Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

KenAllan · Apr 9, 2016

I was born and raised in the Catholic Church!

I know more about the Catholic Church then most Catholics do!

As for thousands being saved in the Catholic Church i find that very hard to believe. You cannot claim to be saved and at the same time serve Mary as your god!

Just look at Pope John Paul II who gave ALL credit to Mary for her helping him after he was shot! Not once did he ever thank God for what He had done. All glory was given to Mary!

Pope John Paul II will never be allowed to enter into Heaven because he worshiped Mary as his god!

Hatred is from the Catholics. Hatred is from the Popes of the Catholic Church.

I find it appalling when Catholics like you try to deceive the very elect into believing all those who pray to Mary are Christians!

ember · Apr 9, 2016

no...you go look at the Pope he has to answer to Jesus

Me? I'm gonna keep my eyes on JESUS....sorry you had a bad trip...but it's really all about our hearts

BTW? I'm not Catholic

see how you jump to contusions? thanks for proving what I say to be so

you should attempt a cleanse of that thar tude of yours

WebersHome · Apr 9, 2016

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Paul said that things written in the past, were written for our instruction
(Rom 15:4). Here's a case in point.

†. Gen 28:20-21 . . Jacob then made a vow, saying: If God remains with
me, if He protects me on this journey that I am making, and gives me bread
to eat and clothing to wear, and if I return safe to my father's house-- Yhvh
shall be my god.

What did Jacob say? Yhvh wasn't his god up to that point? Not necessarily. It
wasn't uncommon in those days for people to dabble in other gods right
along with Yhvh. The practice was later strictly forbidden by the first of the
Ten Commandments.

†. Ex 20:1-3 . . And God spoke all these words: I am Yhvh your god, who
brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other
gods in my sight.

"in my sight" is a combination of two Hebrew words that essentially refer to
Yhvh's competitors. In other words: it is not the God's wishes to have a
market share of His people's devotion; no, He'll settle for nothing less than
100%. (cf. Mark 12:28-30)

†. Ex 20:5 . . I, Yhvh thy God, am a jealous God

Webster's defines "jealous" as intolerant of rivalry and/or unfaithfulness.

Jacob's uncle Laban was notorious for polytheism. On the one hand, he
recognized Yhvh as a legitimate deity (Gen 24:50, Gen 31:29) while on the
other hand he harbored a collection of patron gods in his home (Gen 31:19,
Gen 31:30). In the ancient Semitic world; patron gods were equivalent to
Catholicism's patron saints-- objects of devotion; venerated as special
guardians, intercessors, protectors, and/or supporters; viz: alternate sources
of providence.

Jacob's vow reflects a personal decision of his own volition to make Yhvh the
sole source of his providence to the exclusion of all the other gods that
people commonly looked to in his day. So Gen 28:20-21 could be
paraphrased to read like this:

"If God remains with me, if He protects me on this journey that I am
making, and gives me bread to eat and clothing to wear, and if I return safe
to my father’s house-- Yhvh shall be my only patron."

So, although I didn't worship Jesus' mom and the patron saints during the
24 years I was a Catholic from infancy, nevertheless, I practiced polytheism
just like uncle Laban because of my devotion to God's competitors rather
than narrowing the field down to just the one benefactor like Jacob did.

Anyway; that was a very important milestone for Jacob; and it's a very tall
obstacle for John Q and Jane Doe pew warmer to overcome because most of
them feel far more comfortable looking to after-market providers such as
Christ's mom and departed saints rather than looking to God only.

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jaybird88 · Apr 9, 2016

ember said:

i agree with you. much hatred here but there is also haughtiness. the non Catholic churches have just as many issues as the Catholic. but they refuse to admit this, its so much easier to point the finger at the Catholics and say theres the bad guy. keep doing this long enough and it makes you feel much better about your own church.

AuntieAnt · Apr 9, 2016

And upon whom will God show mercy? I think that Jesus answered that question for us:

And Jesus spoke this parable to certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

“Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus to himself, ‘God, I thank you, that I am not as other men are, extortionists, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice weekly; I give tithes of all that I possess.’

And the publican, standing far off, would not even lift up so much as his eyes to heaven, but beat upon his chest, saying, ‘God be merciful to me a sinner.’

I tell you, this publican went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalts himself will be abased; and he that humbles himself will be exalted."
[Luke 18:9-14]

Based on the Lord’s nature of grace and mercy, I see hope for Teresa in Christ alone. God’s faithful,loving, merciful, mighty, forgiving, amazing grace does the impossible in spite of our doubt.

Proclaiming your obedience earns you good standing with God and someone else’s weakness earns them damnation is exactly what Jesus was talking about in Luke 18. They are Jesus' words, not my opinion.

Throwing stones at a woman who knew in her heart she did not deserve mercy by her own works is a very unwise thing to do.

Love is kind. Love believes all things. Love hopes all things. Love never fails.

ember · Apr 9, 2016

exactly AA...any single one of us can only state we have hope in Christ alone!

it's not that I agree with certain Catholic practices...but it's the practice of throwing stones that hurts!

4enlightment · Apr 9, 2016

KenAllan said:

Proverbs 28:9 If anyone turns a deaf ear to my instruction, even their prayers are detestable.

Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

1 Corinthians 14:38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.

Proverbs 15:29 The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.

Job 42:8 So now take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you, and I will accept his prayer and not deal with you according to your folly. You have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has.”

Hail Mary, full of grace.

The Lord is with thee.

Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,

pray for us sinners,

now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

If you are not for sure that you are clean enough for God to listen to, then you should depend on someone else that you know for a fact that He listened to. Some people doesn't know how to make an sincere request or plead to God, that some asked for brand new car with three naked women sitting in the back seat, and or make a plead to God to destroy all the Homosexual in the world. And so people need someone that has an immaculate heart, that will pray for you if you aren't for sure about yours. God has chosen Job because he had much love for his friends even though they tried to convicted him of doing something wrong.

Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

Proverbs 6:16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

AuntieAnt · Apr 9, 2016

“Two people went to the alter at church to pray; the one a self-righteous person, and the other an old nun. The self-righteous stood and prayed thus to him/herself, ‘God, I thank you, that I am not as other people are, con artists, criminals, perverts, or even as this Catholic nun. I attend church weekly; I tithe; I post scriptures on public forums.’

And the old nun, trembling and kneeling alone, was afraid to even think about facing God in heaven knowing her works couldn’t earn her salvation, but wrote in her journal her fearful doubts, ‘God, if you are real, please be merciful to me a worthless sinner.’

I tell you, this Catholic nun went down to her house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalts himself will be abased; and whoever humbles themselves will be exalted."

Dino246 · Apr 9, 2016

ember said:

I'm not sure if this was a typo or not, but either way, it's a great variation on the saying!

(PS: the common saying is, "jump to conclusions"; "contusions" are bruises.)

ember · Apr 9, 2016

no...that's what I say when someone jumps before knowing all the facts

you can use it....

I doozed it on porpoise

tourist · Apr 9, 2016

KenAllan said:

Jesus said to a small group once that there were others who were not of this fold and that He must gather them in also. Any works performed by a believer of Jesus is a manifestation of faith.

KenAllan · Apr 10, 2016

I tell you, the old nun was praying to Mary also which makes her an Idolater.

Everybody who asks, prays to, follows Mary is an Idolater who will never inherit the Kingdom of God.

This is the main problem today in the Catholic Church.

Second Catholicism teaches they have to work for their Salvation. They love to quote the book of James in defending that they have to do "Good Works" in receiving their Salvation.

What AuntieAnt said is a lie and is trying to deceive people into believing Catholics are Christians.

jaybird88 · Apr 10, 2016

KenAllan said:

good works not that!!!!! i seen some catholics the other day giving out food to those that were starving, it just makes me sick. those people and their good works!

tourist · Apr 10, 2016

KenAllan said:

I attended Catholic church for years and was taught that faith without works is dead. Any good works that you do are a result of the power of God working through you and are a direct manifestation of your faith. Faith is very much like a barometer as it is an indicator of how your spiritual life is progressing.

I had a Muslim friend once who acted more Christ-like than most Christians that I knew for her heart was in the right place.

What AuntieAnt wrote was true and not a lie.

WebersHome · Apr 10, 2016

tourist said:

It's also true that works without faith are dead.

†. Heb 11:6 . .Without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone
who comes to Him must believe that He exists.

By her own admissions, in private letters written to spiritual counselors;
Teresa was never quite sure there really is a God out there.

"I am told God loves me; and yet the reality of darkness & coldness &
emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul."

"The damned of Hell suffer eternal punishment because they experiment
with the loss of God. In my own soul, I feel the terrible pain of this loss. I
feel that God does not want me, that God is not God; and that He does not
really exist."

"If there be God-- please forgive me."

"When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting
emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my
very soul. How painful is this unknown pain-- I have no faith."

"The place of God in my soul is blank-- There is no God in me"

James said that belief in the existence of God is insufficient to save people.
Well; just imagine the chances of someone like Teresa being saved who,
behind the scenes, was never sure that there is a God and who, at times,
seriously doubted God even existed. Demons have a better chance than
people like that no matter how charitable and/or philanthropic they may
seem to the rest of us.

†. Heb 11:6 . .Without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone
who comes to Him must believe that He exists.

Webster's defines "impossible" as: incapable of being, or of occurring.

Webster's defines "must" as an indispensable item; viz: essential.

Can you appreciate the irony and the futility of bestowing sainthood upon
someone who, during virtually five decades of missionary service, failed to
please God?!! And if Teresa failed to please God; then she certainly failed to
please His son.

"I and my Father are one." (John 10:30 and John 17:22)

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ember · Apr 10, 2016

KenAllan said:

what's it like to be Jesus' little helper?

the main problem is minding everyone elses' business instead of getting out the mirror

let me help you out here.....you don't get to judge...

let's discuss the main problem in the Protestant church...just the denom, you know?

let's start with homosexuals being allowed to marry and be pastors...sounds like a prob to me

remember, not discussing Christians...what you do not seem to grasp, is that Protestants consist of far more than the minority actual Christian mindset

maybe we might start with defining idolatry as a concept rather than a statue, because....coffee time...we all make an idol out of something at sometime in our life

abcdef · Apr 10, 2016

I saw her just the other day,........she was at the burger barn with Elvis. Sorry, I just had to say it.

tourist · Apr 10, 2016

abcdef said:

Elvis was a big fan of hers as well. Ordering off the value menu wasn't necessary as they used their treasures in heaven.

AuntieAnt · Apr 10, 2016

AuntieAnt said:

KenAllan said:

Wowzers, that was quite a serious accusation. It made me review what I posted and after seeing that I had posted Jesus' very words, I realized it is Jesus you are accusing. I pray in the name of Christ the Lord that you come to know Him in reality in your own heart.

AuntieAnt · Apr 10, 2016

Oopsies! Gotta go! Father God won't let me strive in this thread anymore!

Peace, out!

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