I once had a best friend named Michael, does that count? 
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Jesus being Michael the archangel
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I have a best friend named Jesus. That DEFINITELY counts big-time.
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Your words above seem to be addressing some other person-s opinions for they are not mine. Please if you are so well qualified to comment at least comment on what I have posted and not what someone has posted about me.
There is but one El, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
If you continue to accuse me of not following Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior I must put you with those same ones who accused our Lord.d
Your words above seem to be addressing some other person-s opinions for they are not mine. Please if you are so well qualified to comment at least comment on what I have posted and not what someone has posted about me.
There is but one El, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
If you continue to accuse me of not following Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior I must put you with those same ones who accused our Lord.d
Well, though there are many reasons as others have already pointed out, here is one more:
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The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. 4So He became as far superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is excellent beyond theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God ever say:
“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father” ?
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The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. 4So He became as far superior to the angels as the name He has inherited is excellent beyond theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God ever say:
“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father” ?
Dearest LeeLoving. . . in the OT, both God and Jesus revealed themselves at different times. When it was the Person of God the Father we call it a Theophany, and when it was the pre-incarnate Person of Jesus, we call it a Christophany. Whenever someone received a visit from “the angel of the Lord,” this was the pre-incarnate Christ. The angel of the Lord is not Michael. You can read a bit about this subject here.
Hello LeeLoving!
The claim of Michael the archangel as being Jesus, is a Mormon belief. Likewise, the JW's believe that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Both are wrong. They believe in another Jesus and another gospel, which is no gospel at all.
Michael the archangel, though mighty, is a created being. No created being could pay the penalty for the sins of mankind. Only God alone who is Holy could do so. Furthermore, scripture states that all things, whether in heaven or on earth, were created by Jesus and for Him.
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The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
And God the Father speaking about the Son, He says:
“In the beginning, O Lord, You laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garmenth they will be changed; but You remain the same, and Your years will never end.”
The claim of Michael the archangel as being Jesus, is a Mormon belief. Likewise, the JW's believe that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Both are wrong. They believe in another Jesus and another gospel, which is no gospel at all.
Michael the archangel, though mighty, is a created being. No created being could pay the penalty for the sins of mankind. Only God alone who is Holy could do so. Furthermore, scripture states that all things, whether in heaven or on earth, were created by Jesus and for Him.
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The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
And God the Father speaking about the Son, He says:
“In the beginning, O Lord, You laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garmenth they will be changed; but You remain the same, and Your years will never end.”
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Hello Caprice84!
Just fyi, Jesus never appears in the person of God the Father. Though they are one God, they are also individual persons. This is evident in many scriptures, as follows:
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"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness"
"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man (Jesus), a coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
One like the Son of Man = Jesus
The Ancient of Days = God the Father
"As soon as Jesus came up out of the water, He saw the heavens breaking open and the Spirit descending on Him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”
"Then a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and a voice came from the cloud: “This is My beloved Son. Listen to Him!”
"Then I saw a Lamb who appeared to have been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which represent the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. And He came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One seated on the throne.
The Lamb who appeared to have been slain = Jesus
The One seated on the throne = God the Father
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Jesus never speaks in the person of God the Father, but speaks as himself as being God, both the Father and the Son being in agreement. As you can see, the scriptures above demonstrate God the Father and Jesus as the Son, as being individual persons, yet they are one God.
Just fyi, Jesus never appears in the person of God the Father. Though they are one God, they are also individual persons. This is evident in many scriptures, as follows:
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"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness"
"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man (Jesus), a coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
One like the Son of Man = Jesus
The Ancient of Days = God the Father
"As soon as Jesus came up out of the water, He saw the heavens breaking open and the Spirit descending on Him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”
"Then a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and a voice came from the cloud: “This is My beloved Son. Listen to Him!”
"Then I saw a Lamb who appeared to have been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which represent the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. And He came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One seated on the throne.
The Lamb who appeared to have been slain = Jesus
The One seated on the throne = God the Father
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Jesus never speaks in the person of God the Father, but speaks as himself as being God, both the Father and the Son being in agreement. As you can see, the scriptures above demonstrate God the Father and Jesus as the Son, as being individual persons, yet they are one God.
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You started off with "So Jesus is not Michael the archangel?"
The word "aggelos' translated as 'angel' means 'a messenger,' most of the time referring to a heavenly being, but can also refer to a human messenger depending on the context. Therefore, 'an angel of the Lord' would be a heavenly being sent to deliver a message on behalf of the Lord.
The word "aggelos' translated as 'angel' means 'a messenger,' most of the time referring to a heavenly being, but can also refer to a human messenger depending on the context. Therefore, 'an angel of the Lord' would be a heavenly being sent to deliver a message on behalf of the Lord.