Are women allowed to Preach?

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didymos

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Ever heard a conservative female preacher? I guess not, because that would be a contradiction in itself. Ergo, if you hear a woman preach she's by definition a liberal. Btw, not that I never gave women preachers a chance -test all says the apostle- but the ones I did hear were awful without exception. Nothing misogynic about that, in fact I highly appreciate women, just not in the pulpit. True, there are awful males preachers too, but biblically speaking THATs still no reason to allow women to preach.
 
Grace777x70

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good one!...well now..."wooden" that be a good idea to let one of them fired up spirit-filled pants wearing women preach on the grace of Christ and His great love for us?
 
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didymos said:
Ever heard a conservative female preacher?
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Yes, my congregation has a couple of them. And when I hear one of them is on deck to preach, I am pleased, because I know the message will be solidly biblical and relevant.

I'm sorry that your experience has so coloured your perception. I hope you are still able to be open-minded enough to judge the message first, rather than the messenger. Even if she does wear pants. ;)
 
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didymos

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Dino246 said:
Yes, my congregation has a couple of them. And when I hear one of them is on deck to preach, I am pleased, because I know the message will be solidly biblical and relevant... ;)
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Oh well, who am I to judge anyway (James 3:1) :rolleyes:
 
Joidevivre

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Many years ago, the Lord told me to preach - teach - proclaim - comfort with - bring people to Jesus with the Word. And he told me to do this as much as possible with whomever he brought into my path.

And along that path were many men along with the women. In hospitals, hospice care, bible studies, conferences. I discovered that it is not the vessel, but the Word that does its work.
 
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By this same reasoning, humans are subject to animals, and animals to plants, according to the "order of creation". Is that what you are proposing?

Without a proper understanding of the context into which Paul was speaking, v. 13 is a non-sequitur to v. 12, as v. 15 is to v. 14. Logically, they do not follow.

"Usurp authority" is one possible translation of "authentein"; there are many, as Angela noted in a previous post. It probably is not the best choice, according to the context.
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Crazy reasoning, doesn't deserve a response.
 
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Joidevivre said:
Many years ago, the Lord told me to preach - teach - proclaim - comfort with - bring people to Jesus with the Word. And he told me to do this as much as possible with whomever he brought into my path.

And along that path were many men along with the women. In hospitals, hospice care, bible studies, conferences. I discovered that it is not the vessel, but the Word that does its work.
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But... you never headed a Church though, did you? That's the difference in what Paul was teaching, that in God's House the woman is not to usurp authority over the man. Christ's Church doesn't need Leftist Women's Liberation movements.
 
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jmo.....if God moves someone to give us a message....man or woman ...i'm gonna listen...don't really care if their
wearing pants or not...it's the message ....i have learned that if.. ya take your head out of your own way..
put your pride in your pocket ...God will even use a child to teach you...so much you will miss if you only listen to
part of Gods many messengers..i am witnessing to a young man right now...should i refuse to help him because i am
a woman...he seeks me out for my counsel...walks away thanking me for clearing things up....now there will be a time for him to seek out manly counsel...but there is a purpose to woman preachers...milk comes from a mother....and the milk of the Word should be delivered as such....pride....hmh...just always blocked my sight from God...peace no
 
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DP said:
Crazy reasoning, doesn't deserve a response.
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It's your reasoning; I merely took it to its logical conclusion.


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Christ's Church doesn't need Leftist Women's Liberation movements.
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...any more than it needs unfounded insults.


If you want to discuss Scripture, then let's do so. If you want to throw stones, you're in the wrong place.
 
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DP said:
But... you never headed a Church though, did you? That's the difference in what Paul was teaching, that in God's House the woman is not to usurp authority over the man. Christ's Church doesn't need Leftist Women's Liberation movements.
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A pulpit in a building does not make a church any more than just a few Christian people gathered together in another building or home.

So, I guess you could say there have been times when I have headed a church. As many women have done on this site. But I hate the word "headed". Because I consider we are all part of the body of Christ with different gifts. And if anything I would prefer the word "served" in a church.
 
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good one!...well now..."wooden" that be a good idea to let one of them fired up spirit-filled pants wearing women preach on the grace of Christ and His great love for us?
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A woman in the pulpit: 'liar, liar, pants on fire!' Judgement will be more severe for those who preach without license.(James 3:1)
 
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If we examine only what is in the Epistles, we get what Paul would allow.

It is important to read how Jesus spoke to women in the Old Testament also, not just the new. After all, He is the Word, and the Word begins with "In the beginning," right?
 
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In reality..there is no such thing as a "pulpit"..that's a man-made tradition...but id they did have their pants on fire and get burned off...that could save them from the wrath to come...lol

didymos said:
A woman in the pulpit: 'liar, liar, pants on fire!' Judgement will be more severe for those who preach without license.(James 3:1)
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Grace777x70 said:
In reality..there is no such thing as a "pulpit"..that's a man-made tradition...but id they did have their pants on fire and get burned off...that could save them from the wrath to come...lol
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Oh there are, they come in all forms and sizes. They're convenient places to preach from, nothing more, nothing less. The thing ITSELF isn't 'holy,' no matter how beautiful they are (but it would still be a shame if they burnt to a cinder) :)





 
Grace777x70

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Wow...I wonder what places are going to be like in heaven ...if we can build places like this?

didymos said:

Oh there are, they come in all forms and sizes. They're convenient places to preach from, nothing more, nothing less. The thing ITSELF isn't 'holy,' no matter how beautiful they are (but it would still be a shame if they burnt to a cinder) :)
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Grace777x70 said:
Wow...I wonder what places are going to be like in heaven ...if we can build places like this?
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Actually this is a pulpit in the New Church (Nieuwe Kerk) in Amsterdam (of all places)

 
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That church is on my "to see" list :)

Is there an "Oude kerk"?
 
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