Does the Holy Spirit convict the born again believer of sin?
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I agree...especially when you read the whole letter to the Jewish listeners from the start to the point in Chapter 10.
Just for the record. You are not married to me or Joaniemarie or married to the many others that believe the very same thing. right?...
You would be quite the polygamist...lol
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You know...I had an alcoholic husband when I was first born again. I was reading the bible at the kitchen table one afternoon when he came home from a binge. He saw me reading, grabbed my bible and yelled at me how can I know this is true...
I suffered much under that marriage. And even with family when first baptized in Spirit. But, in the end...all were saved.
Sufferings have a purpose. And they don't keep us under the sadness of the trials when joy comes in the morning. I don't even think too much about the past, if ever unless as a witness.
I suffered much under that marriage. And even with family when first baptized in Spirit. But, in the end...all were saved.
Sufferings have a purpose. And they don't keep us under the sadness of the trials when joy comes in the morning. I don't even think too much about the past, if ever unless as a witness.
Amen...suffering brings out what is already inside us.
It's like refining silver or gold. The dross comes off to "reveal" the true substance of the metal that was there to begin with. Christ Himself is our true substance and life. We are a new creation in Him - created in righteousness and holiness.
It's like refining silver or gold. The dross comes off to "reveal" the true substance of the metal that was there to begin with. Christ Himself is our true substance and life. We are a new creation in Him - created in righteousness and holiness.
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it is included in the passage
as the original never had chapters and verses, why separate that verse from the rest?
it is a warning and underscores faith means continuing with your walk
is there some reason to think otherwise?
anything I have ever read or studied would disagree with you here
this thread has devolved into the usual arguements. nothing new
as the original never had chapters and verses, why separate that verse from the rest?
it is a warning and underscores faith means continuing with your walk
is there some reason to think otherwise?
anything I have ever read or studied would disagree with you here
this thread has devolved into the usual arguements. nothing new
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here's something from a commentary regarding Hebrews 10:26...I can find many such that agree with my position
so if this boils down to a matter of opinion, I will go with the larger agreement and the interpretation that has been held in conjunction with the rest of the passage
it makes far more sense to conclude the Jewish congregation is being warned against returning to a system then it does to state that verse is an exception
Barnes's Commentary on Hebrews 10 :26
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth - If after we are converted and become true Christians we should apostatize, it would be impossible to be recovered again, for there would be no other sacrifice for sin; no way by which we could be saved. This passage, however, like Hebrews 6:4-6, has given rise to much difference of opinion. But that the above is the correct interpretation, seems evident to me from the following considerations:
(1) It is the natural and obvious interpretation, such as would occur probably to ninety-nine readers in a hundred, if there were no theory to support, and no fear that it would conflict with some other doctrine.
(2) it accords with the scope of the Epistle, which is, to keep those whom the apostle addressed from returning again to the Jewish religion, under the trials to which they were subjected.
(3) it is in accordance with the fair meaning of the language - the words "after that we have received the knowledge of the truth," referring more naturally to true conversion than to any other state of mind.
(4) the sentiment would not be correct if it referred to any but real Christians. It would not be true that one who had been somewhat enlightened, and who then sinned "wilfully," must look on fearfully to the judgment without a possibility of being saved. There are multitudes of cases where such persons are saved. They "wilfully" resist the Holy Spirit; they strive against him; they for a long time refuse to yield, but they are brought again to reflection, and are led to give their hearts to God.
(5) it is true, and always will be true, that if a sincere Christian should apostatize he could never be converted again; see the notes on Hebrews 6:4-6. The reasons are obvious. He would have tried the only plan of salvation, and it would have failed. He would have embraced the Saviour, and there would not have been efficacy enough in his blood to keep him, and there would be no more powerful Saviour and no more efficacious blood of atonement. He would have renounced the Holy Spirit, and would have shown that his influences were not effectual to keep him, and there would be no other agent of greater power to renew and save him after he had apostatized. For these reasons it seems clear to me that this passage refers to true Christians, and that the doctrine here taught is, that if such an one should apostatize, he must look forward only to the terrors of the judgment, and to final condemnation.
so if this boils down to a matter of opinion, I will go with the larger agreement and the interpretation that has been held in conjunction with the rest of the passage
it makes far more sense to conclude the Jewish congregation is being warned against returning to a system then it does to state that verse is an exception
Barnes's Commentary on Hebrews 10 :26
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth - If after we are converted and become true Christians we should apostatize, it would be impossible to be recovered again, for there would be no other sacrifice for sin; no way by which we could be saved. This passage, however, like Hebrews 6:4-6, has given rise to much difference of opinion. But that the above is the correct interpretation, seems evident to me from the following considerations:
(1) It is the natural and obvious interpretation, such as would occur probably to ninety-nine readers in a hundred, if there were no theory to support, and no fear that it would conflict with some other doctrine.
(2) it accords with the scope of the Epistle, which is, to keep those whom the apostle addressed from returning again to the Jewish religion, under the trials to which they were subjected.
(3) it is in accordance with the fair meaning of the language - the words "after that we have received the knowledge of the truth," referring more naturally to true conversion than to any other state of mind.
(4) the sentiment would not be correct if it referred to any but real Christians. It would not be true that one who had been somewhat enlightened, and who then sinned "wilfully," must look on fearfully to the judgment without a possibility of being saved. There are multitudes of cases where such persons are saved. They "wilfully" resist the Holy Spirit; they strive against him; they for a long time refuse to yield, but they are brought again to reflection, and are led to give their hearts to God.
(5) it is true, and always will be true, that if a sincere Christian should apostatize he could never be converted again; see the notes on Hebrews 6:4-6. The reasons are obvious. He would have tried the only plan of salvation, and it would have failed. He would have embraced the Saviour, and there would not have been efficacy enough in his blood to keep him, and there would be no more powerful Saviour and no more efficacious blood of atonement. He would have renounced the Holy Spirit, and would have shown that his influences were not effectual to keep him, and there would be no other agent of greater power to renew and save him after he had apostatized. For these reasons it seems clear to me that this passage refers to true Christians, and that the doctrine here taught is, that if such an one should apostatize, he must look forward only to the terrors of the judgment, and to final condemnation.