Oh I know that freeNchrist every christian believes that..did you not know that? and yet its synergistic 
The neo-Gnostic spirit of New.Modern.Hyper Grace
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Phil, I see what you're trying to do but it just isn't the case. You want unity but such unity cannot be formed with blindfolds. There are two opposing positions and while some may yet profess to subscribe to grace they also throw in some self in order to form a mixture. Doing such nullifies both, and is detrimental to our process of sanctification.
Can you please define self in the context that you mentioned? No multi-paragraph explanations, please (especially filled with color HTML codes!). Just the facts.
(just in case you didn't know it, false teachers whose doctrines aren't under-girded by the truth need many words to sound believable. So you don't want to go there.)
(just in case you didn't know it, false teachers whose doctrines aren't under-girded by the truth need many words to sound believable. So you don't want to go there.)
K
Apostle Paul spoke a number of times in including self in the equation, he never once dismissed what he could now do because of the grace of God.
He said, "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."
Apostle Paul's epistles for the most part were directed at believers, not unbelievers, as he was addressing a number of issues of misconduct, bad behavior, and the non unity in the body.
He constantly mentioned how we can and can not walk in the faith !!!
He said, "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."
Apostle Paul's epistles for the most part were directed at believers, not unbelievers, as he was addressing a number of issues of misconduct, bad behavior, and the non unity in the body.
He constantly mentioned how we can and can not walk in the faith !!!
I think you know what I'm saying. Grow up.
If we want to put this into perspective...
Hebrews 5:12King James Version (KJV)
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
1 Corinthians 3:2King James Version (KJV)
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
You have gone from having dialogue with me to passive aggressively insulting me. I understand that its not pleasant to have someone inform you of your ignorance on a topic you profess to know so well but the proof is in the baby pudding. The baby jokes aren't passive nor aggressive btw, its referencing your character in these posts.
If we want to put this into perspective...
Hebrews 5:12King James Version (KJV)
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
1 Corinthians 3:2King James Version (KJV)
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
You have gone from having dialogue with me to passive aggressively insulting me. I understand that its not pleasant to have someone inform you of your ignorance on a topic you profess to know so well but the proof is in the baby pudding. The baby jokes aren't passive nor aggressive btw, its referencing your character in these posts.
S
A great video! Now THAT'S more like it.
If I'm ever blessed to get married, (yes, I'll say it),
her type is appealling. To me, anyway.
Not the character, so much, but the actress.
Joy of the Lord, quirky sense of humor, unique and peculiar.
'This could almost persuadest me to becometh a 'christian'. Lol'.
I've gotten so much negativity, cold-heartedness, being ignored,
and just general bad vibes, that it's rubbing off on me
and I've been becoming like that, too, and I don't like it.
Gonna try to stick with joy, full on grace from start to finish,
If that's what God allows and wants for me to grow in grace,
and in the knowledge of Jesus, and to help pull me from
gloom and depression that I've been prone to most of my life.
And maybe that's just for a season, but I've got to learn to
avoid the 'nattering nabobs of negativity', (love that phrase)
(and stop being one, too)! But if others feel a need to add to
Grace in order to keep from sinning, or falling into the trap of
some label like hyper-neo-nasty-gnostic-naughty-non-grace,
well, maybe that's how they think that God is dealing with THEM
for a season, til they get set free from whatever struggles
THEY'RE going thru. Hey, Whatever floats your boat!
Acts13--->
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren,
that through this man is preached unto you
the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified
FROM ALL THINGS, from which you
could not be justified by the law of Moses. 38,39
(Then they grew bold and said...),
'It was necessary that the word of God
should have been spoken to you:
but seeing you put it from you,
and judge yourselves unworthy of
everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles'. 46
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad,
and glorified the word of the Lord:
and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. 48
And the disciples were filled with joy,
and with the Holy Ghost. 52
If I'm ever blessed to get married, (yes, I'll say it),
her type is appealling. To me, anyway.
Not the character, so much, but the actress.
Joy of the Lord, quirky sense of humor, unique and peculiar.
'This could almost persuadest me to becometh a 'christian'. Lol'.
I've gotten so much negativity, cold-heartedness, being ignored,
and just general bad vibes, that it's rubbing off on me
and I've been becoming like that, too, and I don't like it.
Gonna try to stick with joy, full on grace from start to finish,
If that's what God allows and wants for me to grow in grace,
and in the knowledge of Jesus, and to help pull me from
gloom and depression that I've been prone to most of my life.
And maybe that's just for a season, but I've got to learn to
avoid the 'nattering nabobs of negativity', (love that phrase)
(and stop being one, too)! But if others feel a need to add to
Grace in order to keep from sinning, or falling into the trap of
some label like hyper-neo-nasty-gnostic-naughty-non-grace,
well, maybe that's how they think that God is dealing with THEM
for a season, til they get set free from whatever struggles
THEY'RE going thru. Hey, Whatever floats your boat!
Acts13--->
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren,
that through this man is preached unto you
the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified
FROM ALL THINGS, from which you
could not be justified by the law of Moses. 38,39
(Then they grew bold and said...),
'It was necessary that the word of God
should have been spoken to you:
but seeing you put it from you,
and judge yourselves unworthy of
everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles'. 46
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad,
and glorified the word of the Lord:
and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. 48
And the disciples were filled with joy,
and with the Holy Ghost. 52
I didn't say it wasn't. Yet there are two methods being used. One is a matter of the mind and the other is a matter of striving in the flesh. One identifies with who God says we are and the other tries to be the very thing God already calls you.
Some people are coming in agreement with God's word, renewing their minds, and transforming their walk while others are striving to be Christ-like and avoiding sin like the plague(confessing it for forgiveness, pointing it out in others in judgement and condemnation instead of exhorting, etc) not realizing they are dead to sin and Jesus has imputed His righteousness to them. Arguably the same goals but going about it differently. As has been said before, one leads to lasting change and the other temporal (until the next time they repent again and again).
Some people are coming in agreement with God's word, renewing their minds, and transforming their walk while others are striving to be Christ-like and avoiding sin like the plague(confessing it for forgiveness, pointing it out in others in judgement and condemnation instead of exhorting, etc) not realizing they are dead to sin and Jesus has imputed His righteousness to them. Arguably the same goals but going about it differently. As has been said before, one leads to lasting change and the other temporal (until the next time they repent again and again).