Was Adam and Eve a newer creation than genesis 1?

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lot of ASSUMPTIONS in this post.
Oh yes... I assumed that people would know which plutonium was referenced...it was plutonium-244 and the half-life is 82 million years actually....I think the years was a typo
 
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As my only reason for going into the field to save lives. A college degree and general education requirements seemed like a waste of time in my 50's.
Addictions is a complex field in and of itself,...... I think having the understanding of the research is helpful when helping people for sure.
School is never a waste of time if one is learning....however it sure can be a waste of money if one is not. LOL;)
 
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Simply do not agree.
Genesis 1 is a very different account and sequence to genesis 2 -
and there is no doctrinal reason to believe in young earth creation.
references to the sabbath day as a seventh day can be a temporal expression of the creation timescale for our earthly reality.
Same difference same outcome . Misunderstanding of the creation chronicle (Genesis 1 ) and development (Genesis 2 ) just leads to other doctrines like falling backward . No biblical foundation.
 
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Oh yes... I assumed that people would know which plutonium was referenced...it was plutonium-244 and the half-life is 82 million years actually....I think the years was a typo
No, what you assumed is that there was ever plutonium on earth to begin with.

All radioactive materials are formed when electric currents flow through the earths crusts. Mostly found during major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. This has bene proven in the lab. And once again, ALL can be explained by the flood.

The other assumption is the rate of decay of all materials is the same today as it always has been, Since there were no scientists 4000 years ago. Your just at best guessing.
 
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Addictions is a complex field in and of itself,...... I think having the understanding of the research is helpful when helping people for sure.
School is never a waste of time if one is learning....however it sure can be a waste of money if one is not. LOL;)
Sadly many have earned, and can not find jobs..
 

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Addictions is a complex field in and of itself,...... I think having the understanding of the research is helpful when helping people for sure.
School is never a waste of time if one is learning....however it sure can be a waste of money if one is not. LOL;)
To me getting to work was more important than statistics, Windows 7 and English comp. I'm glad it did it.
 
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If we look at this, Look how lifespans were almost average pre-flood. And how post flood, They gradually decreased unto what we have today, Which based on medical science is greater than 100 years ago. But yet no where near the flood. We see the sign of the results of the fall, and the flood first hand. We also witness that something changed when the flood occurred, The earth Noah’s grandchildren saw looked or resembled in sight or conditions NOTHING like what Noah knew pre-flood. It is actually sad, Imagine noah knowing the difference, and how hard that was for him. And his children.
 
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Very one dimensional - melanin is not the foundation of human variety - human groups have much more variety in their
biological differences than just melanin content
and there are humans that are truly black and humans that are truly white
but human variety is more than external appearances.

And salvation is not dependent on there being only one human group all descended from Adam and Eve.
Back to Genesis with Ken Ham and my favorite Gary Parker would make a good study for you.

Biological differences within kinds do not affect created kinds anymore than the different rendering chapter 1 and 2 to the one creation account .6, 24 hours days. This includes angels one kind of creation, and human kind another. One not subject to salvation the other kind prepared to hear the gospel . Human kind does not mix with plant kind any more than serpent kind.

No fear of being attacked by killer tomatoes.

We are to know no man after the corrupted flesh of mankind which includes the Son of man typified as sinful. (Romans 8) Some did know him that way but that one time demonstration is over and we are commanded we know him that way never again..(2 Corinthians 5:16)

God is not a man as us

God creates after kinds. Flesh and blood as rudiments of this world will not enter the new order. . You can mix it up biological differences but in the end its still mankind .No kind as the outer space kind the non human kind..

Can't find God under a microscope anymore than falling backward.

Genesis 8:19Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark.

We are warned of those who glory in the flesh (wonder seekers) yet refuse to hear prophecy . But rather make it about the philosophies of men what the eyes see . They are identified as those who fall backward.

We must be careful how we hear, what we hear and as instructed in Hebrews 4 then we can enter His rest when we mix it with eternal faith.

Colossians 2:8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
 
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Similarities & Differences that share a common unseen truth make up the signified language of God, His signature.

Without parables Christ spoke not hiding the unseen understanding from natural man. .

Chapter 11 comes as the last day no more seals, no more trumpets the end has come Just as it written below .Judgment day for unbeliever, the reward of new incorruptible bodies for those who do believe. . . . . continuing in the same breath . A defining of the bride of Christ the church

Revelation 11-12 King James Version (KJV)And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, ( no more night the glory of the lord the light) and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Revelation 11compared to chapter 12 as different manner of interpretation working together to focusing on the bride. Same with Genesis 2. the focus of the gospel . . . . . . . . Christ creating a bride to be with forever.
 

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So Adam (and Eve) were formed 6,000 years ago in the area of modern Israel - two people
Then there was the great flood that Bible fundamentalists claim wiped out ALL of humankind worldwide bar eight people -
some 4,300+ years ago:
So how do we get from being a Semite (Aryan) to all the other human groups or races or kinds that now inhabit this planet
in a mere 4,000+ years?

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Are Bible six days fundamentalists now preaching Darwin and evolution??
Sure seems that way ...
 

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So Adam (and Eve) were formed 6,000 years ago in the area of modern Israel - two people
Then there was the great flood that Bible fundamentalists claim wiped out ALL of humankind worldwide bar eight people -
some 4,300+ years ago:
So how do we get from being a Semite (Aryan) to all the other human groups or races or kinds that now inhabit this planet
in a mere 4,000+ years?

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Are Bible six days fundamentalists now preaching Darwin and evolution??
Sure seems that way ...
You seem to be assuming that Noah was a "Semite". That's anachronistic, given that "Semite" means "descendant of Shem". Shem was Noah's son. You're also assuming that his daughters-in-law were genetically similar to him, when in fact they could have been quite diverse. I suggest you do some more research on the subject instead of presenting dogmatic assertions and loaded questions. Dr. Georgia Purdom (a geneticist) has some relevant videos available on YouTube.
 

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You have a lot of mistaken ideas in this matter so let's set the record straight.
So Adam (and Eve) were formed 6,000 years ago in the area of modern Israel - two people
The Garden of Eden was NOT located in modern or ancient Israel. It was located in what is now known as Iraq, where the four rivers mentioned in connection with Eden are still flowing.
Then there was the great flood that Bible fundamentalists claim wiped out ALL of humankind worldwide bar eight people - some 4,300+ years ago
This is NOT according to Bible fundamentalists, but according to the Bible itself. And also, according to Scripture, only eight souls survived. SO DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE?
So how do we get from being a Semite (Aryan) to all the other human groups or races or kinds that now inhabit this planet in a mere 4,000+ years?
Semites are not Aryans. Noah's three sons were the ancestors of all the human ethnic groups -- SHEM (Semites), HAM (Hamites), and Japheth (Japhethites, from among whom the ancient Aryans came). YOU ARE FORGETTING GOD'S HAND IN THE CREATION OF THE ETHNIC GROUPS. But God does not need 4,000 years for something He can do overnight. He spoke the worlds into existence.
 

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You have a lot of mistaken ideas in this matter so let's set the record straight.

The Garden of Eden was NOT located in modern or ancient Israel. It was located in what is now known as Iraq, where the four rivers mentioned in connection with Eden are still flowing.

This is NOT according to Bible fundamentalists, but according to the Bible itself. And also, according to Scripture, only eight souls survived. SO DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE?
Semites are not Aryans. Noah's three sons were the ancestors of all the human ethnic groups -- SHEM (Semites), HAM (Hamites), and Japheth (Japhethites, from among whom the ancient Aryans came). YOU ARE FORGETTING GOD'S HAND IN THE CREATION OF THE ETHNIC GROUPS. But God does not need 4,000 years for something He can do overnight. He spoke the worlds into existence.
Genesis 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; THE ADAMIC SOULS
Genesis 7:14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
Genesis 7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, TWO AND TWO OF ALL FLESH, WHEREIN IS THE BREATH OF LIFE.
Genesis 7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.
Genesis 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
Genesis 7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

GOD does do anything, yet all He did here was "call" two from every "ethnos", wherein is the breath of Life. just like He did all the rest.
 
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No, what you assumed is that there was ever plutonium on earth to begin with.

All radioactive materials are formed when electric currents flow through the earths crusts. Mostly found during major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. This has bene proven in the lab. And once again, ALL can be explained by the flood.

The other assumption is the rate of decay of all materials is the same today as it always has been, Since there were no scientists 4000 years ago. Your just at best guessing.
There are trace amounts of plutonium, however, the fact that it is down to trace amounts means it has decayed, over the years which is what happens to isotopes.

Young earth people try to solve this problem by speeding up the rate of decay.....however the scientific evidence is that the rate of isotope decay has been constant and is resistant to change.

In fact when the rate of decay is accelerated the heat and energy reproduced would destroy the earth's crust.
 

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Genesis 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; THE ADAMIC SOULS
Genesis 7:14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
Genesis 7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, TWO AND TWO OF ALL FLESH, WHEREIN IS THE BREATH OF LIFE.
Genesis 7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.
Genesis 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
Genesis 7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

GOD does do anything, yet all He did here was "call" two from every "ethnos", wherein is the breath of Life. just like He did all the rest.
Verse 15 is referring to animals, not to humans. How do you get "ethnos" (a Greek word) from Genesis 7, which was written in Hebrew? (Don't bother citing the Septuagint, because it isn't there either)
 

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GOD does do anything, yet all He did here was "call" two from every "ethnos", wherein is the breath of Life. just like He did all the rest.
I am not sure what your point is but there is no doubt that only eight souls (human souls or human beings) were saved out of Noah's Flood. Noah and his three sons + all their wives.

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (1 Peter 3:20)

It is significant to note that within the genealogies of the three sons of Noah, all the nations and ethnic groups we know about are included. Also God deliberately made very brief references to all the other nations since His focus would be on the line from Shem to Christ. Messiah descended from Adam through Seth and Noah and then as below:

SHEM---->EBER---->ABRAHAM---->ISAAC--->JACOB---->JUDAH---->DAVID----->JESUS
 
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So Adam (and Eve) were formed 6,000 years ago in the area of modern Israel - two people
Then there was the great flood that Bible fundamentalists claim wiped out ALL of humankind worldwide bar eight people -
some 4,300+ years ago:
So how do we get from being a Semite (Aryan) to all the other human groups or races or kinds that now inhabit this planet
in a mere 4,000+ years?

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Are Bible six days fundamentalists now preaching Darwin and evolution??
Sure seems that way ...

God creates after kinds mankind is one
 

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Because the genealogy of Jesus Christ was the whole point of the fallen angels mixing to pollute it, to foil Gods Plan, I know the Word says it was the whole world, but I wonder if someday we will find something in there that says it was just the whole "part" of that world covering just that seed line that flooded.
I am not sure what your point is but there is no doubt that only eight souls (human souls or human beings) were saved out of Noah's Flood. Noah and his three sons + all their wives.

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (1 Peter 3:20)

It is significant to note that within the genealogies of the three sons of Noah, all the nations and ethnic groups we know about are included. Also God deliberately made very brief references to all the other nations since His focus would be on the line from Shem to Christ. Messiah descended from Adam through Seth and Noah and then as below:

SHEM---->EBER---->ABRAHAM---->ISAAC--->JACOB---->JUDAH---->DAVID----->JESUS
I do apologize for the information. Here is a cheek, if you need the other one, it is yours also. I think I knew before I even hit post reply, my fault, my bad judgment.