Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

She really did that?

When one embraces a liar that belittles Jesus, disregards truth, skews truth, denies the power and promises of Christ, denies eternal security etc....states a plethora about their character....another fraud!

 

[EleventhHour]

She really did that?

Yes

 

[dcontroversal]

I am not understanding the support......he teaches a horrible horrible theory.

Guilt by association is in the bible......and calling evil good is also in the bible!! So are the consequences

 

[EleventhHour]

I posted directly to PS in a different posting that you may not have seen as yet concerning that very thing.
I get the feeling you're going to start being stingy with the bread and soup.

I think you should retract your support and unequivocally preach a clear gospel to @PS and make it clear to him he is absolutely wrong in what he espouses.

 

[EleventhHour]

my point- you have no business calling out others for being harsh when you yourself are calling folks stupid.

Agree

 

[Whispered]

I am not understanding the support......he teaches a horrible horrible theory.

I think if you pay attention to what I've addressed to them in my other post you will reconsider thinking I am posting wholesale support.

I have never been one of those jump on the bandwagon gang sort. Just because everyone else thinks this or that about a person, in this case PS's personal doctrine, does not mean I align with that group as well.
If someone is posting false teachings, false doctrine, perhaps rather than laying into them, that is not to refer to you, it is a generalization, what is the proper method is to do as Christ instructed and exampled Himself. Endeavor to lead them to proper understanding. And yet, be aware there are blind guides in this world.
And there are Denominations who's teachings are a reflection of that.
Consider this. As devout as you are to your understanding of our Father's words, and defend what you understand and believe. So too are there others who do the same, even when they are judged in error.
Why is this so? Why are they wrong? Pastors today were the Shepherds of yesteryear. Their duty is to lead the lost sheep into the fold by ministering the proper call what hearkens the soul to seek peace and freedom in the Truth.
And yet, look at all those Denominations and their Shepherds that teach from the New Testament and yet are judged as leading their flock astray.
And yet, they still have a flock. And any one of those would defend what they believe, due to what they've been taught. When it is in error or otherwise.

It is a powerful thing to feel called to speak for and of the King of Heaven and the creator of all that is, was, or shall be. And it is a powerful teaching within that New Testimony of the New Covenant the King made with the worlds people that is one wherein it is conveyed, that individual's immortal soul will either enter glory or suffer for eternity, if they do not believe.
Now, with eternity of one's soul on the line, is it hard to imagine someone who holds fast to the faith, understanding, teaching, they've received concerning that eternal destiny of the faithful, will not only defend what they believe, because we hold our faith as a personal reflection of our own capacity to understand, but shall also be reluctant to accept that which is presented as contrary to it.

If it is false doctrine that is held true, that faithful one may not be aware. After all, and this speaks to those who are sincere and committed to faith, they first accepted they are a sinner doomed to die and suffer eternally if they do not believe. Therefore, for the individual to then be told their understanding is in error can cause a great deal of personal angst and fear. Because of what is on the line; their eternal soul.

The individual who is true of heart and sincere here , even when they are following errant teaching and misplaced understanding of the word, deserves to be corrected, as we're told is the purpose of scripture.
I do not believe they deserve to be verbally abused due to the judgment that arrives upon them and that believes they are following a false teaching, and as such rather than exercise patience and understanding of a reticence to accept that and adopt a new line of thought, again, given what is on the line, resort to abusive posturing and language.
What does that behavior example when it's excused as deserved by the one to whom it is addressed? And is defended to be a means of correcting wrong understanding.
How does one lead a person to proper understanding of the Good News, when they in the course of pursuing that act like the Devil. Would that example communicate a superior knowledge, the correct understanding of the Doctrine of Christ, when the profile exhibited appears to be in need of Christ?

False teachers are aplenty on the net. So too are those who pose the part and behave in a way that leads to our recollection of the many parables of Christ in which we're told, we shall know one another by our fruits.
Rotted fruit does not paint a picture for what is said to be a healthy orchard.

 

[Lightskin]

Hahhaahhaha you would not know the truth if it was in front of you, spelled out and in easily understood pictures....

The king of annoyance stated grace is from the Holy Spirit and yet he conveniently ignored the post seeking confirmation through the Bible. Funny how that works.

 

[dcontroversal]

The king of annoyance stated grace is from the Holy Spirit and yet he conveniently ignored the post seeking confirmation through the Bible. Funny how that works.

And red x'ed me saying Grace comes from Jesus......it is obvious that he is a hypocrite and some here are enabling his blather!

 

[Whispered]

I think you should retract your support and unequivocally preach a clear gospel to @PS and make it clear to him he is absolutely wrong in what he espouses.

I think you should read my posting in the Torah thread that was addressed to them.

If PS has read me at all, they already know what I believe, and just as you do with your personal faith, know to be the Truth of God in Christ.
If you expect me to align with the lot that assail the beliefs of PS, this will not happen.
If someone is following false teachings, the last thing in the world that will lead them to change their mind are those who act as if they know not the basics of Christ's instructions concerning our duty to example His grace in all things.
And yes, we're to correct false understanding. And yes, the dedicated Troll on any Christian forum shall meet their fate and be judged by God in time.
Some are really easy to spot. Others who may be thought a Troll could actually be one who is defending what we judge to be errant understanding of the Word, because they were taught that by one who did not know the true Gospel. Many a Denomination are out there doing that very thing.

The point being, we're to example Christ, Christ-like, in all things. Who are we to tell someone they don't know the Truth when our behavior makes it appear as if we do not either?

I'll make my own soup. I have cans and a can opener.

Just as we judge others, God shall judge us. And we all shall answer for every word. The Book of Matthew chapter 12.

 

[Lightskin]

The "church" is the Body of Christ, not a denomination nor a building. If one belongs to Christ, they are part of the church.

This was Red X’d . . .
Next thing you know our little miscreant troll will refute water being wet.

 

[EleventhHour]

I think if you pay attention to what I've addressed to them in my other post you will reconsider thinking I am posting wholesale support.

I have never been one of those jump on the bandwagon gang sort. Just because everyone else thinks this or that about a person, in this case PS's personal doctrine, does not mean I align with that group as well.
If someone is posting false teachings, false doctrine, perhaps rather than laying into them, that is not to refer to you, it is a generalization, what is the proper method is to do as Christ instructed and exampled Himself. Endeavor to lead them to proper understanding. And yet, be aware there are blind guides in this world.
And there are Denominations who's teachings are a reflection of that.
Consider this. As devout as you are to your understanding of our Father's words, and defend what you understand and believe. So too are there others who do the same, even when they are judged in error.
Why is this so? Why are they wrong? Pastors today were the Shepherds of yesteryear. Their duty is to lead the lost sheep into the fold by ministering the proper call what hearkens the soul to seek peace and freedom in the Truth.
And yet, look at all those Denominations and their Shepherds that teach from the New Testament and yet are judged as leading their flock astray.
And yet, they still have a flock. And any one of those would defend what they believe, due to what they've been taught. When it is in error or otherwise.

It is a powerful thing to feel called to speak for and of the King of Heaven and the creator of all that is, was, or shall be. And it is a powerful teaching within that New Testimony of the New Covenant the King made with the worlds people that is one wherein it is conveyed, that individual's immortal soul will either enter glory or suffer for eternity, if they do not believe.
Now, with eternity of one's soul on the line, is it hard to imagine someone who holds fast to the faith, understanding, teaching, they've received concerning that eternal destiny of the faithful, will not only defend what they believe, because we hold our faith as a personal reflection of our own capacity to understand, but shall also be reluctant to accept that which is presented as contrary to it.

If it is false doctrine that is held true, that faithful one may not be aware. After all, and this speaks to those who are sincere and committed to faith, they first accepted they are a sinner doomed to die and suffer eternally if they do not believe. Therefore, for the individual to then be told their understanding is in error can cause a great deal of personal angst and fear. Because of what is on the line; their eternal soul.

The individual who is true of heart and sincere here , even when they are following errant teaching and misplaced understanding of the word, deserves to be corrected, as we're told is the purpose of scripture.
I do not believe they deserve to be verbally abused due to the judgment that arrives upon them and that believes they are following a false teaching, and as such rather than exercise patience and understanding of a reticence to accept that and adopt a new line of thought, again, given what is on the line, resort to abusive posturing and language.
What does that behavior example when it's excused as deserved by the one to whom it is addressed? And is defended to be a means of correcting wrong understanding.
How does one lead a person to proper understanding of the Good News, when they in the course of pursuing that act like the Devil. Would that example communicate a superior knowledge, the correct understanding of the Doctrine of Christ, when the profile exhibited appears to be in need of Christ?

False teachers are aplenty on the net. So too are those who pose the part and behave in a way that leads to our recollection of the many parables of Christ in which we're told, we shall know one another by our fruits.
Rotted fruit does not paint a picture for what is said to be a healthy orchard.

I cannot agree at all.
We have all tried to correct @PS..... when a person resists and pushes a false ideology then he is the false teacher and how does anyone compromise with someone who denigrates Christ?
The style of delivery is not the issue ...it is warranted with some people.

 

[Lightskin]

And red x'ed me saying Grace comes from Jesus......it is obvious that he is a hypocrite and some here are enabling his blather!

He’s not here to learn, he’s merely here to sow discord and seeds of ungodly falsehood.

 

[dcontroversal]

I think you should read my posting in the Torah thread that was addressed to them.

If PS has read me at all, they already know what I believe, and just as you do with your personal faith, know to be the Truth of God in Christ.
If you expect me to align with the lot that assail the beliefs of PS, this will not happen.
If someone is following false teachings, the last thing in the world that will lead them to change their mind are those who act as if they know not the basics of Christ's instructions concerning our duty to example His grace in all things.
And yes, we're to correct false understanding. And yes, the dedicated Troll on any Christian forum shall meet their fate and be judged by God in time.
Some are really easy to spot. Others who may be thought a Troll could actually be one who is defending what we judge to be errant understanding of the Word, because they were taught that by one who did not know the true Gospel. Many a Denomination are out there doing that very thing.

The point being, we're to example Christ, Christ-like, in all things. Who are we to tell someone they don't know the Truth when our behavior makes it appear as if we do not either?

I'll make my own soup. I have cans and a can opener.

Just as we judge others, God shall judge us. And we all shall answer for every word. The Book of Matthew chapter 12.

The above drivel is exactly that.....not biblical either.....thanks for confiming to all what you really believe!.....

Guilt by association!!!

 

[Judges1318]

Yes. It was a bit scary for me. I really don't enjoy going underwater and that feeling of the water going into my ears got me feeling some anxiety to be honest.

Okay.
How about have you prayed for your spiritual gift?

Right, what point are you trying to make?

I'm chiming in on what you said in your post.
You were making a good point.

 

[EleventhHour]

I think you should read my posting in the Torah thread that was addressed to them.

If PS has read me at all, they already know what I believe, and just as you do with your personal faith, know to be the Truth of God in Christ.
If you expect me to align with the lot that assail the beliefs of PS, this will not happen.
If someone is following false teachings, the last thing in the world that will lead them to change their mind are those who act as if they know not the basics of Christ's instructions concerning our duty to example His grace in all things.
And yes, we're to correct false understanding. And yes, the dedicated Troll on any Christian forum shall meet their fate and be judged by God in time.
Some are really easy to spot. Others who may be thought a Troll could actually be one who is defending what we judge to be errant understanding of the Word, because they were taught that by one who did not know the true Gospel. Many a Denomination are out there doing that very thing.

The point being, we're to example Christ, Christ-like, in all things. Who are we to tell someone they don't know the Truth when our behavior makes it appear as if we do not either?

I'll make my own soup. I have cans and a can opener.

Just as we judge others, God shall judge us. And we all shall answer for every word. The Book of Matthew chapter 12.

I disagree....you have no idea of the damage a false teacher can do....believe me it's a problem.

Being Christlike is not compromising

 

[Lightskin]

I'm seeing an atheist parading as a Christian, while at the same time leading people away from the saviour.

Atheists don’t proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Try again.

 

[dcontroversal]

The bible is clear.....Moses was clear.....You either stand on the side of truth or you stand with Korah........

guilt by association...

 

[dcontroversal]

I disagree....you have no idea of the damage a false teacher can do....believe me it's a problem.

Being Christlike is not compromising

Amen....stand with truth regardless of personality or join hand in hand with evil and those that teach a heritical dogma.....

 

[Lightskin]

I'm chuckling to myself. Thank you.

You do a lot of things to yourself while spreading heretical falsehoods. You won’t be chuckling very long

 

[CherieR]

Okay.
How about have you prayed for your spiritual gift?

I have. I prayed asking what my spiritual gift is because I wasn't sure. Even taken online tests. However I think the proof of gifts is in life not an online test.