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They are both nucleic acids. DNA is our basic genetic code. RNA relays instructions from the nucleus to the cytoplasm for amino acid gathering so they become protein.
I'm in A and P right now..
Thought I'd help out.
I'm in A and P right now..
Thought I'd help out.
Thanks. Somewhere in a reading I thought it was that the RNA is what makes female.
I read a lot of many different topics, so my head is full of both useful, and useless info. The trick is to know which is which.
I read a lot of many different topics, so my head is full of both useful, and useless info. The trick is to know which is which.
After this post I'm going to try not to address this person. For the past couple weeks we have let this person and his heresy, and our responses to his heresy, dominate the thread. There is of course a place for correcting heretical doctrines, especially for the casual reader and baby Christian. But look at what his doctrine has had us focus on, SIN, rather than our beautiful, incredible Savior. For instance I've addressed Peter's sin of hypocrisy, instead of Peter saying things like "Lord, You know I love You".
Many of us have very successfully, using Scripture corrected his sinless perfection heresy that is so destructive, especially to a baby Christian that may stumble, [James tells us we ALL stumble in MANY ways] and read his cruel doctrine, and become incredibly distressed if they believe him.
So I think his post here clarifies perfectly his thought process of capitalizing "I AM" intentionally or not, fits his sinless perfection doctrine as he believes he is the same as our Lord.
Of course my brothers and sisters in Christ should do as they are led, but if you don't feed the beast, he will starve for lack of intention, and we can move on to glorify God, instead of talking about sin so much.
Be Blessed!
Many of us have very successfully, using Scripture corrected his sinless perfection heresy that is so destructive, especially to a baby Christian that may stumble, [James tells us we ALL stumble in MANY ways] and read his cruel doctrine, and become incredibly distressed if they believe him.
So I think his post here clarifies perfectly his thought process of capitalizing "I AM" intentionally or not, fits his sinless perfection doctrine as he believes he is the same as our Lord.
Of course my brothers and sisters in Christ should do as they are led, but if you don't feed the beast, he will starve for lack of intention, and we can move on to glorify God, instead of talking about sin so much.
Be Blessed!
So is yours.
Yet you still do not acknowledge what Jesus said, the verse you asked me to post. So I will do it again for you.
John 16:8-9
8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
There you have it the words of the only sinless person who walked the earth.
if it’s belief then it’s unbeleif.
If it’s unbeleif then it’s not faith.
It is the sin of unbelief—a refusal to trust in Jesus.
In your initial response to when I said that the Holy Spirit comes to convict the world of sin which is unbeleif in him you responded with
“Though I agree with the statement (based on Heb 10:39) I cant remeber Jesus ever saying such a thing.
Have you a scripture in mind. (Post 43248 was my response where I posted the scripture)
Your response (post 43322)
”Hebrews 10:39 wasn’t enough for you?
Lack of belief isn’t a sin
The sin is all the other things they have done against God And their neighbours“
So obviously Hebrews wasn’t enough for me you asked. No it wasn’t because I trust the words of Jesus over men.
What I find intersting and I totally agree with you “All the other things they have done against God and their neighbours”
Who is they and who are our neighbours according to your sentence?
What context are you using here?
What about our enemies?
So given what I believe that the sin of unbelief is to refuse to trust in Jesus I actually would take it further.
It goes beyond placing our faith in Jesus initially.
Jesus said “Do not worry about your life. Your Father will provide for you.
This is a command of Jesus, and he follows it with “But seek his kingdom”
If we have just one worry one doubt then we cannot fully seek his kingdom.
If we worry then we don’t truly trust what Jesus said. Therfore unbelief, Not trusting him for his provision.
Therefore a sin.
Can you honestly say that you have not had a worry that you have tried to sort out yourself rather than trust God.
What about the guy who came to Jesus and said “Jesus I believe help me in my unbelief”
A man who acknowledge belief but at the same time had unbelief, with tears in his eyes.
Did Jesus rebuke him? No he did not.
Actually what is sin to you?
You say it’s not unbelief therefore what is it?
You said earlier that you read the bible to others (I think in Burgerking) are they your neighbours?
What about loving your brothers? Who are your brothers?
What about loving your enemies? Who are they?
You have said that we cannot be perfect/sinless unless we have the Holy Spirit in us.
If that’s the case why did Jesus say
Matthew 5:48
48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect?
They didn’t have the Holy Spirit in them so why tell them to be perfect?
I suggest to you that you focus on what Jesus said and his true intent and then reconcile that with the books after the Gospels.
If we could truly be sinless then there was no reason for Jesus to die for us.
If we could be truly sinless then there is no reason why Jesus should be interceding for us.
He could have just taught like he did then say “Right I’ve told you what you have to do, now I am going back to Father and go be sinless”
John 16:9
9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
Yet you still do not acknowledge what Jesus said, the verse you asked me to post. So I will do it again for you.
John 16:8-9
8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
There you have it the words of the only sinless person who walked the earth.
if it’s belief then it’s unbeleif.
If it’s unbeleif then it’s not faith.
It is the sin of unbelief—a refusal to trust in Jesus.
In your initial response to when I said that the Holy Spirit comes to convict the world of sin which is unbeleif in him you responded with
“Though I agree with the statement (based on Heb 10:39) I cant remeber Jesus ever saying such a thing.
Have you a scripture in mind. (Post 43248 was my response where I posted the scripture)
Your response (post 43322)
”Hebrews 10:39 wasn’t enough for you?
Lack of belief isn’t a sin
The sin is all the other things they have done against God And their neighbours“
So obviously Hebrews wasn’t enough for me you asked. No it wasn’t because I trust the words of Jesus over men.
What I find intersting and I totally agree with you “All the other things they have done against God and their neighbours”
Who is they and who are our neighbours according to your sentence?
What context are you using here?
What about our enemies?
So given what I believe that the sin of unbelief is to refuse to trust in Jesus I actually would take it further.
It goes beyond placing our faith in Jesus initially.
Jesus said “Do not worry about your life. Your Father will provide for you.
This is a command of Jesus, and he follows it with “But seek his kingdom”
If we have just one worry one doubt then we cannot fully seek his kingdom.
If we worry then we don’t truly trust what Jesus said. Therfore unbelief, Not trusting him for his provision.
Therefore a sin.
Can you honestly say that you have not had a worry that you have tried to sort out yourself rather than trust God.
What about the guy who came to Jesus and said “Jesus I believe help me in my unbelief”
A man who acknowledge belief but at the same time had unbelief, with tears in his eyes.
Did Jesus rebuke him? No he did not.
Actually what is sin to you?
You say it’s not unbelief therefore what is it?
You said earlier that you read the bible to others (I think in Burgerking) are they your neighbours?
What about loving your brothers? Who are your brothers?
What about loving your enemies? Who are they?
You have said that we cannot be perfect/sinless unless we have the Holy Spirit in us.
If that’s the case why did Jesus say
Matthew 5:48
48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect?
They didn’t have the Holy Spirit in them so why tell them to be perfect?
I suggest to you that you focus on what Jesus said and his true intent and then reconcile that with the books after the Gospels.
If we could truly be sinless then there was no reason for Jesus to die for us.
If we could be truly sinless then there is no reason why Jesus should be interceding for us.
He could have just taught like he did then say “Right I’ve told you what you have to do, now I am going back to Father and go be sinless”
John 16:9
9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
I looked to see what I had been reading. It's about the possibility of Eve being created by cloning. And it's the RNA that was the messenger as the writer terms it to create xx.
Edenic Eve Versus Clonaid Eve: An Ethical Dimension of Human Cloning
You can google and get the book if interested.
Are you in nursing? I loved anatomy and physiology. But, that for me was many years ago.
Edenic Eve Versus Clonaid Eve: An Ethical Dimension of Human Cloning
You can google and get the book if interested.
Are you in nursing? I loved anatomy and physiology. But, that for me was many years ago.
If you don’t mind can I add the following.
Its not disagreeing with what you are sayin at all.
I just want to address ‘issues’ with regards to being his children.
So many believers have issues believing that they are children of God, that God loves them as much as he loves Jesus.
They seek approval and don’t understand they are approved.
They seek love and don’t know they are truly loved.
They work to be loved and approved and be accepted as a child.
They Dont know that they are Significant, Accepted and Secure in God.
My wife and I have a ministry in church. Walking alongside those who want to know more about Jesus but also those really struggling.
One thing we really focus on and say to females and males.
You are a precious daughter and you are precious son to the Father.
Whilst on earth to me it is gender specific becuase in this world everything we know or understand is gender related.
God sees through all of that and say “You are my precious children and I love you so so much”
Its not disagreeing with what you are sayin at all.
I just want to address ‘issues’ with regards to being his children.
So many believers have issues believing that they are children of God, that God loves them as much as he loves Jesus.
They seek approval and don’t understand they are approved.
They seek love and don’t know they are truly loved.
They work to be loved and approved and be accepted as a child.
They Dont know that they are Significant, Accepted and Secure in God.
My wife and I have a ministry in church. Walking alongside those who want to know more about Jesus but also those really struggling.
One thing we really focus on and say to females and males.
You are a precious daughter and you are precious son to the Father.
Whilst on earth to me it is gender specific becuase in this world everything we know or understand is gender related.
God sees through all of that and say “You are my precious children and I love you so so much”
if only you actually spoke to the point, instead of dodging it.
how is that 'inconsequential' ?
can you possibly explain how you didn't sin with your mouth when you said that?
He provided a perfect way to respond - did you take it?
and more importantly, exactly what is it we must believe? what does He mean, "believe that I AM" ?
And this is His command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ
(1 John 3:23)
(1 John 3:23)
how is that 'inconsequential' ?
can you possibly explain how you didn't sin with your mouth when you said that?
He provided a perfect way to respond - did you take it?
and more importantly, exactly what is it we must believe? what does He mean, "believe that I AM" ?
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
(John 3:18)
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
(John 5:24)
Truly, truly, I tell you, he who believes has eternal life.
(John 6:47)
But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in His name.
(John 20:31)
(John 3:18)
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
(John 5:24)
Truly, truly, I tell you, he who believes has eternal life.
(John 6:47)
But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in His name.
(John 20:31)
if only you actually spoke to the point, instead of dodging it.
how is that 'inconsequential' ?
can you possibly explain how you didn't sin with your mouth when you said that?
He provided a perfect way to respond - did you take it?
and more importantly, exactly what is it we must believe? what does He mean, "believe that I AM" ?
And this is His command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ
(1 John 3:23)
(1 John 3:23)
how is that 'inconsequential' ?
can you possibly explain how you didn't sin with your mouth when you said that?
He provided a perfect way to respond - did you take it?
and more importantly, exactly what is it we must believe? what does He mean, "believe that I AM" ?
That sin being unbelief in him.
So far that’s been dodged as well
