Here is another one that has this made up "disassociated identity" thing. The apostle Paul had this "disorder" real bad....![Roll eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Romans 8:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
Romans 8:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
Romans 7 shows the two conflicts that are going on in a believer. One is not the real them ( not their true nature ) - not who they really are in Christ.
The flesh even though it stems from the corrupted Adamic influence in the world is now not the real us who are in Christ.
The flesh and the law of sin in our body - it wages war against the real us in Christ.
The flesh is ways to think and act that "were" the manner of living we had when we were in Adam but now are left over the old man died on the cross with Christ. ( Eph 4:22 - in reference to your former manner of living )
Romans 7:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So now, no longer am I ( the new man ) the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me (in my body which has the flesh with the power of sin in it ).
[SUP]18[/SUP] For I know that nothing good dwells in me (my body which has the flesh in it ), that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me ( in my new man ), but the doing of the good is not.
Romans 7:20-23 (NASB)
[SUP]20[/SUP] But if I am doing the very thing I ( new man) do not want, I( new man ) am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me ( in the flesh).
[SUP]21[/SUP] I find then the principle that evil is present in me (new man ), the one who wants to do good.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, ( new man),
[SUP]23 [/SUP] but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.
italics = my words
Then Romans chapter 8 comes in and shows us how to walk according to the Spirit and not the flesh to put to death the deeds of the body ( flesh in the body ). Rom 8:13
We do not have 2 identities within ourselves ( the flesh and the law of sin do not belong to our new nature which in Christ. ). Jesus said " A house divided will not stand."
We do not have "2 selves" we have the true self in Christ and we still have the flesh. Even though the flesh manifests "itself" with "it's" lusts through our bodies - it is not the real us in Christ.
We are still responsible for the deeds done in the body as they will affect our life here on this earth. Sin is destructive and will destroy us and those around us if we don't walk by the spirit - our true selves in Christ.
We can still sin in the flesh by doing the works of the flesh but this does not affect the inner man in Christ who has been created in righteousness and holiness.
We need to keep our eyes and Jesus and we are dependent on His life and grace to teach us and transform us outwardly to reflect in our behavior who we already are in our spirit.
As long as we are on this earth and in this body we will have to contend with the world, the flesh and the devil and none of these are the real us that are in Christ.
We are not of the world, nor the flesh, nor the devil.
The good news is that our Lord Jesus Christ has defeated all 3 of them and now we just need to walk in the truth of this! The renewing of our minds to the new creation realities in Christ are paramount into growing up in Him.
Romans 8:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
Romans 8:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
Romans 7 shows the two conflicts that are going on in a believer. One is not the real them ( not their true nature ) - not who they really are in Christ.
The flesh even though it stems from the corrupted Adamic influence in the world is now not the real us who are in Christ.
The flesh and the law of sin in our body - it wages war against the real us in Christ.
The flesh is ways to think and act that "were" the manner of living we had when we were in Adam but now are left over the old man died on the cross with Christ. ( Eph 4:22 - in reference to your former manner of living )
Romans 7:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So now, no longer am I ( the new man ) the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me (in my body which has the flesh with the power of sin in it ).
[SUP]18[/SUP] For I know that nothing good dwells in me (my body which has the flesh in it ), that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me ( in my new man ), but the doing of the good is not.
Romans 7:20-23 (NASB)
[SUP]20[/SUP] But if I am doing the very thing I ( new man) do not want, I( new man ) am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me ( in the flesh).
[SUP]21[/SUP] I find then the principle that evil is present in me (new man ), the one who wants to do good.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, ( new man),
[SUP]23 [/SUP] but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.
italics = my words
Then Romans chapter 8 comes in and shows us how to walk according to the Spirit and not the flesh to put to death the deeds of the body ( flesh in the body ). Rom 8:13
We do not have 2 identities within ourselves ( the flesh and the law of sin do not belong to our new nature which in Christ. ). Jesus said " A house divided will not stand."
We do not have "2 selves" we have the true self in Christ and we still have the flesh. Even though the flesh manifests "itself" with "it's" lusts through our bodies - it is not the real us in Christ.
We are still responsible for the deeds done in the body as they will affect our life here on this earth. Sin is destructive and will destroy us and those around us if we don't walk by the spirit - our true selves in Christ.
We can still sin in the flesh by doing the works of the flesh but this does not affect the inner man in Christ who has been created in righteousness and holiness.
We need to keep our eyes and Jesus and we are dependent on His life and grace to teach us and transform us outwardly to reflect in our behavior who we already are in our spirit.
As long as we are on this earth and in this body we will have to contend with the world, the flesh and the devil and none of these are the real us that are in Christ.
We are not of the world, nor the flesh, nor the devil.
The good news is that our Lord Jesus Christ has defeated all 3 of them and now we just need to walk in the truth of this! The renewing of our minds to the new creation realities in Christ are paramount into growing up in Him.