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eternally-gratefull

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In one hundred years, the English language will not sound the same as it does today. Do we continue to update the Bible to fit the everchanging language? That is absurd.
Yeah we do,

otherwise what we have is an intelligible bible which can not be read by the masses
 
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I'm not certain there was a completed, perfect Bible before 1611. Was God preserving his words? Absolutely! The fulness of time...
Then you should readily show us what bible that was.

if you can’t, your whole case is destroyed
 

John146

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Then you should readily show us what bible that was.

if you can’t, your whole case is destroyed
How? You haven't been listening. God promised to preserve his words and he did. His words were completed, placed in a bible in 1611. The fulness of time had come...

Where was Jesus before the cross? He was being made perfect...
 

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I'm not certain there was a completed, perfect Bible before 1611. Was God preserving his words? Absolutely! The fulness of time...
Then how could the KJV be perfect, being based on what you assume to be imperfect texts? You make no sense.
 

John146

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Then how could the KJV be perfect, being based on what you assume to be imperfect texts? You make no sense.
God's hand made sure his words were perfectly preserved and completed. Don't leave God out of the picture.
 

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In one hundred years, the English language will not sound the same as it does today. Do we continue to update the Bible to fit the everchanging language? That is absurd.
Riddle me this, Batman: why, when Hebrew was the language of the Jews, was the entire New Testament written in Greek?

Simple: because Greek was the common language in Judea at that time!

You call "absurd" what I call common sense. I call your position absurd.
 

Dino246

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I believe God has preserved and completed his word in the KJV, therefore, all other versions would be corrupt since they contain different words and different truths. Only one version can be the holy word of God for this very reason. The KJV can be translated into any other language, however, I would hesitate to call any other version the holy perfect word of God.
You have made this a justification for the KJV instead of answering the question.

Please answer the question as I asked it.
 

Dino246

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We who believe the King James Bible to be the inerrant word of God do not place our trust in the King James translators. We do not defend their comments in the Preface, nor their theology, though I agree with much of it. We trust in God alone Who has fulfilled His promises to preserve His inspired words. He just happened to use the believing men of the 1611 Holy Bible as His instruments to continue this preservation.

They were not perfect nor without error in themselves. Just as God used Peter, though he denied the Lord and later separated himself from the Gentile believers and was to be blamed for his actions, (See Galatians 2:12-14) or Paul who was about to offer another blood sacrifice to appease the Jewish law-keepers in Acts 21:26, or John who twice fell down to worship an angel and was rebuked for it (See Rev. 19:10 and 22:8-9). God always uses imperfect vessels for His glory; if He didn't, nothing would ever get done.
Similar reasoning is used by Catholics in support of the ex cathedra proclamations of the various popes. Your reasoning carries similar weight.

Here's the rub: the KJV translators used sections of Tyndale, which necessarily means that Tyndale was inspired. If Tyndale were inspired, then his version takes precedence over the KJV as being the inspired version in English.
 

Dino246

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God's hand made sure his words were perfectly preserved and completed. Don't leave God out of the picture.
You believe this against all evidence, and your belief renders you incapable of accepting the existence of errors in the KJV. Meanwhile, you vigorously attack other translations over nearly-identical issues. Such behaviour is deluded and hypocritical.
 

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Well I'm definitely not anti-KJV...and since it's open source I defer to it for most stuff these days.

As a child, I don't recall ever being a fan of it but back then I had a TNIrV lol
Then NKJV + TNIV then NASB and finally just use the KJV for most everything.

I'm at a new crossroads right now because of the added words to the KJV (and every English bible probably) for context. Can Greek even fully translate? Can any language fully translate to another?

Either way it's vain without the Lord opening your eyes to the text even if you had the original ten commandments. Though I do think that considering culture helps with scriptural understanding quite a bit as that is a part of the language spoken.

text fails, the Word does not.
 

John146

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You believe this against all evidence, and your belief renders you incapable of accepting the existence of errors in the KJV. Meanwhile, you vigorously attack other translations over nearly-identical issues. Such behaviour is deluded and hypocritical.
Thanks for your opinions...
 

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I had an app on my phone and ipad for bible but it stopped working for some reason
The childrens one was published by the nz bible society and called it the Big Little Bible.

I dont know why the bible societies are all into these apps as most young children dont have access to phones unless their parents are made of money.

I also was given this cardboard christmas tree produced by the bible society which was meant to be like an advent calendar with each decoration giving a qr code leading to a bible story. I thought what a waste of time and effort when you could just print the bible story or verses itself on the decoration.

Or read a real book.

the bible app on my phone I had to remove as it reverted to some dubious american translation. I hardly used it as I already have the BOOK.

Im currently reading an english paraphrase called Diary of a Disciple the gospel of luke its published by the scripture union and is actually quite good, its got a hardback binding and doodly cartoony illustrations kind of similar to Tom Gates series of tween books.

I think a paraphrase is what most people can read if they find a translation difficult. a lot of people dont speak or read greek or hebrew. Even the OT was first translated into Greek for those who couldnt read Hebrew, by the time many hebrews(jews) had lost their language. It was called the septugint.
 
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Well I'm definitely not anti-KJV...and since it's open source I defer to it for most stuff these days.

As a child, I don't recall ever being a fan of it but back then I had a TNIrV lol
Then NKJV + TNIV then NASB and finally just use the KJV for most everything.

I'm at a new crossroads right now because of the added words to the KJV (and every English bible probably) for context. Can Greek even fully translate? Can any language fully translate to another?

Either way it's vain without the Lord opening your eyes to the text even if you had the original ten commandments. Though I do think that considering culture helps with scriptural understanding quite a bit as that is a part of the language spoken.

text fails, the Word does not.
In a word for word. No English can not translate,

in a expanded word for word it would be possible.