The King James Bible

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Dino246

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What you fail to understand that God did the translating and what is and will continue to be shown is that this did not occur by random chance. If not by random chance then was it of men or of God. No one here has proven that there are no such patterns.
It appears that although you understand basic arithmetic, you don't understand basic logic.

I don't need to disprove the existence of the patterns... at all. I have no obligation to try, nor does anyone else.

What I have done is demonstrate their irrelevance.
 
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"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:23-24)

Here in the King James Bible Adam speaks exactly 46 words. 23 from the mom and 23 from the dad for a total 46 chromosomes. You can take this book literal.

Have any of you naysayers even realized that God has placed the number 37 in your body. You mitochondrial DNA that you get from your mother contains 37 genes and your body regulates its temperature at 37 decrees C?
 

Lighthearted

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What evidence do you have for this assertion?




Unless you are God, and I am certain you aren't, you have no idea either how this sounds in God's ears.

The whole point of this post is completely undermined by the fact that the KJV is in English, not Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. Why? Because the people of 17th century England needed God's word in their own language. The English-speaking people of the 21st century need the word of God in their own language. 17th-century English is not 21st-century English!
Just a new saying for you Dino!
There are three things I am sure of:
#1 There is a God!
#2 I'm not Him!
#3 I'm pretty sure you aren't either!
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What evidence do you have for this assertion?




Unless you are God, and I am certain you aren't, you have no idea either how this sounds in God's ears.

The whole point of this post is completely undermined by the fact that the KJV is in English, not Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. Why? Because the people of 17th century England needed God's word in their own language. The English-speaking people of the 21st century need the word of God in their own language. 17th-century English is not 21st-century English!
And when the KJV is translated into any of the other thousands of languages of the world, that blows the "word pattern" all to pieces.

All this does is to arrogantly boast that the understanding of the Bible was only intended by God for a few centuries after 1611..... and those peasants had better be Math Majors.
 
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"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:23-24)

Here in the King James Bible Adam speaks exactly 46 words. 23 from the mom and 23 from the dad for a total 46 chromosomes. You can take this book literal.

did u know that the original manuscripts dont got verse and chapter numbers? so ur point kinda evaporates u see...... this is making me smile in real life so thanks for that. i dont wanna be mean im sure ur a nice guy but i think u have really fell for some KJVmath here.......... who did u hear this from? peter ruckman or soemthing? no way u came up with this on ur own u see....... ur cool tho. welcome to christianchat

 
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Basic logic says that this is not my chance. It is that simple.
 

Dino246

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Have any of you naysayers even realized that God has placed the number 37 in your body. You mitochondrial DNA that you get from your mother contains 37 genes and your body regulates its temperature at 37 decrees C?
How convenient... for those who use Celsius. For those who use Farenheit, the number is 98.6 degrees. And for those who use Kelvin, its 310 degrees. So much for arithmetical magic. These are conventions, nothing more.

Further, 37 degrees is only the average internal temperature. Temperature varies around the body, depending on the structure, its function, and its activity at the time.
 

Dino246

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Basic logic says that this is not my chance. It is that simple.
Basic logic doesn't say anything at all. That is another logical fallacy, called "reification".
 
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"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:23-24)

Here in the King James Bible Adam speaks exactly 46 words. 23 from the mom and 23 from the dad for a total 46 chromosomes. You can take this book literal.

Have any of you naysayers even realized that God has placed the number 37 in your body. You mitochondrial DNA that you get from your mother contains 37 genes and your body regulates its temperature at 37 decrees C?
conceived = 46 times in KJB
multiply = 46 times KJB
all forms of the word travail = found in 46 verses of KJB

[FONT=&quot]Psalms 139:16) "Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."

substance = 46 times in the Old Testament of KJB
vessel = 46 times in KJB

Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. (1 Peter 3:7)


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How convenient... for those who use Celsius. For those who use Farenheit, the number is 98.6 degrees. And for those who use Kelvin, its 310 degrees. So much for arithmetical magic. These are conventions, nothing more.

Further, 37 degrees is only the average internal temperature. Temperature varies around the body, depending on the structure, its function, and its activity at the time.
Degrees celsius are based of the freezing and boiling points of water and water is the basis of all life and in the Bible the word of God is likened to water!
 
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And when the KJV is translated into any of the other thousands of languages of the world, that blows the "word pattern" all to pieces.

All this does is to arrogantly boast that the understanding of the Bible was only intended by God for a few centuries after 1611..... and those peasants had better be Math Majors.
The patterns exist and they were meant to be revealed in our day!

[FONT=&quot]But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (Daniel 12:4)

This is exactly what is happening.[/FONT]
 
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How convenient... for those who use Celsius. For those who use Farenheit, the number is 98.6 degrees. And for those who use Kelvin, its 310 degrees. So much for arithmetical magic. These are conventions, nothing more.

Further, 37 degrees is only the average internal temperature. Temperature varies around the body, depending on the structure, its function, and its activity at the time.
It is funny that you give a value of 98.6 (a tenth of a degree) and 98.6 IS EXACTLY 37 DEGREES C
 

Dino246

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Degrees celsius are based of the freezing and boiling points of water and water is the basis of all life and in the Bible the word of God is likened to water!
Again, Celsius is a convention, nothing more. The freezing and boiling points of water are entirely dependent upon pressure. "Life" is based on God, not on water. We would have no life if it were not given to us by God first.

It's funny that you argue first that the numerical patterns could only be of divine origin, and then you use arguments based on human invention to support your position.

Let me ask you a simple question: Have you accepted Christ's sacrifice on your behalf? Do you believe that He rose from the dead? None of this KJV number stuff has any value to the salvation of your soul. If you ignore the plain text of whatever Bible you read, you are no better than the Pharisees who opposed Jesus.
 

Christian71

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1 John 5:7 is one of the most heavily patterned verses in the King James Bible. In fact the number 157 is the 37th prime number. I will post it here before the day is done.
james... James... JAMES!... Take a chill pill!... There is a scripture that states "GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION"... What are you doing but confusing God's children... I started reading the KJV when I was 13... Not bragging, its a fact... Very seldom do I fly off the handle but hopefully you will learn... From one KJV lover to another... LEAVE THESE BRETHREN ALONE!... See you made Old Brother Glen break out his Peacemaker!... Brother Glen:mad:
 
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The patterns exist and they were meant to be revealed in our day!

[FONT="]But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (Daniel 12:4)

This is exactly what is happening.[/FONT]
All that nonsense explains nothing about what becomes of the book when it is translated into any of the languages of people who cannot read any era of English. The patterns are then completely gone.... just as they are with any of the modern English translations that today's majority of English speakers can read and understand.

Are you saying, as you have already said of the people of old, that even these people (living right now) are not to know God's "true" word? That's a little morbidly sick.
 
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Has anyone here not realized that the number 37 is the key to understanding 666?

666= 37 x 2 x 3 x 3

and 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+....+35 + 36 = 666 thus 666 is the 36th triangular number which is 1 short of 37

the 37th triangular number is 703 (again we have the special numbers on 7 and 3 joined together)

the number 37 is the key to understanding the mathematics of 6 x 6 magic square

it is said that the number of man is 6 since he was created on the 6th day along with beasts

Does any one here not believe the Bible when it states there is wisdom involved in counting this number?
 
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james... James... JAMES!... Take a chill pill!... There is a scripture that states "GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION"... What are you doing but confusing God's children... I started reading the KJV when I was 13... Not bragging, its a fact... Very seldom do I fly off the handle but hopefully you will learn... From one KJV lover to another... LEAVE THESE BRETHREN ALONE!... See you made Old Brother Glen break out his Peacemaker!... Brother Glen:mad:
And that is the whole point! The book is in perfect order. What did I brag about? Gods perfect book that is in perfect order!
 

trofimus

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Has anyone here not realized that the number 37 is the key to understanding 666?

666= 37 x 2 x 3 x 3

and 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+....+35 + 36 = 666 thus 666 is the 36th triangular number which is 1 short of 37

the 37th triangular number is 703 (again we have the special numbers on 7 and 3 joined together)

the number 37 is the key to understanding the mathematics of 6 x 6 magic square
Well, you showed some arithmetic play, but I do not see any "understanding" in your post.

it is said that the number of man is 6 since he was created on the 6th day along with beasts
Where is it said?
 
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Has anyone here not realized that the number 37 is the key to understanding 666?

666= 37 x 2 x 3 x 3

and 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+....+35 + 36 = 666 thus 666 is the 36th triangular number which is 1 short of 37

the 37th triangular number is 703 (again we have the special numbers on 7 and 3 joined together)

the number 37 is the key to understanding the mathematics of 6 x 6 magic square

it is said that the number of man is 6 since he was created on the 6th day along with beasts

Does any one here not believe the Bible when it states there is wisdom involved in counting this number?
I THINK YOU INADVERTANTLY JUST EXPOSED THE WHOLE SECRET BEHIND ALL THIS.