When Is The Actual Sabbath?

[prove-all]

In many, many languages the name for Saturday is some forth of "Sabbath".
It has not changed

.

yes Below is a list of languages that indicate a seven day weekly cycle
with the seventh day as the Sabbath / Rest.

Shemitic
Hebrew Bible Yom Ha Shabbath or Day of the Sabbath
Hebrew (ancient and modern) Shabbath or Sabbath
Targum of Onkelos (Hebrew literature) Yom Shviaa or Day Seventh AND Sabbath or Sabbath
Kurdistan Jews (Targum dialect) Yoymet Shabbat Kodesh or Holy Sabbath Day
Ancient Syriac Shabbatho or Sabbath
Chaldee Syriac (Kurdistan; Urumia, Persia) Shapta or Sabbath
Samaritan (Nablas, Palestine) (use old Hebrew letters) Yoma Hasheviah or Day the Seventh AND Shabbath or Sabbath
Babylonian (Euphrates and Tigris Valleys, Mesopotamia) Sabatu or Sabbath
Assyrian (Euphrates & Tigris Valleys, Mesopotamia) Sabatu or Sabbath
Arabic (very old names) Shiyar or Chief or Rejoicing Day
Arabic (ancient and modern; W. Asia, E, W & N Africa) Assabt or The Sabbath
Maltese (Malta) Issibt or Sabbath
Tigre (Abyssinia) Sanbat or Sabbath
Amharic (Abyssinia) Sanbat or Sabbath
Falasha (Jews of Abyssinia) Yini Sanbat or The Sabbat

Hamitic
Coptic (Egypt; a dead language for 300 years) Pi Sabbaton or The Sabbath
Orma or Galla (south of Abyssinia) Zambada or Sabbath
Tamashek or Towarek (ancient Libyan or Numidian) Ahal Essabt or The Sabbath Day
Kabyle or Berber (Ancient Numidian; N Africa) Ghas or Sabbath Day
Hausa (Central Africa) Aseebatu or The Sabbath

Japhetic
Sanscrit (India) Shanivar or Saturn-day
Hindi (India) Shumiwar or Saturn-day
Pali (India) Sanivaro or Saturn-day
Urdu or Hindustani (Islamic and Hindu, India) Shamba or Sabbath; And Sanichar or Saturn
Pashto or Afghan (Afghanistan) Khali or Unemployed day; And Shamba or Holiday, Sabbath
Pahlavi or Pahlavi-Pazand (Ancient Persian) Kevan or Saturn; And Shambid or Fragrance
- The pleasantest day of the week; And Dies Sabbati or Sabbath
Persian (Persia; Modern Iran) Shambih or Holiday, Sabbath
Armenian (Armenia) Shapat or Sabbath
Kurdish (Kurdistan) Shamba or Sabbath
Brahuiky (Beluchistan) Awalihafta or First or Chief of the Seven; And Shambe or Sabbath

Tartaric
Mongolian (Sharra-Mongolian; Eastern Mongolia) Sanitear and Bemba or The Son of the Sun, Saturn
Kalmuk (Western Mongolia) Bembe Graku or Saturn Planet
Turkish (Osmanlian; Turkey) Yomessabt or Day the Sabbath
Lazen (Pashelik of Trebisond) Ssabatun or Sabbath

Monosyllabic
Chinese (Roman Catholic; earlier) Chanlitsi or Worship-day Seven
Mohammadan Chinese Saibitai or Sabbath
Annamite (Annam) Ngaythubay or Day in order Seven
Ancient Peguan (Pegu-Burma) T'pauh or (Day) Seven
Khassi (Cossyah Hills, East of Bengal) Ka sngi sait-jain or A day to wash clothes; Purification-day
Tibetan (Tibet) Za-pen pa or (Planet Seven)
Boutan (Little Tibet) Pen-pa or Eye of God=Saturn; AND Odsardunpa or Seventh Brilliant Star
Georgian (Caucasus) Shabati or Sabbath
Suanian (Caucasus)Ingouish (Caucasus) Sammtyn or Sabbath
Aware or Avar (Daghistan; Cis-Caucasus) Samat qo or Sabbath Day

Polynesian
Malayan (Sumatra) hari Sabtu or Day Sabbath
Javanese (Java) Saptoe (saptu) or Sabbath
Sunda (West Java) Saptu or Sabbath
Dayak (Borneo) Sabtu or Sabbath
Makssar (Southern Celebes and Salayer Islands) Sattu or Sabbath
Bugis (Celebes) Sattu or Sabbath
Malagassay (Madagascar) Alsabotsy or The Sabbath
Nuforian (NW New Guinea) Ras Fiek or Day Seven

African
Swahili (East Africa) Assabu or The Sabbath
Congo (West Africa) Satade or Saturday; AND Kiaosabulu or Sabbado: Sabbath
Isolated Languages?
Wolof (Sengambia, W Africa) Alere-asser or Last Day - Sabbath
Fulah (W Africa) Essibt or The Sabbath
Mandingo (South of Senegal, W Africa) Sibiti or Sabbath
Teda (Central Africa) Essebdu or The Sabbath
Bornu or Kanuri (Central Africa) Sibda or Sabbath
Fulfulde (Central Africa) Assebdu or Sabbath
Sonyal (Central Africa) Assebdu or Sabbath
Logone (Central Africa) Se-sibde or Sabbath
Wandals (Central Africa) Sidba or Sabbath
Bagrimma (Central Africa) Sibbedi or Sabbath
Maba (Central Africa) Sab. or Sabbath


Miscellaneous
Norman French (10th and 11th centuries) Seabedi, Samaday, Semadi or Sabbath Day
Ancient French (12 and 13th centuries) Samedi or Sabbath Day
D?oc. France (ancient and modern) Dissata, Dissate or Day Sabbath
Ecclesiastical Roman Sabatum
Parliamentary (British) Dies Sabbati
Basque (Spain and France) Larumbat or One Quarter (moon)
Finnish (Finland) Lauvantai or Corruptions of Icelandic Laugardagur
Estonian (Estonia) Lau-paaw or Bathday
Livonian (Baltic Russia) Puol-paava or Half Day
Lap (Laplanders, Norway) Lavardak or Corruption of Ice. Lang.
Morduin (Russia) Subbota, Suota or Sabbath
Tsheremissian (Russia) Kuks-keca or Dry-day (day without work)
Permian (Russia) Subota or Sabbath
Votiak (Russia)
Hungarian (Hungary) Szombat or Sabbath
Ostiac (Russia) Chotmetchatl or Sixth-day; AND Juolynchatl or Hinder end-day
Greek (Greece) (Sabbath)
Modern Greek (Greece) (Sabbath)
Latin (Italy) Sabbatum or Sabbath; AND Dies Saturni or Day of Saturn
Italian (Italy) Sabato or Sabbath
Spanish (Spain) Sabado or Sabbath
Portuguese (Portugal) Sabado or Sabbath
French (France) Samedi or Sabbath-day
Roman (Spain, Catalonia) Dissapte or Day-Sabbath
Wallachian (Romania or Wallachia) Sambata or Sabbath
Old High German (South Germany) Sambaztag or Sabbath's day
High German (Germany) Samstag or Sabbath's day
Icelandic (Iceland) Laugardagur or (of bath-day)
Swedish (Sweden) Lordag or Corruption of Icelandic Laugardagur
Danish (Denmark) Laverdag or Corruption of Icelandic Laugardagur
Old Slave (Bulgaria) Subbota or Sabbath
Russian (Russia) Subbota or Sabbath
Illyrian (Dalmatia, Serbia) Subota or Sabbath
New Slovenian (Illyrie in Austria) Sobota or Sabbath
Bulgarian (Bulgaria) Subbota or Sabbath
Polish (Poland) Sobota or Sabbath
Bohemian (Bohemia) Sobota or Sabbath
Lusatian (Saxony) Sobota or Sabbath
Polabic (borders of the Elbe) Subuta or Sabbath
Lithuanian (Lithuania) fubata or Sabbath
Prussian (Prussia; Germany) Sabatico or Sabbath
English Bible (England) The Seventh Day, The Sabbath

this could not have happened if there was no flood and no tower of Babel.
this should also prove the Sabbath day was known back then,then spread.

There is NO natural weekly cycle in nature that man can follow, or from the stars.
It is from creation week, when God placed his presence in it making it holy and known.

The scripture has no suggestion that the day has ever changed.
The Sabbath is the Lord's day, and Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.

For this reason [ I ] observe the Bible Sabbath rather than the Roman Sunday.

 

[FreeNChrist]

So basically we can pick our own sabbath day to worship on?

The Sabbath "day" was a day of rest. It was a precursor of the eternal rest that was to be made available in Christ Jesus, and which we now enjoy as Christ-ones.

 

[Depleted]

So basically we can pick our own sabbath day to worship on?

As in, you have days you don't worship?

You can pick any day to rest, but worship comes in rest, and worship comes on days we're not resting. And the day of rest ought to be once a week.

When I worked full time, we got all the housework and shopping done on Saturday to use Sunday as the Sabbath Rest.

Once we became disabled, we tried to pick a day to rest. (It couldn't be Tuesday, because that's trash night, couldn't be the day we went shopping, and couldn't be the day one or the other of us had a doctor's appointment, so we tried to be consistent, but doctors aren't worried about that. lol)

Once we realized we couldn't do six days of work at all, we cut our Sabbath Rest day to every six days, but you can see where that becomes a problem. Trash Day is still Tuesday! Doctor's appointments still come.

And now after the last five months, I just do it on the precious days I can do it. (Shopping today, trash day tomorrow, have to keep up with laundry, since John only has six shirts and they make him dress every day, dentist on Thursday, and my week just got too packed with normal stuff again. I'm hoping Wednesday.)

It sure beats 100 post on the origins of days of the week and "what we MUST do" guilt. I MUST rest; therefore I try hard to rest. An oxymoron, but isn't that life anymore?

 

[blue_ladybug]

​Does the bible specifically say that Saturday is the sabbath? God rested on the seventh day, but that could be ANY day of the week, for example, if he started creating on a Monday, then seven days later would be another Monday, wouldn't it?

Edit: Also, I know it says not to work on the sabbath, but does "work" include stuff like doing dishes, taking out trash, etc? Or does it mean not to work a 9-5 job on the sabbath?

 

[Depleted]

​Does the bible specifically say that Saturday is the sabbath? God rested on the seventh day, but that could be ANY day of the week, for example, if he started creating on a Monday, then seven days later would be another Monday, wouldn't it?

Edit: Also, I know it says not to work on the sabbath, but does "work" include stuff like doing dishes, taking out trash, etc? Or does it mean not to work a 9-5 job on the sabbath?

There is no Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday in the entire book! You're thinking tradition, not Bible. Tradition of man selected a day. Not Bible!

Way back when God sent one mammoth flock of birds to the folks in the wilderness, and even when he fluttered down a whole pile of fluffy bread like stuff that wasn't bread (manna) to those same 3 million people, he gave the understanding of what rest meant. The manna was going to show up six days a week. Pick up more than you need on any of those days and the rest rots! So for the five days they picked up, if they picked up a little extra for the next day, it was rotten the next day. EXCEPT once a week, they were to pick up enough for two days and it wouldn't rot the next day. All that so they can rest. God provides for us.

And then some of those dudes thought it be cool to go out of the camp on the Sabbath rest to get some more wood. They were killed instantly. God gave the command and the provisions to rest. He wasn't fooling around.

Got enough underwear to last you two days? Then you don't need to do laundry on your Sabbath rest. Got food sitting in your frig to be heated and eaten? Then you don't need a feast on your day off. Or have a feast, but prepare it the day before. Rest is rest. If you've ever done any work that makes you ache from the effort, you know what the opposite of that is. I completely and utterly trust you to get rest!

You are now free to rest one day a week without guilt you're not doing anything constructive, because you are. You're resting and that is God said, "Good!" Soak him in instead of soaking your dirty laundry.

 

[mailmandan]

do you have a bible verse that says sunday is now the Lords day?

The expression "the Lord's day" is found in Revelation 1:10. John relates the beginning of his visionary experience to being in the Spirit on the "Lord's Day." The particular "day" that belonged to Jesus seems to have been Sunday. According to the Gospels, Jesus was raised from the dead on "the first day of the week" (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2; Luke 24:1; John 20:1), that is, Sunday. New Testament evidence suggests that by the 50s, if not earlier, Christians were attaching special significance to Sunday.

In 1 Corinthians 16:1-3, Paul exhorts the church at Corinth to set aside a sum of money "on the first day of every week" for the church at Jerusalem, as the Galatian churches were already doing. Similarly, Luke notes that when Paul arrived at Troas near the end of his third missionary journey, the church gathered together to break bread "on the first day of the week" (Acts 20:6-7). To break bread (klasai arton). First aorist active infinitive of purpose of klaw. The language naturally bears the same meaning as in John 2:42, or the Lord's Supper. There is therefore good reason to believe that John has Sunday in mind when he mentions the "Lord's Day" in Revelation 1:10.

do you have a bible verse that says to commemorate His resurrection?

In Luke 22:19, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me."

Do you have a Bible verse UNDER THE NEW COVENANT that commands Christians to observe the Saturday/Jewish/Sabbath?

I agree with Paul - Colossians 2:16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

Are you a SDA?

 

[Grace777x70]

Amen mailmandan!..Today is the Sabbath rest. Tomorrow will be the Sabbath rest too when tomorrow becomes today...

 

[prove-all]

The expression "the Lord's day" is found in Revelation 1:10.
John relates the beginning of his visionary experience to being in the Spirit on
the "Lord's Day." The particular "day" that belonged to Jesus seems to have been Sunday.

that verse in no way inplys the fisrt day of the week is the lords day.
the bible says Jesus is [the Lord of the Sabbath], John was in a vision,
talking about [the day of the lord], soon comming to earth near you.
and nothing in the bible says it was sunday here .

Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath, how do you get [it seems] to be sunday.

According to the Gospels, Jesus was raised from the dead on "the first day of the week"

Christ died on the passover day, a holyday that changed weekday every year,
the year before or the year after passover would have been different days.

there is 8 places in the new testement that have (first day of the week)
lets see if [God changed the day] in any of them verses.

the first day of the week in verses Mt 28:1 ,Mr 16:2,Mr 16:9,Lu 24:1
none of the verses above changes the 7th day to 1st day,

it is not a day of worship, it was the first day people saw Jesus alive.
this was a normal work day for people, not a worship service.

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was (yet dark),
unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

John tells use that while it was (still dark), Mary found the tomb empty.
this was not a sunrise service at all, he was allready gone from there.

do you have a bible verse that says to celebrate Christs resurrection?
do you have a bible verse to celebrate at a sunrise service?

my bible says to honor his death, and the blood he shead

 

[prove-all]

In 1 Corinthians 16:1-3, Paul exhorts the church at Corinth to set aside a sum of money
"on the first day of every week" for the church at Jerusalem, as the Galatian churches
were already doing.

Money? What Was This COLLECTION on first day?

the eighth and last place where the term “first day of the week” occurs in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 16:2: “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you
lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him.…”

Often we see this text printed on the little offering envelopes in the pews of popular
churches, and we have been told that this text sets the first day of the week as the time
for taking up the church collection for the carrying on of God’s work, paying the minister, etc.

“Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia,
even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store,
as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.”

This speaks of a collection—but for whom—for what? Note it! Not for the preacher
—not for evangelism—but “the collection for the saints.” The poor saints at Jerusalem
were suffering from drought and famine. They needed, not money, but food.

Notice Paul had given similar instruction to other churches.
Now observe his instruction to the Romans:

“But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. For it hath pleased them
of Macedonia and Achaia [where the Corinthian church was located] to make a certain
contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.

When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit,
I will come by you into Spain” (Romans 15:25-28).

Ah! Did you catch it? It was not money, but fruit that was being sealed for shipment to
the poor saints at Jerusalem! (The Greek word can also refer to grain, wine, and other
produce which can be stored a long time without spoiling.)

Now turn back to 1 Corinthians 16. Paul is speaking concerning a collection for the saints.
Upon the first day of the week each one of them is instructed to do what? Look at it!
Does it say drop a coin in the collection plate at a church service? Not at all!

It says, “[L]et every one of you lay by him in STORE.” Note it! Lay by! Store up!
Store up by himself—at home! Not lay by at the church house—lay by him—at home.

Now why? “[T]hat there be no gatherings when I come.” Men gather fruit out of the orchard
—they gather vegetables out of the ground, to be stored up. But putting coins in a collection
plate at church, or handing in your tithe envelope could not be called a gathering,
but an offering or collection.

Notice further: “And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters,
them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. And if it be meet that I go also,
they [more than one] shall go with me” (verses 3-4).

Apparently it was going to require several men to carry this collection, gathered and stored up,
to Jerusalem. If it were tithe or offering for the minister or the spread of the gospel,
Paul could have carried the money alone.

the Bible where we find “the first day of the week” mentioned, it is a workday
—a day for gathering fruit and food out of the orchards and the fields and gardens,
and storing it up. It was to be the first labor of the week, hence the first day of the week,
as soon as the Sabbath was past!

 

[mailmandan]

that verse in no way inplys the fisrt day of the week is the lords day.
the bible says Jesus is [the Lord of the Sabbath], John was in a vision,
talking about [the day of the lord], soon comming to earth near you.
and nothing in the bible says it was sunday here .

Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath

You sound like a SDA. Are you a SDA?

 

[prove-all]

Similarly, Luke notes that when Paul arrived at Troas near the end of his third missionary journey,
the church gathered together to break bread "on the first day of the week" (Acts 20:6-7).

To break bread (klasai arton). First aorist active infinitive of purpose of klaw.
The language naturally bears the same meaning as in John 2:42, or the Lord's Supper.

There is therefore good reason to believe that John has Sunday in mind when he mentions the "Lord's Day"

What “Break Bread” Means

Acts 20- This text does not say, as many claim today, that the disciples always
held communion every first day of the week? Not at all!

In the first place, it says nothing about anything being done every first day of the week.
It relates the events of this one particular first day of the week, only.

It is not speaking of any customs, but of the events occurring as Paul and his companions
concluded their seven-day visit in passing by this town.

Jesus had introduced the “Lord’s Supper” as part of the Passover, at the beginning of
the annual “days of unleavened bread.” No longer need they kill lambs or eat the roasted
body of Passover lambs, after Christ, our Passover, had been once slain for us.

The Passover was ordained forever (Exodus 12:24).

At His last Passover supper, Jesus substituted the wine as the emblem of His blood,
instead of the blood of the slain lamb. He substituted the unleavened bread for
the roast body of the lamb as the symbol of His body, broken for us.

The disciples continued to observe the Passover annually, now in the form of
“the Lord’s Supper” using only the bread and wine, as a memorial (1Corinthians 11:24)
of Christ’s death (1Corinthians 11:26), showing His death till He comes again.

They continued to observe the Days of Unleavened Bread (Acts 20:6).

This year they had observed the Days of Unleavened Bread and the “Communion” service
at Philippi, after which they came to Troas in five days, where they remained seven days.

After the Sabbath day had ended, [at sunset], “upon the first day of the week…
the disciples came together to break bread.”

Paul was going to walk a long ways across the point in the morning to catch up,
some of his companions allready set sail around the point by sea, a work day.
he was going to be gone for awhile, hence last minute instructions before leaving.

People have assumed this expression to mean the taking of “Communion.”
But notice! Paul preached, and continued preaching until midnight.

They had no opportunity to stop and “break bread” until then. When Paul “therefore
was come up again”—after restoring the one who had fallen down from the third balcony
“and had broken bread, and eaten” Acts 20:11

Note it! “roken bread, and eaten.” This breaking bread was not Communion
—it was simply eating a meal. This expression was commonly used of old to designate
a meal. It still is used in that sense in parts of even the United States.

Notice Luke 22:16, where Jesus was introducing the Lord’s Supper, taking it with His disciples.
He said, “I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”

Yet, the day after His resurrection, after walking with the two disciples to Emmaus,
“..as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them”
(Luke 24:30). Here Jesus “brake bread,” but it was not the Lord’s Supper,
which He said He would not take again. It was a meal—“he sat at meat.”

Notice Acts 2:46. The disciples, “continuing daily with one accord in the temple,
and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness?.…”
Here again, “breaking bread” means eating a meal. Not on the first day of the week, but daily.

Again, when Paul was shipwrecked on the voyage to Rome, the sailors had been fasting out
of fright. But “Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day
that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing.

Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health?.… And when he had
thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he
had broken it, he began to eat” (Acts 27:33-35).

Here Paul broke bread to give to unconverted sailors who were hungry.

The truth is, nowhere in the Bible is the expression “breaking of bread,” or “to break bread,”
used to signify observance of “the Lord’s Supper.” In all these texts it means, simply,
eating a meal.So, when we read in Acts 20:7, 11, “the disciples came together to break bread,”

and how Paul had “broken bread, and eaten,” we know by Scripture interpretation
it referred only to eating food as a meal, not to a Communion service.



no bible proff that John has Sunday in mind when he mentions the "Lord's Day"
A good study on the phrase "the day of the Lord"might help.

 

[mailmandan]

What “Break Bread” Means

Acts 20- This text does not say, as many claim today, that the disciples always
held communion every first day of the week? Not at all!

In the first place, it says nothing about anything being done every first day of the week.
It relates the events of this one particular first day of the week, only.

It is not speaking of any customs, but of the events occurring as Paul and his companions
concluded their seven-day visit in passing by this town.

Jesus had introduced the “Lord’s Supper” as part of the Passover, at the beginning of
the annual “days of unleavened bread.” No longer need they kill lambs or eat the roasted
body of Passover lambs, after Christ, our Passover, had been once slain for us.

The Passover was ordained forever (Exodus 12:24).

At His last Passover supper, Jesus substituted the wine as the emblem of His blood,
instead of the blood of the slain lamb. He substituted the unleavened bread for
the roast body of the lamb as the symbol of His body, broken for us.

The disciples continued to observe the Passover annually, now in the form of
“the Lord’s Supper” using only the bread and wine, as a memorial (1Corinthians 11:24)
of Christ’s death (1Corinthians 11:26), showing His death till He comes again.

They continued to observe the Days of Unleavened Bread (Acts 20:6).

This year they had observed the Days of Unleavened Bread and the “Communion” service
at Philippi, after which they came to Troas in five days, where they remained seven days.

After the Sabbath day had ended, [at sunset], “upon the first day of the week…
the disciples came together to break bread.”

Paul was going to walk a long ways across the point in the morning to catch up,
some of his companions allready set sail around the point by sea, a work day.
he was going to be gone for awhile, hence last minute instructions before leaving.

People have assumed this expression to mean the taking of “Communion.”
But notice! Paul preached, and continued preaching until midnight.

They had no opportunity to stop and “break bread” until then. When Paul “therefore
was come up again”—after restoring the one who had fallen down from the third balcony
“and had broken bread, and eaten” Acts 20:11

Note it! “roken bread, and eaten.” This breaking bread was not Communion
—it was simply eating a meal. This expression was commonly used of old to designate
a meal. It still is used in that sense in parts of even the United States.

Notice Luke 22:16, where Jesus was introducing the Lord’s Supper, taking it with His disciples.
He said, “I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”

Yet, the day after His resurrection, after walking with the two disciples to Emmaus,
“..as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them”
(Luke 24:30). Here Jesus “brake bread,” but it was not the Lord’s Supper,
which He said He would not take again. It was a meal—“he sat at meat.”

Notice Acts 2:46. The disciples, “continuing daily with one accord in the temple,
and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness?.…”
Here again, “breaking bread” means eating a meal. Not on the first day of the week, but daily.

Again, when Paul was shipwrecked on the voyage to Rome, the sailors had been fasting out
of fright. But “Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day
that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing.

Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health?.… And when he had
thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he
had broken it, he began to eat” (Acts 27:33-35).

Here Paul broke bread to give to unconverted sailors who were hungry.

The truth is, nowhere in the Bible is the expression “breaking of bread,” or “to break bread,”
used to signify observance of “the Lord’s Supper.” In all these texts it means, simply,
eating a meal.So, when we read in Acts 20:7, 11, “the disciples came together to break bread,”

and how Paul had “broken bread, and eaten,” we know by Scripture interpretation
it referred only to eating food as a meal, not to a Communion service.



no bible proff that John has Sunday in mind when he mentions the "Lord's Day"
A good study on the phrase "the day of the Lord"might help.

Quit rambling and please answer my question. Are you a SDA? YES or NO.

 

[prove-all]

Quit rambling and please answer my question. Are you a SDA? YES or NO.

I was trying to answer each one of your comments in order,
but if you are so impaitent, no I am not a sda.

what I am is a bad speller and very poor grammer, please forgive me.
and sorry if you think bible verses about the truth is rambling

 

[mailmandan]

I was trying to answer each one of your comments in order,
but if you are so impaitent, no I am not a sda.

what I am is a bad speller and very poor grammer, please forgive me.
and sorry if you think bible verses about the truth is rambling

Thank you for answering my question. Bible verses is not rambling, but posting multiple paragraphs of arguments while avoiding answering a simple question is rambling.

 

[mailmandan]

Maybe you can answer my other question. Do you have a Bible verse "under the New Covenant" that commands Christians to keep the Saturday Jewish sabbath?

 

[prove-all]

Maybe you can answer my other question.
Do you have a Bible verse "under the New Covenant"
that commands Christians to keep the Saturday Jewish sabbath?

maybe we can go back and answer my first question about the lords day

do you have a bible verse that says sunday is now the Lords day?

your first paragraph on post #46 did not prove this,
as explained and answered on my post 48 and
no bible verse connects the lords day with sunday.

your second paragraph I explained the errors again,
in my post #49 and 51, all before my second cup of coffee.

do you have a bible verse that says to commemorate His resurrection?

you gave me in answer In Luke 22:19,
but this is done to commemorate [His death], not the resurrection,
and was part of passover and the days of unleavened bread.
in the old testement this was the night to be most remembered.


1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
Therefore let us keep the feast

so answer me this , what [feast] are they talking about here?

I am going to get me another cup of coffee,
will be back for your other questions..

 

[4enlightment]

What “Break Bread” Means

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It was sort of an ritual that they had practiced for making a peace treaty.

 

[mailmandan]

maybe we can go back and answer my first question about the lords day



your first paragraph on post #46 did not prove this,
as explained and answered on my post 48 and
no bible verse connects the lords day with sunday.

your second paragraph I explained the errors again,
in my post #49 and 51, all before my second cup of coffee.



you gave me in answer In Luke 22:19,
but this is done to commemorate [His death], not the resurrection,
and was part of passover and the days of unleavened bread.
in the old testement this was the night to be most remembered.


1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
Therefore let us keep the feast

so answer me this , what [feast] are they talking about here?

I am going to get me another cup of coffee,
will be back for your other questions..

Sounds like the same arguments I hear from SDA's. I'm not convinced by your arguments or impressed with your arrogance. Enjoy your coffee and have a nice day.

 

[garee]

The new Sabbath is on the first day of the week. Which the word week is not a word that derives from the word Sabbath but one that the paraphraser added to try and give it their own sense of understanding .

Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Dawning toward the first day of the week does not have any significance. It just means something will take place it does not establish when or what. It would be like me saying . In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the second day of the week Monday, or the third day of the week Tuesday (etc)

The word week was changed from or a new meaning attached to it the meaning of the word rest . Sabbath which simply means rest it would be more like I am offering below.

Mat 28:1 In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the new Sabbaths came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

The new Sabbath in respect to new creatures is when God said let there be light. The Old testament Sabbath which was fulfilled in Christ, it previously was on the sixth day . It would seem to the day he drove Adam and Eve out of the garden then rested as the rest we do have from our own labors so that we can have a day to bring the gospel into the word.

Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight

 

[prove-all]

Maybe you can answer my other question. Do you have a Bible verse "under the New Covenant" that commands Christians to keep the Saturday Jewish sabbath?

maybe you should show where the sabbath day has became unholy to God,
remember the sabbath day, and keep it holy



-no good standing with our Savior if you do not believe Moses and the prophets.

Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I
the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:"




not impressed with your arguments, with no bible verses attached.

If Paul taught against the law (which is not true) then he certainly wouldn't have worshiped
by believing those things written therein. Paul was not a deceiver by opposing his own beliefs
that he taught to others.

Acts 26:7 (KJV)
Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come.
For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews.

-here Paul says that his hope to come, is in the promises given to the twelve tribes.

Romans 9:4
4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants,
and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

-the promises and the covenants of God, all the sonship and the glory, belong to Israel

The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads;
and [let my name] be named on them,
and [the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac];
and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth”
-

1. Paul was a Pharisee. A teacher of God's law. He continued to
call himself a Pharisee even after joining the church.

(Acts 23:6) Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and the others Pharisees,
called out in the Sanhedrin, "My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees.
I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead."

2. Paul loved God's law. It was a delight to him.
(Romans 7:22) For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,

3. Paul called God's law holy. (Romans 7:12) So then, the law is holy,
and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.


4. Paul knew that breaking God's law is the very definition of sin.
(1 John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is the transgression of the law.


5. Paul said that we don't nullify the law of God by our faith in Jesus Christ.
(Romans 3:31) Do we nullify the law by this faith? By no means!
Rather we uphold the law.

6. Paul often read from the scriptures on the sabbath (which is kept by the apostles 84
times in the book of Acts). And the only scriptures at that time was the old testament.

(Acts 17:2) As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue,
and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures.

7. Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses when he first joined the church.
(Act 21:21) They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among
the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children
or live according to our customs.


8. These accusations were shown to be false.
(Acts 21:21) Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses,
so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth
in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law.


9. When Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses, he always denied this,
and said he does live according to the law.

(Acts 24:14) But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call
a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law
and written in the Prophets,


10. Paul said that those who refuse to submit to the law are "carnal minded"
and hostile to God.

(Romans 8:7-8) The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit
to God's law, nor can it do so. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.


11. Paul continued to travel to Jerusalem to celebrate God's feast days
after joining the church.(Acts 18:21)
But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh
in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.


12. Paul often quoted from Moses's writings, and cited it as authority.

(1 Corinthians 9:9-10) Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say
the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is
treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned? Surely he says this for us,
doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be
able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.

13. Paul claimed that ALL scripture is good for instruction in righteousness,
and given through inspiration of God. He never singled out Moses' writings.

(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness,


14. Paul mentions that the levitical priests are still offering sacrifices to God
even after Christ's death on the cross.

(Hebrews 8:3-4) Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices,
and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer.
If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests
who offer the gifts prescribed by the law.


15. The most well known teaching in Paul's letters is the one where he says
"you are not under law but under grace".

Millions of people quote this scripture, they almost always leave out the scripture
that immediately follows it. Watch what happens when you add the context....

(Romans 6:14-16) For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under
the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law
but under grace? By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to
someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey--whether you are
slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?


16. Paul told the Colossians not to let anyone judge them because they were observing
God's sabbaths and feasts because these appointed times are "a shadow of things to come".

Meaning they reveal future events, just like the passover foreshadowed Christ's
sacrifice on the cross.

(Colossians 2:16-17) Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink,
or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

17. Paul never repremanded anyone for obeying God's law. Instead, he repremanded
new gentile converts, the Galatians, who were trying to be justified by the law,
instead of faith in Jesus Christ.

(Galatians 2:16) Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith
in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by
faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one
will be justified.

18. The Galatians, who Paul was repremanding for trying to be justified by the law,
were going back to serving other gods after they were circumcised. This is why Paul
had to explain that the works of the law can't earn your salvation.
(Galatians 4: 8-11) Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those
who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God—or rather are known by God
—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish
to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months
and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

19. Paul understood that obedience to God's law is a natural result of salvation.
Once you become a true christian, God writes His law on your heart and mind,
and causes you to walk in them.

(Hebrews 10:16) "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,
says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."

20. Paul's letters come with a warning label attached to them.
(2 Peter 3:16-17) He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these
matters.His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant
and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you
may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.