I would like to make an observation. People appear to believe as one we are saved in Christ and as a fruit of this we walk inobedience to Christ.
The apostate Jews required the fruit of their own works as a false sign that they had favor with God before they would believe. While the Greeks sought after the philosophies of this world as the wisdom thereof.
Both proved to be a stumbling block making the cross , the emblem of suffering without effect. . .
1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
There is discussion about how the fruit shows, what it is and how long it takes.But without the fruit, one could doubt anything happened.
We walk(understand God) by that faith of Christ that works in us. It’s when He sees the fruit, or the blood used to represent the work of His Spirit working in us, as that not seen.. You could say when he sees the outcome of the work of His Spirit.
How Long? Well if he has begun the good work of salvation in us he promises he will work to perform it to the very end. His love is Long suffering or it could not be kind.
Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
Not when they see the blood.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
We do have the privilege to loving rebuke each other so that we do not share in each other’s guilt .But only God can see into the hearts of all men and work in it to give us His desires of a new heart and new spirit that will never die. God is able.(1Ki 8:39)
As we are informed in Job 23. Our God is of one mind and always does whatsoever His soul pleases. For He works in us to perform that which he appoints to His new creature, to both will and do His good pleasure as a imputed righteousness ,not of our own selves .lest any man boast in false pride. It is He who can make our new hearts soft. We can offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving but we cannot change the law in respect to the word grace(truth and mercy)and whose work of faith (Christ )which it is after..