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Matthew

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hmmm? I agree to certain extent but you cannot say that a girl draws all these conclusions because she's attractive to certain types of guys. That is just like me stating all men are the same.
I meant she has repeated bad dating experiences because of what qualities she is attracted too, that goes for men as well, and I also said it's only a part of the problem, obviously it's a broad situtation and other things are involved as well.
 
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setapart

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#22
You are wrong. There are immature people on both sides. I want a mature woman as much as you want a mature man.
miss interpreting what i am saying and arguing about it is immature. I'm not going to do that, this is just my opinion, but instead i will embrace your opinion, their are immature people period...

p.s. my reponse was in general to all replies, but it also suites your response to my original post. No disrespect. God bless you! I just wanted to get insight from others and their experiences.
 
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nanabean

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hmmm? I agree to certain extent but you cannot say that a girl draws all these conclusions because she's attractive to certain types of guys. That is just like me stating all men are the same.
I meant she has repeated bad dating experiences because of what qualities she is attracted too, that goes for men as well, and I also said it's only a part of the problem, obviously it's a broad situtation and other things are involved as well.
Also (and Matthew correct me if I am wrong here.... **I do hope I'm not wrong!**) I THINK Matthew is saying that SOME girls do this...not all?? So it really isn't "just like" you stating "all men are the same"
 
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Matthew

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Also (and Matthew correct me if I am wrong here.... **I do hope I'm not wrong!**) I THINK Matthew is saying that SOME girls do this...not all?? So it really isn't "just like" you stating "all men are the same"
Yeah you're right of course, no one standard can be applied to an entire gender, some people both male and female get a lot of grief in the dating world and seem to keep getting treated badly, some contribute to their own problems, but only some.
 
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setapart

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I meant she has repeated bad dating experiences because of what qualities she is attracted too, that goes for men as well, and I also said it's only a part of the problem, obviously it's a broad situtation and other things are involved as well.
ok i can see that, thanks for post! i'm not trying to start a i hate males group lol i just wanted to get opinions on other people that have felt this way or do. I want to know what sets a good guy apart from the bunch. If guys are different than how can you point one out? i know that's abroad question, you dont have to answer. God bless! thanks once again for your insight. many woman feel this way, not because we love to label guys but because in our lives it can have been proven correct.
 

zeroturbulence

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what do u get when u fall in love,
you just get a pin to burst your bubble,
tahts what you get for all your troubles,
i'll never fall in love again.

What do you get when you kiss a guy?
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia
After you do, he'll never phone ya
I'll never fall in love again
Dontcha know I'll never fall in love again

Don't tell me what it's all about
'Cause I've been there and I'm glad I'm out
Out of those chains, those chains that bind you
That is why I'm here to remind you

What do you get when you fall in love?
You only get lies and pain and sorrow
So far at least until tomorrow
I'll never fall in love a- gain
No, no, I'll never fall in love again
 
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setapart

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what do u get when u fall in love,
you just get a pin to burst your bubble,
tahts what you get for all your troubles,
i'll never fall in love again.

What do you get when you kiss a guy?
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia
After you do, he'll never phone ya
I'll never fall in love again
Dontcha know I'll never fall in love again

Don't tell me what it's all about
'Cause I've been there and I'm glad I'm out
Out of those chains, those chains that bind you
That is why I'm here to remind you

What do you get when you fall in love?
You only get lies and pain and sorrow
So far at least until tomorrow
I'll never fall in love a- gain
No, no, I'll never fall in love again
nice poem a little depressing, i do hope to one day fall inlove.
 

zeroturbulence

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... How can you tell when a guy is honest and truthful? A man after God's heart. How can i tell if he is being real and not playing his game? How can i tell that he wants to get to know me because i have a brain and finds me amazing than just interested in me physically. I have seen it all, guys that are sweet and only focus on God to get my attention and then out of knowhere turn out to be players. any advice?
Watch a touching movie with him and see if he cries.

by the way that was a very popular old song sung by dionne warwick
 
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setapart

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Watch a touching movie with him and see if he cries.

by the way that was a very popular old song sung by dionne warwick

that's really funny! lol so was your poem. thanks! when i think about it i dont think i have seen a man cry while they watch a movie, well except when we saw the passion of the chirst which i feel does not count since its a powerful movie. God bless!
 

zeroturbulence

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some guys do cry during movies and they are the ones with the big hearts that will not try to lower you and will appreciate you for your inner beauty because they appreciate the true person and are not just looking for a good time.

..and youre welcome :)
 

DinoDillinger

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are they all the same?

well...

There is none good, no not one.
 

Sharp

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I just went through a phase thinking all men are the same. Which i must be honest, my mentality has not changed. Everytime i am sorrounded by guys they tend to prove me right. Christians and none christians. It's gotten to the point i dispise all guys that even look at me and approach me. It's true young and old guys do have the same level of maturity. I dont mean to insult anyone but that's what it seems like. although, yesterday i started believing that their are special guys out there. I might not have met him yet but it made me happy to think that their is hope. How can you tell when a guy is honest and truthful? A man after God's heart. How can i tell if he is being real and not playing his game? How can i tell that he wants to get to know me because i have a brain and finds me amazing than just interested in me physically. I have seen it all, guys that are sweet and only focus on God to get my attention and then out of knowhere turn out to be players. any advice?

I also wanted to say i love my freedom, i feel like a bird that can't be stopped. I love moving when i please and how i please. I enjoy going out and helping people, nature and music. I'm kind of a free spirit, i dont know if i can commit. Most guys i meet want to tie me down, which automatically turns me off. They want me to lower myself so they can feel powerful; trying to change me to their liking, but i can't it is not that i think i am better, i just love being free.
Setapart

I have to say, if you keep being fooled by 'players' who try to convince you they are good Christian men, then you must be a very poor judge of character.

Also, what situations are you putting yourself in that you would attract these kinds of men?

You seem to be willing to get involved with both Christians and non-Christians. That's your first mistake.

You say you're a free spirit and that you don't want to commit to anyone. That's your second mistake. What are you doing complaining about the quality of men if you don't even want one.

By even associating with the men that you seem to think deceive you by their fake personas, you are sending a message to the good Christian men that the kind of man you wish to associate with is a player. Your third mistake is naivety.

I agree, most men are pathetic. But I don't think you're doing yourself any favours in trying to attract a decent one.
 
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BellaFlor

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#34
what do u get when u fall in love,
you just get a pin to burst your bubble,
tahts what you get for all your troubles,
i'll never fall in love again.

What do you get when you kiss a guy?
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia
After you do, he'll never phone ya
I'll never fall in love again
Dontcha know I'll never fall in love again

Don't tell me what it's all about
'Cause I've been there and I'm glad I'm out
Out of those chains, those chains that bind you
That is why I'm here to remind you

What do you get when you fall in love?
You only get lies and pain and sorrow
So far at least until tomorrow
I'll never fall in love a- gain
No, no, I'll never fall in love again
Lol! This is what most couples experience especially when going their own way instead of God's, and they don't want to be in love but also being reasonable at the same time. Some says you can't be in love and being reasonable at the same time, I say it is possible, as long as you have God as your focuse and pray for His Wisdom to discern between what is good or not. Still, it doesn't means that we might never get disappointed in our relationships at times. ;) :)
 
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BellaFlor

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ok i can see that, thanks for post! i'm not trying to start a i hate males group lol i just wanted to get opinions on other people that have felt this way or do. I want to know what sets a good guy apart from the bunch. If guys are different than how can you point one out? i know that's abroad question, you dont have to answer. God bless! thanks once again for your insight. many woman feel this way, not because we love to label guys but because in our lives it can have been proven correct.
With God's Wisdom, through prayer, and seeing it on their fruits you can point out who are living a life with Christ, and who really wants to live God's way. But now, God can also lead you to someone that might have fallen off from God, and that finds Him again through you. Everything depending on which plans He has for you, and with who He wants you to be with. And now, you are also still very young, so perhaps God wants you to do others things for Him before meeting your future husband as well? Or perhaps your future husband isn't ready yet with meeting you? He might be making you both more ready for each others. ;) :)
 
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Kaitlin

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#36
I didn't read all posts, but just don't ever ever ever change to please a man! If he is not pleased with you as you are, he is not worth to be with you :)
 
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nanabean

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I didn't read all posts, but just don't ever ever ever change to please a man! If he is not pleased with you as you are, he is not worth to be with you :)
Amen.....also, never think going into a relationship that you can change them either! If you are not pleased with who they are.time to move on and let them move on as well.
 
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setapart

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Setapart

I have to say, if you keep being fooled by 'players' who try to convince you they are good Christian men, then you must be a very poor judge of character.

Also, what situations are you putting yourself in that you would attract these kinds of men?

You seem to be willing to get involved with both Christians and non-Christians. That's your first mistake.

You say you're a free spirit and that you don't want to commit to anyone. That's your second mistake. What are you doing complaining about the quality of men if you don't even want one.

By even associating with the men that you seem to think deceive you by their fake personas, you are sending a message to the good Christian men that the kind of man you wish to associate with is a player. Your third mistake is naivety.

I agree, most men are pathetic. But I don't think you're doing yourself any favours in trying to attract a decent one.
I think it is ridiculous that you make these assumptions of me without even knowing me. first of all i am not the type of girl that dates around actually let me restate; i don't date at all which pisses a lots of guys as it is, they think i think im too good for anyone. I can see a player coming before most people, which many guys hate that quality since i burn their game without it even starting. I can see how you judged me instead of giving advice. I saw your profile and i was right you're a male, which justifies you getting defensive instead of understanding. many girls get hurt all the time and you saying it's pretty much cause they are stupid is a manly stupid response. I am never interested in non christian guys, but i know many and most christian guys have many things in common that they should not. their is on characteristic in a guy that makes me fall for him, only one without this i am not attracted to him, that is that he loves God more than anything. I love it when a guy speaks about God as if he were more important than anything he cared for. I love it when he shares his passion for God without caring what others think. I admire a man that lives for God and puts his selfish needs aside. How many guys do you know like this??????? exactly not many. they are rare and hard to find, but those are the only guys i ever consider dating. the last guy i was talking to possesed all these characteristics, my defense was down and he turned out to be a player, i was shocked and so was everone, no one saw it coming, to the point that my guy friends wanted to beat him, but i just dumped him, i didn't want him to justify himself, i didn't want to hear it, he had broken my heart and i fell for an idiot. anyways, as for me being a free spirit and not wanting to settle you're right guys like you make me realize that i don't want anyone. i rather end alone than with someone that holds me down because he is insecure of himself, but if i ever meet the right guy i will give my freedom away for him, but i know that if he truly loves me then he won't allow me. i am a dreamer and i want to marry a dreamer not someone that lives in fear. before judging someone you should know them. you just proved my theory right about guys!
 

QuestionTime

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I just went through a phase thinking all men are the same. Which i must be honest, my mentality has not changed. Everytime i am sorrounded by guys they tend to prove me right. Christians and none christians. It's gotten to the point i dispise all guys that even look at me and approach me. It's true young and old guys do have the same level of maturity. I dont mean to insult anyone but that's what it seems like. although, yesterday i started believing that their are special guys out there. I might not have met him yet but it made me happy to think that their is hope. How can you tell when a guy is honest and truthful? A man after God's heart. How can i tell if he is being real and not playing his game? How can i tell that he wants to get to know me because i have a brain and finds me amazing than just interested in me physically. I have seen it all, guys that are sweet and only focus on God to get my attention and then out of knowhere turn out to be players. any advice?
I had an amazing revelation from God yesterday. I was beaten down and depressed and useless. I had no energy at all. Satan was whispering in my ear telling me to reject God and telling me to call myself his slave. But in the midst of all that struggle, a thought came to mind: Pray and ask God to show me what Christianity really means.

Within a few minutes the burden was off my shoulder and God showed to me, that Christianity is knowing God and loving God.


John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Everything else is vanity. Everything. Food is vanity, clothing is vanity, people are vanity, the air we breathe is vanity, finding a husband/wife is vanity. The only thing that matters is knowing and loving God. Once we know and love God, what He chooses to add on top is only blessing upon blessing. If He chooses a mate for us we will be able to love them properly, because we won't love the creation more than the creator.

Rom 1:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Quest
 
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Matthew

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as for me being a free spirit and not wanting to settle you're right guys like you make me realize that i don't want anyone. i rather end alone than with someone that holds me down because he is insecure of himself, but if i ever meet the right guy i will give my freedom away for him, but i know that if he truly loves me then he won't allow me. i am a dreamer and i want to marry a dreamer not someone that lives in fear. before judging someone you should know them. you just proved my theory right about guys!
Sorry to hear about your bad experience :( we aren't all like that.

I think your experience is a good advert for the idea that a serious relationship is often best started from a point of friendship, beginning at the stage of a romantic interest means certain things will become an issue quite quickly and sometimes people's own character can fail them, it doesn't always mean they are a player but sometimes it's just that they went too far too fast and got overtaken by their desire and emotion....and we're all guilty of that at times especially when we feel a strong attraction to another person.

If your friends first even just for a short time you can be more trusting that the sincerity they display is genuine and even when they make mistakes you can be sure they didn't have an aganda from the start.

I think this would be good for you because if you are enjoying your freedom right now then keep doing so and just see what your friendships with men turn into, and if they turn into nothing more then at least you will have those solid relationships in your life when you do find something more.