Where did I say you were forcing abstinence? Why can you not respond to what I actually say? Look, I did not accuse you of the things you are accusing me of accusing you of. Get real. All along, I have said, IF you do or say this, then you are doing or saying that. If you (general you) say it is a sin to drink, you call Jesus a sinner. If you say it is a sin to overindulge, then you accuse Jesus of encouraging such. Meanwhile I tell you I stand on the side of abstinence and you respond by tell me to drink myself stupid if I want, and go on as if you totally missed that I am clean and sober even after months of talking to you about recovery. Yeah, bye to you.