Disapointed In Trump SOTU

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RickyZ

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I'm sorry, would drink the cool aid have been more appropriate?

I am burdened for their souls, Roger. That's why I try. And yes animosity for those who choose to drink the cool aid even tho they're smart enough to know better. That's why I don't try very hard.

 

MichaelOwen

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I'm sorry, would drink the cool aid have been more appropriate?

I am burdened for their souls, Roger. That's why I try. And yes animosity for those who choose to drink the cool aid even tho they're smart enough to know better. That's why I don't try very hard.

And what exactly is this "Kool-aid" that you speak of?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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You're kidding me, right?

Wow, it's amazing how myopic people have gotten! Can't even remember the last 8 years, much less what happened in 2008.

oh but we do remember

did you miss the post where I addressed some of the last years?


Originally Posted by RickyZ

The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.




like Ocare?

you mean if you want to know what is in it just pass it?

you mean that particular disaster that punished people who were too poor to pay for the MANDATED healthcare?

or do you possibly mean the Iran deal?

or maybe the lack of Christians being allowed into the US while Muslims were cultivated and allowed in with impunity...?

or maybe you mean all the LACK of legislaton enacted by mr community organizer? he did have a pen and phone after all

or how about the Chrysler bailout in which he violated the constitution's Takings and Due Process clauses by forcing the secured creditors to take 30 cents on the dollar? of course you would see these people as fat cats...but still...they were LEGAL fat cats whether or not you like it

or how about the political profiling done at the IRS?

or how about Obamas 'recess appointments'? FYI, in 2014, the Supreme Court ruled this activity was illegal

And DACA and DAPA? these are actually illegal and in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, immigration law AND the Constitutions 'Take Care' clause

and how about trying to regulate the internet? he infringed on the First Amendment rights of internet providers

and on and on and on and on and on

and of course let's remember the FISA warrant fiasco...

I understand you may actually approve of the some of the above...which barely scratches the surface of the illegality of Obama's presidency but there are laws to uphold the behavior of everyone in the country from the top down
 

JosephsDreams

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You're kidding me, right?

Wow, it's amazing how myopic people have gotten! Can't even remember the last 8 years, much less what happened in 2008.
I am serious as cancer. Are you kidding me saying I am kidding?
 

JosephsDreams

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The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.
Nobody openly spoke of assassinating Obama. BTW, this country is so upside down at this point in time that if a black president got assassinated there would be race rioting, and articles about how white people hate blacks and that would go on for about 2 years. But if a white president Trump got assassinated I would bet you dollar for dollar any amount you want that someone in the media would imply or outright say he had it coming to him.
 

RickyZ

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Lemme throw something out here to try and illustrate a point

Ok quick show of hands ... how many here think that Nancy Pelosi was wrong to support the Obamacare bill without ever having read it?

Wow. looks like a smart group of people (my hand is up btw)

Ok, of those with their hands raised, how many of you opposed the Obamacare bill without ever having read it?

OH NO! Looks like a room full of cool-aid drinkers now.





Now, for bonus points, let's see how many totally missed the point responses and deflections we get...
 

JosephsDreams

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You know why i opposed Obama care w/o reading it? Two reasons. First, do you recall how and when he got that bill passed?
The second reason is because at that time I already knew what a perverted and malicious liar he was and therefore was prone to be very very cautious with anything he did in the name of progress or socialism or liberalism.

BTW, so you don't think I did no want health care, I am for a "universal" health care in America.
 

Nehemiah6

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So you are suggesting that the Left wing hatred of Trump and his policies is matched by right-wing hatred? That is utter nonsense. There is absolutely no comparison, and it is a serious mistake to try and equalize the situation. This is one of the problems today, in that evil is not seen as evil by suggesting that the good is also evil.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Lemme throw something out here to try and illustrate a point

Ok quick show of hands ... how many here think that Nancy Pelosi was wrong to support the Obamacare bill without ever having read it?

Wow. looks like a smart group of people (my hand is up btw)

Ok, of those with their hands raised, how many of you opposed the Obamacare bill without ever having read it?

OH NO! Looks like a room full of cool-aid drinkers now.





Now, for bonus points, let's see how many totally missed the point responses and deflections we get...

reminds me of a tap that drips and drips and drips

you need attention but making noise is not helping you

try to focus
 

AdolfHipster

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Has anybody forgotten about this???? This isn't just for this clown, but for the Democrats as a whole.....Yeah sure, Republicans have problems, sure......but they sure haven't booed God......who's side you gonna stand on?
A broken clock is right twice a day...

At what point was the US ever a "Christian nation"? Was it back when slavery was allowed or more recently when homosexuals have the right to get married?
 

AdolfHipster

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oh but we do remember

did you miss the post where I addressed some of the last years?


Originally Posted by RickyZ

The republicans stonewalled and stymied Obummer at every. single. opportunity. they had. Didn't matter what the actual issue was, if it was from Obummer it got stonewalled.

You guys gotta stop smoking dope. It's affecting your short term memory.




like Ocare?

you mean if you want to know what is in it just pass it?

you mean that particular disaster that punished people who were too poor to pay for the MANDATED healthcare?

or do you possibly mean the Iran deal?

or maybe the lack of Christians being allowed into the US while Muslims were cultivated and allowed in with impunity...?

or maybe you mean all the LACK of legislaton enacted by mr community organizer? he did have a pen and phone after all

or how about the Chrysler bailout in which he violated the constitution's Takings and Due Process clauses by forcing the secured creditors to take 30 cents on the dollar? of course you would see these people as fat cats...but still...they were LEGAL fat cats whether or not you like it

or how about the political profiling done at the IRS?

or how about Obamas 'recess appointments'? FYI, in 2014, the Supreme Court ruled this activity was illegal

And DACA and DAPA? these are actually illegal and in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, immigration law AND the Constitutions 'Take Care' clause

and how about trying to regulate the internet? he infringed on the First Amendment rights of internet providers

and on and on and on and on and on

and of course let's remember the FISA warrant fiasco...

I understand you may actually approve of the some of the above...which barely scratches the surface of the illegality of Obama's presidency but there are laws to uphold the behavior of everyone in the country from the top down
While most of the non-bold is legit, you (and Trump) are absolutely wrong about net neutrality. I'm no defender of Obama, but as I do with Trump, you have to give the devil his due when he does something right and Obama totally got net neutrality right.

I mean, if we pay for 50mb/second internet speed, why should it be throttled to filter people away from a website?

I'm curious why you think net neutrality is an infringement on ISPs. Care to explain?
 

tourist

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Lately it seems the democrats are proving themselves to be more hateful and militant then republicans.
That's my take too. The Democrats also think that it is alright to end the life of the unborn as well and actively promote and protect this belief. Gay marriage OK too in their eyes and changing of one's sex. They seem to always promote that which is sick and twisted. They want to take care of us because apparently the average citizen is not capable of taking care of themselves.
 

AdolfHipster

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Lemme throw something out here to try and illustrate a point

Ok quick show of hands ... how many here think that Nancy Pelosi was wrong to support the Obamacare bill without ever having read it?

Wow. looks like a smart group of people (my hand is up btw)

Ok, of those with their hands raised, how many of you opposed the Obamacare bill without ever having read it?

OH NO! Looks like a room full of cool-aid drinkers now.





Now, for bonus points, let's see how many totally missed the point responses and deflections we get...
Hahahahahahaha! Oh boy... you will not be loved by the Republicans or Democrats by bringing logic and a mirror to show each side their hypocrisy. I applaud you.

What I found insane was how the Republicans were like "Hey, pass this 'phase' first, then we will move on to 'phase two'." Ummm no... how about we know what we are repealing and replacing before we do further damage? Isn't that what got us in trouble in the first place?! That is the very definition of insanity! :mad:
 

AdolfHipster

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For what it's worth, I think the left is noticeably more bold in their attack on Trump than the right was on Obama.

When Obama was elected, Republicans reached a new all time low in their attack of him. Hey, I can understand why though... there was plenty to attack... I remember right-wing Christians saying he was the Anti-Christ, that he was going to be assassinated, how his wife is a transgendered woman, how Obama is gay, etc... Maybe some of it is true or maybe not... the point is, a president had never been treated the way Obama has until he was elected president of the US... not even Bush was blasted that much. Democrats, now... are returning the favor at an even more bold approach. It's sort of like the, "If you hit me, I'll hit you harder" thing people do. I can only imagine how the right will treat the next Democrat president....
 
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I prefer to talk to people that are willing to listen.
 

Nehemiah6

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I prefer to talk to people that are willing to listen.
Were the Democrats "willing to listen" as the President -- at the SOTU -- presented some outstanding achievements for Americans (as well as some outstanding individual Americans)? They shut their ears, hearts, and minds to everything, and disrespected everyone and everything. Some even complained that he said "America" too many times! Why have they not all purchased one-way tickets to Cuba (which is so close)?
 
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Were the Democrats "willing to listen" as the President -- at the SOTU -- presented some outstanding achievements for Americans (as well as some outstanding individual Americans)? They shut their ears, hearts, and minds to everything, and disrespected everyone and everything. Some even complained that he said "America" too many times! Why have they not all purchased one-way tickets to Cuba (which is so close)?
Where did you see a complain about saying America too many times?
 

MichaelOwen

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For what it's worth, I think the left is noticeably more bold in their attack on Trump than the right was on Obama.

When Obama was elected, Republicans reached a new all time low in their attack of him. Hey, I can understand why though... there was plenty to attack... I remember right-wing Christians saying he was the Anti-Christ, that he was going to be assassinated, how his wife is a transgendered woman, how Obama is gay, etc... Maybe some of it is true or maybe not... the point is, a president had never been treated the way Obama has until he was elected president of the US... not even Bush was blasted that much. Democrats, now... are returning the favor at an even more bold approach. It's sort of like the, "If you hit me, I'll hit you harder" thing people do. I can only imagine how the right will treat the next Democrat president....
No offense, but you live in Germany....I think you should be more concerned about your problems than with ours at this point....your country is under a weak leadership from a VERY LIBERAL president, and it shows with your country now being overrun by Muslims....you don't have the guts to stand up to them or take back what is yours.....but that's ok, because you're in my prayers.
 

MichaelOwen

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Where did you see a complain about saying America too many times?
Their actions spoke louder than their words ever did. They don't have America's best interest at heart.
 

Dude653

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The buffoon in Chief is actually trying to accuse Democrats of treason for not applauding him