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so in the process of hugging your husband would you not touch him, so where is the big difference, When you hug you touch. you can nick pick on words if you want but my point was this is no error as you have laid charge to the word of God as having errors but these examples you have used are wrong not the Holy Word of God. I used to think of you as a intelligent young lady, but as you dive into this mission you have of proving that the word of God is wrong, and you don't even check what you post to see if it is right, you have read it somewhere and because it supports what you want to believe that the KJB is a translations full of errors then you bite into it and it lies, that is not using that other ugly organ ( brain) that God has blessed you with.......
oh so there is some atheist professionals who have said that there is no god . so wow it must be true there is no god , WRONG!!!!!!!! there is a God and the point is, not if the King James Bible has errors. the Point is the KJB was and still is the authorized word of God, the God inspired Word in the english language and you are attacking it, do you even know the History of the english Bible where that people were burnt at the stake so the we could have a true Holy Bible in our language, they gave all they had so that you could learn about God and you spit on their graves with all your post in here on this subject , you should to read the foxes book of martyrs, maybe you would then be a little more thankful for the King james Bible
could you show me where that i have ever said that God would not forgive His children for anything we do against Him, maybe you keep forgetting that I believe Once saved always saved, ?????????? the thing I don't understand is how those that claim to love God so much, are so willingly ready to tear down His Word, just to be able to say that I am just, even if I use a translation that does not always agree with the Authorized english Word of God.
No once again someone assumes something someone else has, I have stated before, I would have no problems with any translation that just takes out the thee's and thou's , ye's, but when it does not agree with the Bible that was THE BIBLE for almost 400 years now, that is when I have a problem with it. although I have not found one of the new modern (so called) Bibles that has not had some major doctrinal errors in them!!! but once again let me say that I have not studied all of them. so what I am saying is if you want to up date the language,so be it, but if we do, please keep in mind that this Is the WORD OF GOD, so if we do it, let's us do it right, by the Guidance Of the Holy Ghost, and if this is done then all Bibles should agree with each other!!! not cause confusion as we have now.
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With the verses and a dictionary is took you two hours. You are a pastor who handles the word of God skillfully. How would a member of your congregation fare? What about a new convert? What about a person seeking salvation? Over four hundred years the language has changed. It is not my language nor yours. This is no disrespect, this is reality.
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That is no longer true, not that it ever was entirely. The KJV does not reflect the majority. A case in point is the verse in I John, in which the vast majority of transcripts do noty say "there are three that witness in heave, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit." This does not make the KJV corrupt, not does it reflect negatively upon the translation. Just on the arguement against having a newer translation.
shame on you Dmurray, this is not about a person being right or wrong but rather the Holy Word of God being right or wrong, so if the KJB says :
2ti 3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
and other translations says :
2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16 (New American Standard Bible)
16(A)All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2 Timothy 3:16 (New King James Version)
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16 (New Living Translation)
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16 (The Message)
14-17But don't let it faze you. Stick with what you learned and believed, sure of the integrity of your teachers—why, you took in the sacred Scriptures with your mother's milk! There's nothing like the written Word of God for showing you the way to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. Every part of Scripture is God-breathed and useful one way or another—showing us truth, exposing our rebellion, correcting our mistakes, training us to live God's way. Through the Word we are put together and shaped up for the tasks God has for us.
then all these should agree with the other and if not then all can not be God inspired or God-breathed
2ti 3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
and other translations says :
2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16 (New American Standard Bible)
16(A)All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2 Timothy 3:16 (New King James Version)
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16 (New Living Translation)
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16 (The Message)
14-17But don't let it faze you. Stick with what you learned and believed, sure of the integrity of your teachers—why, you took in the sacred Scriptures with your mother's milk! There's nothing like the written Word of God for showing you the way to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. Every part of Scripture is God-breathed and useful one way or another—showing us truth, exposing our rebellion, correcting our mistakes, training us to live God's way. Through the Word we are put together and shaped up for the tasks God has for us.
then all these should agree with the other and if not then all can not be God inspired or God-breathed
ok so in your opinion, i am stupid, or I am weak, i could not take the solid two hours to focus on this test for it took me awhile trying to respond to others in here, to get to where you showed where there were in scritpures, i hope your pastor does not claim to know everything there is to know about scriptures , i hope he is still seeking knowledge , one of the verses that i have chosen to be my goal is in acts where the scribes said that they knew peter and John were unlearned men, but they could tell they had been around Jesus. so thank you for pointing out that I have achieved part of that verse already that i am unlearned. but I have checked several sources and none of them has said that a flagon is a raisin, and all the other words have more than one meaning i gave one and you gave another, does not make you right and me wrong or you wrong and me right, but look for governor i said captain of the ship you said pilot I updated the word because most folks put a pilot as one who flys not sails and you used the old meaning of the word, but I am wrong in doing so by up dating to clear it up , but we can up date the holy Word with corrupt text and that is ok with you......
this is not Bible but it is a true saying " God does not call the qualified but rather qualifies the called "
this is not Bible but it is a true saying " God does not call the qualified but rather qualifies the called "
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If it is translated that Jesus is the Son of God, that He came down and died for my sins so that I can be saved, and all that general idea- why would I care about a few words? This topic, to me, is the king of splitting fine hairs. If you're not sure about the verse (here's an idea!) ask......GOD? He wrote it.
You just don't grasp what we are saying do you? we are not saying that the kjb goes along with the majority of the translations printed today, But in the Days tHat the KJB the 1611 kjb was translated It was taken from The maunuscripts that were used 99% of the time, the MAJORITY of the Time, the manuscripts were used to translate to english in those days,was the one that the translators of the KJB used. We are not saying That the kjb fits in with the majority of bibles that we have today, that is our whole point of this debate, that it does not agree with the modern day bibles.. when we say manuscripts you must take it that we mean bible or something.
ok so in order for Jesus to be the one that died for you, that you might have life. He had to be the Perfect One. He had no sin! agree so far. ok let's look at what a few words can do or a lack of few words can do ..
Matthew 5:22 (King James Version)
22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:22 (New International Version)
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[a]will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,[b]' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Footnotes:
Matthew 5:22 (New International Version)
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[a]will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,[b]' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Footnotes:
4Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent. 5He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored.
the NIv just said that Jesus was subject to judgement, yeah a few words can mean or make a big difference, If Jesus sinned as the Niv said here then he was not the messaih. the one who could take away our sins, so what do you think now ????? now the Kjb still has Him without sin For he had cause to have anger at these doubtors, so one says that he sinned, one says that he is still perfect, there is a difference!!!!!!
Matthew 5:22 (King James Version)
22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:22 (New International Version)
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[a]will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,[b]' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Footnotes:
- Matthew 5:22 Some manuscripts brother without cause
- Matthew 5:22 An Aramaic term of contempt
Matthew 5:22 (New International Version)
22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[a]will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,[b]' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Footnotes:
- Matthew 5:22 Some manuscripts brother without cause
- Matthew 5:22 An Aramaic term of contempt
4Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent. 5He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored.
the NIv just said that Jesus was subject to judgement, yeah a few words can mean or make a big difference, If Jesus sinned as the Niv said here then he was not the messaih. the one who could take away our sins, so what do you think now ????? now the Kjb still has Him without sin For he had cause to have anger at these doubtors, so one says that he sinned, one says that he is still perfect, there is a difference!!!!!!
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well we certain know that the Bible speaks against being two-faced as you have showed yourself, please see the above post to Dread_Zeppelin, I think the main idea was changed and to you and dread this is not the only time many more with complete/ whole verses ommited the Blood left out and on and on.
