputes on this truth, take it up with God Almighty , it His word simple as that.
FIX
Shalom
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Doesnt it say work out your salvation with fear and trembling....or the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom..
you refuse to adhear to scripture and sound doctrine...being dull of hearing and understanding...and the scripture or in some rare cases scriptures that you do you use are so chopped up and twisted out of context its sickening...i guess its why he said let the blind lead the blind...they both fall in the ditch...its amazing to watch scripture fulfilled out of your own mouths...and its against yourself...void of understanding...never truly having the revelation of christ who he is and why he came. and if your going to quote paul..who by the way was full of the holy ghost..really read what paul says about the fear of the Lord
you refuse to adhear to scripture and sound doctrine...being dull of hearing and understanding...and the scripture or in some rare cases scriptures that you do you use are so chopped up and twisted out of context its sickening...i guess its why he said let the blind lead the blind...they both fall in the ditch...its amazing to watch scripture fulfilled out of your own mouths...and its against yourself...void of understanding...never truly having the revelation of christ who he is and why he came. and if your going to quote paul..who by the way was full of the holy ghost..really read what paul says about the fear of the Lord
I was just curious to whether you have read the op yet:Obsession with Confession (1 John 1:9, sin confession) that BenFTW mentioned in post#102.