No. What is obvious is that everyone knows bearing false witness is a morally wrong thing to do. The christians, the pegans, even the Jews and Muslims.
It does not mean people do not willingly do it with no conscious moral sickening, Again (if you would read what I keep posting) Paul said they have hidden in their hearts what is sin, and thus God gave them over to a depraved mind,, They know its wrong, they know to do it causes them to be judged, BUT THEY DO NOT CARE..
Not the same to believe something is wrong as a non Christian, and to have conviction of sin before God in your most inward parts
WHAT? What does this have to do with knowing what sin is and who God is? Did you even read Romans 1? this is starting to get ridiculous.. Do you want to discuss this or not? Try to stick to the passage. Did paul lie or not??
Good attempt at bluffing, the law was not placed within the Israelites under the old covenant as it is the Christian under the new covenant
God did circumcise our heart. He cleansed us, We could not, Have not, and will never be able to cleanse ourselves. That has NOTHING to do with the law or anything else.
The written word states the law is placed within the christian
I already found Christ, Maybe you need to find him? thats why you want to be under a tutor still?
Lol, so you question now whether I am a Christian?
I do not know.. Thus us all I can fathom by what your saying. The law does not make me look to Christ anymore. All it can do is bring fear in my life, because it continually exposes who I am. I am not going to be very helpful to God if I am continuously living in fear (or worse yet, like the legalist who denys they live in fear, or water down the law and think they are good people and no longer worthy of condemnation?
Again you show you don't understand. Why would the law on your heart make you live in fear? There is no law of righteousness in place
God did not give me a spirit of fear whereby I am a slave, he gave me a spirit of adoption. Where I cry outr abba Father..
Agreed. Having the law in your most inward parts doesn't change that
I am going to be honest. Are you going to sit there and tell me a Christian needs to be continuously told that lieing is a sin? that coveting is a sin? That they need to be told all these things? Are you that forgetful you have to be reminded all the time?
I'll sit here and tell you if a Christian deliberately bears false witness the law on their heart will bring conviction of that fact. They wont be convicted they haven't loved, but that they have lied, proving my belief to be correct
Your not making any sense. Yes it is legalism when you do that. why? If you lie your condemned, so every time you lie, you are reminded you are condemned. So you have two choices. Deny you lied, or run from God who will judge you.
lol, I will put it in capitals for you. I AM NOT UNDER A LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. THE LAW BEING PLACED ON MY HEART DOES NOT PLACE ME UNDER A LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Do you need me to explain further, or do you understand?
Which is exactly what I have witnessed and see in legalistic doctrines and people
You are far too hung up about law. As soon as anyone mentions the word you blow a gasket
They are perfect. and they had a purpose. Paul said when Christ came, the purpose was fulfilled.
Paul said Christ was the end of the law unto righteousness. I believe him
Is it fulfilled in your life? or are you still following the thing which can never make you righteous (morally good) Which is it?? You want to follow the spirit or the law?
This is getting boring now. I have already answered this
So is saying we are still under law, just because you say it is on our heart does not make it any less rubbish.
Show me my post where I stated the Christian is under the law
The fact that you think, as a child of God. thinks a command which says do not lust, is going to get you to stop lusting You have more problems than anyone here can help you with.
Show me where I stated the above? Resorting to lying simply proves you have lost the argument
1. The command is not complete? What does God consider lusting to be? What are all possible conditions where I could be seen as falling in the sin of lust? I can not know this, and the command itself does not tell me this. So all it can possibly doe is cause me to give my OWN interpretation of what it means, and say I am not sinning, because I do not do this (which is exactly what Jesus claimed the pharisees did, and all legalists do)
The holy spirit convicts of sin through the law placed within you
2. You already know it is sin, You puff yourself up by saying you have to continually be reminded of it so you do not do it, which it will never stop you to begin with. (I grew up in your kind of legalism, so I know)
To be honesty, your statements strike of desperation. They really do. So how have I puffed myself up by saying the law is within me? Yeah, I grew up in heavy legalism too. If I even so much as had a fleeting impure thought as a youing teenager, shock horror came over me, I was petrified God would cast me into hell. You haven't got a monopoly of being brought up in legalism
if you want to be burdened by the law or puff yourself up as better than you are (which I am sure you do not do, because I have not seen it) thats up to you.. I say this as a brother, because I can see no other reason to continually place yourself under law.
You are not saying it as a brother. you lost the argument and want to redeem
yourself before others,l you are being led by pride in your words and calling me puffed up. I know no law of righteousness exists, Jesus died for all my sins, past, present and future. Your problem is you can never admit when you are wrong. I am not under the law, but I know how God wants me to live, sorry this offends you so much
Again, No command ever stopped a person from sinning.
Who said it did? Please state what I have actually written, you are putting too many lies into this post, again because you have lost the argument, it is all you are left with
ps. every conversation about law is rediculous. But we keep having them, why is that? (it tells me satan is involved, and it is a very important topic. )
I see, so because I know in my heart God does not want me to steal, lie, commit adultery etc satan is involved, he is leading me