Kavik,
In your Post #258, you replied to my Post #243 and you replied to peacefulbeliever's Post #248 without distinguishing to whom you were responding. I am responding to your reply to my post #243.
In Acts 2:7, the people who heard the apostles speak in tongues were amazed because "are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"
Your insistence that the manifestation of tongues was commonplace/ordinary because "they were Hellenized Jews and also merchants of sorts" is disproved by the amazement of the firsthand eyewitnesses at the time. The people present at the time took note and marveled that these Galilaeans spoke in the native tongue of those present.
The manifestation of kinds of tongues spoken of in 1 Cor 12:10 does require a person to be born again.
To learn a foreign language through study can be learned by anyone ... born again or not born again (natural man).
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
The apostles spoke the words revealed to them by the Holy Spirit.
Learning the language spoken in another country is not the same thing as the manifestation of kinds of tongues spoken of in 1 Cor 12:10.
In your Post #258, you replied to my Post #243 and you replied to peacefulbeliever's Post #248 without distinguishing to whom you were responding. I am responding to your reply to my post #243.
Actually no, they didn’t. Unlearned and ignorant doesn’t equate to not being able to converse in another language. They were Hellenized Jews and also merchants of sorts (fishermen who presumably sold their catches) - no reason to think they weren’t familiar with Greek. If indeed, Peter traveled to Rome, he would have spoken Greek, not Latin.
Your insistence that the manifestation of tongues was commonplace/ordinary because "they were Hellenized Jews and also merchants of sorts" is disproved by the amazement of the firsthand eyewitnesses at the time. The people present at the time took note and marveled that these Galilaeans spoke in the native tongue of those present.
Kavik said:
The ability to speak a foreign language (the Biblical meaning of ‘speaking in tongues’) does not require one to be born again.
To learn a foreign language through study can be learned by anyone ... born again or not born again (natural man).
Kavik said:
The Spirit may indeed inspire one what to say, but not the language used to say it in.
The apostles spoke the words revealed to them by the Holy Spirit.
Kavik said:
Yes, he may give the gift of ministries, but when one is ministering to either foreigners or in another country, s/he will need to learn the language spoken (‘speak with new tongues’).