Clearly sexual perversion runs rife through our social order, did not your other thread attempt to highlight this fact? Saying something is natural is not necessarily an attempt to justify it either, for we know that the natural man is enmity to God. We are all born perverted toward God. It is a spiritual condition, is it not? This perversion toward God manifests many ways, I would think. And yet homosexuality is not something that everyone "suffers" from, and could be genetically determined to an extent. Saying that is a possibility does not mean that other deviations are necessarily determined genetically, nor does it excuse sin. We are all prone to sin. Right? It is part and parcel of being human. To say that is not an attempt to justify sin any more than saying homosexuality could be genetically influenced is. Everyone is born with gender, and most have a sexual drive, which is pretty primal, and very much genetically determined.