Hell or no hell

[Oncefallen]

One problem to keep in mind is that Gehenna is a very beautiful park where children play and families have picnics. I haven't been there, but I have seen many photographs. Jesus was explaining a contemptible and despised concept, not a location.

The actual geographical location of the historical Gehenna (Valley of Hinnom) is debated. It is the location that in the OT a couple of pagan kings of Israel made sacrifices to idols, and at the time of Christ apparently was the garbage dump of Jerusalem thus the fire never going out.......non stop trash being dumped on.

 

[DavidvanHolten]

Why would we as Christians worry if there is a hell or not?

 

[Blain]

The bible speaks of hell many times and to claim it was translated wrong makes the rest of the bible invalid if one part of the bible is wrong who is to say the rest isn't? Is the bible truth as everyone claims it to be or is it only part truth? Mans understanding of the bible may make it appear to be wrong or contradict itself but either the bible is 100% truth or it is 100% false there is no in between.

The main thing argued about hell isn't if it's real or not but rather if it's eternal and believe me I wish it wasn't but I have been to hell before and i am a witness of what is there

 

[DiscipleDave]

LUKE 16 and believe the words of JESUS........

Quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, flies like a duck, 99.9% its a duck.

Luke 16 is a chapter in the middle of all the Parables of Jesus. But this generation will take one parable out of all those parables and say and teach that it is real and not a parable. Sounds like a parable, looks like a parable, reads like a parable, said in the midst of all the other parables, 99.9% its a parable.

What? Do you actual think. that Abraham is the Father in Heaven? as the PARABLE says? The mere fact that it refers to Abraham as being the Father in Heaven, should reveal that it is a parable. But no not this generation, they use this Parable to back up what they believe to be TRUE, and say and teach that it is NOT a parable, again Changing the Word of God to fit into their own doctrines that they believe.

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DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

I always believed that life is just a test.

Those that pass are allowed into God's Kingdom those that fail go to hell.

I guess that I'm what people call a "hellfire and brimstone" Christian because I don't believe in what most Christians believe about forgiveness.

The prevalent belief seems to be that EVERYONE gets to repent then go to Heaven no matter how they live or what they do.some sects even send people to death row to hear confessions so even if you rape and kill hundreds of children you still get in as long as you admit and apologize afterwards which just doesn't make sense to me.

Forgiveness is granted to anyone who TRULY REPENTS. What this generation doesn't understand though, is if you are TRULY sorry for a particular sin that you commit, then you no longer continue to commit that sin ever again.

This generation is like unto a husband who comes home and beats his wife, afterwards he repents and says he is sorry. The next night he comes home and beats his wife, and again repents of it, and says he is sorry afterwards. Again the next night, he gets off work and comes home and beats his wife, afterwards again he repents of it. This he does EVERY night, and every night repents. And because he got Saved, and accepted Jesus as His Savior and Lord, he is forgiven of his sins, so he thinks. Forgiveness is only granted to those who TRULY are sorry. If that husband was TRULY Sorry for beating his wife, he would cease to ever do it again. ONLY then is forgiveness granted.

Now apply that same analogy to YOUR life, those who continue to live in sin.

This generation is like unto a person who comes home and ____________, afterwards they repent and say they are sorry. The next night that person comes home and _____________, and again repents of it, and says they are sorry afterwards. Again the next night, the person gets off work and comes home and ___________, afterwards again repents of it. This they do EVERY night, and every night they repent of it. And because they got Saved, and accepted Jesus as Savior and Lord, they are forgiven of those sins, so they think. Forgiveness is only granted to those who TRULY are sorry. If that person was TRULY Sorry for __________, they would cease to ever do it again. ONLY then is forgiveness granted. (Please fill in the blank with whatever sin that you do continually and think you can't cease from)

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DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

The eternal Lake of fire is clearly revealed in the Bible and it's eternal nature is also clearly revealed..

Those who believe otherwise have been deceived..

It is clearly revealed in the Bible that satan and his followers will be cast into the Lake of fire for ever and ever. This is a future event. This thread, i believe is referring to if there is a Hell right now, existing today. And it is NOT clearly revealed that the Lake of Fire is existing TODAY.

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DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

As of right now, there is no Hell. Hell will be created at the time of the Great White Throne Judgment. It is only then that satan, demons, and all those who obey satan will be cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone (Hell) where they will stay for ever and ever. But right now nobody is in Hell, Judgement Day is what determines who is not going to Heaven.

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DiscipleDave

Hell existed in the times of Jesus.. The scriptures reveal.. The Souls in prison who had been there since the times of Noah..

You are assuming that is Hell correct? Scriptures does not teach it is Hell, that is what you believe, NOT what Scriptures teach.

1 Peter 3 : KJV

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

There is ONLY ONE WAY for a person to enter into Heaven and that is through the belief in Jesus Christ, there is no exceptions, not even for those who died prior to Jesus Christ being born. EVERY person who died prior to Jesus Christ being crucified DID not go to Heaven or to Hell. They went to Hades. A place that held those who have died (Good or Bad). When Jesus was crucified, He went there and took the key from satan and released all those bound souls that were held there. Those who believed that Jesus was the Messiah, the one they have waited for, were released, such as Abraham, David, the prophets, and many others that were held there. Now they sleep, as do all the dead in Christ do now.

The Hell that will exist in the future, is a place that will bound satan, demons, and all followers of satan.

Know you not that it is that Day of Judgement that determines if a soul will go to Heaven or go to Hell, and that is determined by if your name is written in the Book of Life or not, ON THAT DAY. ONLY on that day is that book opened, and all those whose name is written in the Book of Life will be SAVED, all those who were not written in that Book on that DAY, will be left behind, and of those that are left behind ONLY 144,000 will be sealed, these are the firstfruits to the Lord Jesus Christ to repopulate the Earth during the 1,000 year reign of Christ on Earth.

NOBODY is cast into Hell. NOT until the Book of Life is opened the great and horrible day when the Lord Jesus Returns to the Earth. Great! for those whose name is in the Book of Life. Horrible for those whose names have been blotted out, or never been written in, the Book of Life.

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DiscipleDave

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[dcontroversal]

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Luke 16 is a chapter in the middle of all the Parables of Jesus. But this generation will take one parable out of all those parables and say and teach that it is real and not a parable. Sounds like a parable, looks like a parable, reads like a parable, said in the midst of all the other parables, 99.9% its a parable.

What? Do you actual think. that Abraham is the Father in Heaven? as the PARABLE says? The mere fact that it refers to Abraham as being the Father in Heaven, should reveal that it is a parable. But no not this generation, they use this Parable to back up what they believe to be TRUE, and say and teach that it is NOT a parable, again Changing the Word of God to fit into their own doctrines that they believe.

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DiscipleDave

Quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, flies like a duck, 99.9% its a duck

A. You have claimed to be a prophet
B) You claim Jesus will call you by your CC name and reference your teaching on the day of judgment
c) You have no credibility

Jesus on the other hand told a story, named the men involved and spoke the truth....HE HAS CREDIBILITY......!

 

[Blain]

It is clearly revealed in the Bible that satan and his followers will be cast into the Lake of fire for ever and ever. This is a future event. This thread, i believe is referring to if there is a Hell right now, existing today. And it is NOT clearly revealed that the Lake of Fire is existing TODAY.

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DiscipleDave

You claim there is no hell right now and that the lake of fire is a future event but tell me how do you know for sure? We can speak of things we have never seen or never been to as if we actually know and understand

Take this for instance Luke 16:19-31 19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



Now Jesus himself spoke of this scenario and I don't know about you but it seems as if he is not merely speaking of a future event in fact many of his parables were actual events when he spoke of them so you tell me my friend is there a hell right now?

 

[Ahwatukee]

Hello DiscipleDave,

Regarding whether or not the lake of fire already exists, not that it is really anything to debate about, please see the following.

"Then also He will say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, those being cursed, into the eternal fire, having been prepared for the devil and his angels."

hetoimazó/prepared:
Definition of past perfect.: of, relating to, or constituting a verb tense that is traditionally formed in English with had and denotes an action or state as completed at or before a past time spoken of.

 

[Willie-T]

Hello DiscipleDave,

Regarding whether or not the lake of fire already exists, not that it is really anything to debate about, please see the following.

"Then also He will say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, those being cursed, into the eternal fire, having been prepared for the devil and his angels."

hetoimazó/prepared:
Definition of past perfect.: of, relating to, or constituting a verb tense that is traditionally formed in English with had and denotes an action or state as completed at or before a past time spoken of.

How do you do that? Here you seem to understand that it was not literal sheep and goats (barnyard animals) He was having a conversation with, yet the "lake" in the very same parable, HAS to be literal in your estimation.

 

[Ahwatukee]

How do you do that? Here you seem to understand that it was not literal sheep and goats (barnyard animals) He was having a conversation with, yet the "lake" HAS to be literal in your estimation.

Hello Willie,

Regarding the lake of fire, it is a literal place, the destination of Satan, his angles, the beast and false prophet and all whose names have not be written in the book of life. Just because sheep and goats are used figuratively to represent the righteous and wicked, does not mean that the reference to the lake of fire has to be figurative as well.

My purpose was to demonstrate that his reference to the lake of fire as already being in existence.

 

[imfinallyfree]

I recently started really paying attention to religious beliefs and Christianity I guess is built on faith,faith is not having confirmation but believing anyway so I think that the concept of hell may be part of that....or not.

I don't agree with suicide but if I was enslaving people so that they could work for me and death was their only way out I'd probably make up some scare story to keep my labor force productive,so hell could be exactly that or not ,that's the thing about faith,you aren't going to know for sure until afterwards, if we did know for sure beforehand we wouldn't need faith.

I see the result of having no faith once in a while since I started researching religion because people are seeing that the end is near and some have asked me questions about God that basically amount to "what can I get away with before im sent to hell" and that's the primary reason for faith because if we had a definitive reference point for how much we can get away with we would go right up to the limit.

It's shocking that people don't understand that God will NOT be outsmarted yet they are still trying.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

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Luke 16 is a chapter in the middle of all the Parables of Jesus. But this generation will take one parable out of all those parables and say and teach that it is real and not a parable. Sounds like a parable, looks like a parable, reads like a parable, said in the midst of all the other parables, 99.9% its a parable.

What? Do you actual think. that Abraham is the Father in Heaven? as the PARABLE says? The mere fact that it refers to Abraham as being the Father in Heaven, should reveal that it is a parable. But no not this generation, they use this Parable to back up what they believe to be TRUE, and say and teach that it is NOT a parable, again Changing the Word of God to fit into their own doctrines that they believe.

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DiscipleDave

Quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, flies like a duck, 99.9% its a duck

A. You have claimed to be a prophet
B) You claim Jesus will call you by your CC name and reference your teaching on the day of judgment
c) You have no credibility

Jesus on the other hand told a story, named the men involved and spoke the truth....HE HAS CREDIBILITY......!

Noticed you did not answer even one question presented to you? Did Jesus answer all the questions presented to Him, or did He just ignore them? Or did He have an answer for them? Is it now written to study so you would know how to answer? But you answer nothing at all, why is that? Sorry another question.

i will ask again, if you believe that parable to be a real event, which specifically calls the Father in Heaven Abraham, Do you believe the Father in Heaven is Abraham, or do you just believe the parts of the parable that says a man spoke from Hell, while not believing the rest of the parable? Will you answer or no?

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

You claim there is no hell right now and that the lake of fire is a future event but tell me how do you know for sure? We can speak of things we have never seen or never been to as if we actually know and understand

Take this for instance Luke 16:19-31 19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



Now Jesus himself spoke of this scenario and I don't know about you but it seems as if he is not merely speaking of a future event in fact many of his parables were actual events when he spoke of them so you tell me my friend is there a hell right now?

No. The above is a parable, even as the 10 virgins was a parable NOT an actual event. Tell me if you believe this is an actual event, Do you also believe the Father in Heaven is Abraham? As the parable specifically calls the Father?

Google it, there are hundreds of websites that shows how it is ONLY a parable and not an actual event.
Yes i know, there are hundreds of websites that shows it is an actual event. BOTH can't possibly be True.
And Here is a TRUTH. The Father in Heaven is NOT Abraham, as the Parable (made up story to show a point, such as the 10 virgins, or the seeds by the wayside, or Well ALL OF THE PARABLES.) says He is. What then? You believe parts of that parable that there is a hell, but don't believe the part that says the Father in Heaven is Abraham? Again doing what this generation does best when it comes to Scriptures, picking and choosing which parts to believe and which parts to ignore, make void or interpret away.

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DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

Hello DiscipleDave,

Greetings to you as well Brother.

Regarding whether or not the lake of fire already exists, not that it is really anything to debate about, please see the following.

"Then also He will say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, those being cursed, into the eternal fire, having been prepared for the devil and his angels."

hetoimazó/prepared:
Definition of past perfect.: of, relating to, or constituting a verb tense that is traditionally formed in English with had and denotes an action or state as completed at or before a past time spoken of.

First and foremost let us understand we are talking about one of the parables of Jesus Christ. And notice the very start of that same parable:

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

So then we know this entire Parable is referring to the time that Jesus Christ will return to the Earth, is that not correct, Sir?

The verse you reference then is NOT for today, but the time of Christs return. What we do know is this. Hell is created BEFORE the point where Christ Returns. But to say it already exists TODAY is not Scriptural, nor is that backed up by Scriptures.

Think about it for a moment. Hell is a prison place. satan right now is FREE, this is his world, he is the god of this world, he roams free, his demons roam free, they are NOT bound, they are not cast into Hell Fire, they are free, out and about, devouring souls for their cause, they are in no way in Hell.

Think about this also, there is, according to Scriptures, ONE day coming that the Books are opened, it is ONLY on this Day that is determined who is Saved and who is NOT Saved, That is determined by if your name is written in the Book of Life or not written in it. Even the same parable we are talking about reveals this TRUTH. When are they separated? When does Jesus separate the Good from the Bad? When does He separate the Sheep from the Goats? When He returns is what this Parable clearly teaches. When are the bad cast into Hell Fire? When He returns. When are the Good separated from and accepted to be with Jesus? When He returns. The Parable itself teaches these things. Why then does this generation believe people are cast into Hell NOW? Why do people in this generation think people are separated NOW to go be with Jesus, at the time of their own death? This is NOT nor ever was Scriptural. This Parable is True, It is when Jesus Comes back, and ONLY then when it is determined who is separated from Him or with Him. NOT now, not before then, but when He says He will do that. When does he cast the Goats into everlasting fire? When? According to Scriptures in the above verse, when He returns, NOT BEFORE THAT TIME.

Why would there be a need for a Hell that NOBODY is cast into, UNTIL that Day that Jesus opens the Book of Life? Hell is not created yet, there is no need for it YET, but there will be a need for it, when He Returns.

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DiscipleDave

 

[Adstar]

It is clearly revealed in the Bible that satan and his followers will be cast into the Lake of fire for ever and ever. This is a future event. This thread, i believe is referring to if there is a Hell right now, existing today. And it is NOT clearly revealed that the Lake of Fire is existing TODAY.

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DiscipleDave

Of course hell exists today.. Jesus went there to preach to the souls there..

I Peter 3: KJV

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which alsohe went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire at the final judgement. But currently it is still in use..

Revelation 20: KJV
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Hello Willie,

Regarding the lake of fire, it is a literal place, the destination of Satan, his angles, the beast and false prophet and all whose names have not be written in the book of life. Just because sheep and goats are used figuratively to represent the righteous and wicked, does not mean that the reference to the lake of fire has to be figurative as well.

My purpose was to demonstrate that his reference to the lake of fire as already being in existence.

The Lake of Fire is real, it will be created, Think about what you yourself just said above

Regarding the lake of fire, it is a literal place, the destination of Satan, his angles, the beast and false prophet and all whose names have not be written in the book of life.

You are absolutely right it is a real place for satan and all the others to be cast into, But even yourself said it is their destination, NOT where they are at NOW, they are indeed destined to be cast into that real literal place, that will be created prior to the Return of Jesus Christ, because it is ONLY then that there will be a need for it. Hell does not exist right now, there is no need for it, satan is not cast into Hell, he has freewill to roam the Earth as he sees fit, this is his kingdom right now, that is until Christ comes and casts him and his followers into the Hell that God just created for them to be cast into.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

Of course hell exists today.. Jesus went there to preach to the souls there..

I Peter 3: KJV

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which alsohe went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Hell will be cast into the Lake of Fire at the final judgement. But currently it is still in use..

Revelation 20: KJV
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

sigh.... Jesus went into Hades, not Hell, to release the souls there. If they were in HELL, then Jesus would not have released them, think about that. Hell is a place that is going to be created that will confine satan and all his followers, satan and his followers are not yet bound are they, they are free to roam as they see fit, it is written that satan is the god of this world. he is NOT in HELL, which is a place that he and his followers will be cast into, a prison. That is not yet created but will be created prior to the return of Jesus Christ to set up His Kingdom on the Earth.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[Ahwatukee]

Hello DiscipleDave,

Think about it for a moment. Hell is a prison place. Satan right now is FREE, this is his world, he is the god of this world, he roams free, his demons roam free, they are NOT bound, they are not cast into Hell Fire, they are free, out and about, devouring souls for their cause, they are in no way in Hell.

First of all, I don't understand why you have assumed that I said that Satan and his angels are currently bound? For I never proclaimed this nor would I. For I am well aware that Satan and his angels are currently out in the world and won't be bound until after the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. Please provide the post where I said that they were currently bound. Consequently, Satan currently not being bound doesn't mean that the lake of fire doesn't currently exits. that is a false assumption.

Think about this also, there is, according to Scriptures, ONE day coming that the Books are opened, it is ONLY on this Day that is determined who is Saved and who is NOT Saved, That is determined by if your name is written in the Book of Life or not written in it. Even the same parable we are talking about reveals this TRUTH.

The day when "the books are opened" that you are referring to, takes place at the great white throne judgment of Rev.20:11-15 (GWT), which is judgment for the unrighteous dead only and which will take place after the thousand year reign of Christ. The church will have already been judged at the Bema seat of Christ at the resurrection, which will have taken place over a thousand years prior to the GWT.

When are they separated? When does Jesus separate the Good from the Bad? When does He separate the Sheep from the Goats? When He returns is what this Parable clearly teaches. When are the bad cast into Hell Fire? When He returns.

Sheep and goat judgment = Takes place after Christ returns to the earth to end the age

Great white throne judgment = Takes place after Christ's thousand year reign

The great white throne which is the final judgment, will include all of the unsaved dead throughout all of history. This will be a condemning judgment, which the righteous are not judged at. Regarding the church and judgment:

"Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? - 1 Cor.6:1-2

Why would there be a need for a Hell that NOBODY is cast into, UNTIL that Day that Jesus opens the Book of Life? Hell is not created yet, there is no need for it YET, but there will be a need for it, when He Returns.

Not that it matters, for this issue is neither here nor there, but it would be a false assumption to think that the lake of fire can't exist until until Satan and his angels ready to be thrown in. According to scripture, the book of life is opened at the GWTJ, which takes place after Christ's thousand year reign. Regarding this, we have scripture that demonstrates that the lake of fire exists at least a thousand years prior to that judgment, as demonstrated below:

"But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed signs on his behalf, by which he deceived those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. Both of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur."

Regarding the above, after God's wrath has been completed, Jesus returns to the earth to end the age and both the beast and the false prophet are captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire, which would demonstrate that the lake of fire will already exist when Christ returns to the earth and which is at least a thousand years prior to the GWTJ which is where the book of life is opened.