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The next account giving us insight as to the nature & identity of God is found at Exodus 19.


The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Or, does God HIMSELF become “a little lower than ANGELS”, as Christ later did?


Ex 19: 9-And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud’s thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever. And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
 
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The TWO THOUSAND YEAR Slander!


The 'Holy' Trinity, the Triune 'Godhead', God-the-Father, God-the-Son, God-the- Holy Ghost, a 'Three-in-One' God!
For TWO THOUSAND YEARS this flimsily disguised Polytheism has been taught and programmed into our minds by CHURCHianity
Is it TRUE?
No. But they twist and mis-translate enough scriptures to fool the masses.
Originally, the Roman Universal ('Catholic') church tortured and killed those refusing to accept this Fabricated Trio.


However, the matter really CAN be easily cleared up WITH NO DOUBT by simply taking a closer look at the Bible, while setting Church Dogma aside!
If you WANT truth- pray for Understanding as you read these inspired words of our maker!
All scriptures giving insight as to who God and Christ are, and what the holy spirit is- from the very START of
the Bible (Genesis)- in ORDER- to the very END of it (Revelation).


We first start with the very first reference to the holy spirit:


Gen 1:2- And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God
moved upon the face of the waters.


Nothing to indicate a Ghost-God..."spirit' is the translation of the Hebrew word for "breath, wind"- an unseen force.
Ghost is the translation of pneuma, spirit ...."spirit' is the translation of the Hebrew word for "breath, wind"- an unseen force
 
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heartofdavid

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Sigh.
They CAN'T take focusing on the scriptures.
They deny them as fats as I post them.

GOD referred to Moses as "God", not us.
Just as he did with Jesus.

Stay by your Triune Polytheism in pretense, if you choose.
You will not be able to claim ignorance when standing before Christ.
Creator.

Jesus IS creator.

Jesus is God

Moses could not resurrect,or create everything seen and unseen.

... Your guys won't go there.

Your guys even printed a changed bible.
 

trofimus

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The next account giving us insight as to the nature & identity of God is found at Exodus 19.


The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Or, does God HIMSELF become “a little lower than ANGELS”, as Christ later did?


Ex 19: 9-And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud’s thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever. And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
Why do you need to use such bad translations? The word "Jehovah" is not present in any text. Its a middle-ages invention.
 
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heartofdavid

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I could never join a organization with a changed bible.

How can people be that gullible?
 
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heartofdavid

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The next account giving us insight as to the nature & identity of God is found at Exodus 19.


The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Or, does God HIMSELF become “a little lower than ANGELS”, as Christ later did?


Ex 19: 9-And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud’s thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever. And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
You joined an organization that uses conjecture to destroy truth.

Try something new.

Compile truth,proceed from that starting point.
 

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Sigh.
They CAN'T take focusing on the scriptures.
They deny them as fats as I post them.

GOD referred to Moses as "God", not us.
Just as he did with Jesus.

Stay by your Triune Polytheism in pretense, if you choose.
You will not be able to claim ignorance when standing before Christ.
But in all honesty, and this is a sincere question--if you don't believe Jesus is God, why would you be concerned with standing before Christ in the first place? :confused:
 
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Why do you need to use such bad translations? The word "Jehovah" is not present in any text. Its a middle-ages invention.
The attribute that points to God as our Savior is a middle aged invention?
 

trofimus

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The attribute that points to God as our Savior is a middle aged invention?
The word "Jehovah" is an invention. Not present in any text.
 
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Ghost is the translation of pneuma, spirit ...."spirit' is the translation of the Hebrew word for "breath, wind"- an unseen force
A bad translation, since, according to the Bible there is no such thing as "ghosts".
 

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Let's see... new guy, 24 years old, saved in 1970, challenging core truths of Christianity.

I'd give him a week before he hits the road to Banville. Until then, I need to make more popcorn.
You must be an optimist in giving him a week. The current over/under odds are 3 days. I'm trending towards the under.
 

trofimus

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Neither is "YHWH" Yahweh, Jehovah in English- which He SAID is His Name FOREVER!
YHWH is in masoretic text.

Lord is in Greek text.

Jehovah is nowhere, its a mistransliteration originated in the KJV.

If you want to at least sound credible, use better translations.
 

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The attribute that points to God as our Savior is a middle aged invention?
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery... Exodus 20:1

and here is God the saviour long before the middle ages!

[h=1]Isaiah 45:21-22New International Version - UK (NIVUK)[/h][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]21 Declare what is to be, present it –
let them take counsel together.
Who foretold this long ago,
who declared it from the distant past?
Was it not I, the Lord?
And there is no God apart from me,
a righteous God and a Saviour;
there is none but me.
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]22 ‘Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
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[FONT=&quot]for I am God, and there is no other.[/FONT]
 
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You must be an optimist in giving him a week. The current over/under odds are 3 days. I'm trending towards the under.
He knows he will be banned.

He didn't know he was getting his butt kicked on the way out
Lol
 

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A bad translation, since, according to the Bible there is no such thing as "ghosts".
I've always found it interesting that when Jesus appeared to his disciples after the resurrection, the disciples thought He was a ghost.

But Jesus Himself told them, "Touch me and see. A ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." (Luke 24:39.)

Now, I personally believe that Jesus is God and a part of all creation, so it might be just me, but I would think that if ghosts just plain don't exist, the Maker of All would have just said so.

I'm not saying that ghosts are what modern culture seems to define them as, but it's interesting that you say there are no references to ghosts being real in the Bible.

Unless, of course, the original word used for "ghost" can somehow be finagled into an entirely different meaning...

Which of course... if that's the case, I'm sure you'll be the one to tell us. :)
 
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tourist

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True- most forums ban those revealing the Truth.
And, faith IS entertain to most; thus the popcorn...
This site will not ban someone for revealing the truth or even someone who does not know the truth. This site will indeed ban someone who's agenda only consists of causing dissension and strife.

I have a 'question' for you. Why not take the time to interact with the other members by tell us a little bit about yourself and how you have come to believe what you do? It is hard to fellowship with someone who is not willing to talk about who they are and what they are about. I don't believe that you're going to convince even a single member that your perception is biblically correct about the Trinity and the divinity of God.