THE TWO WITNESSES!!!
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What would you have me break one of these least commandments, and teach men so?
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
The ones that are led of the spirit they are not under the law.
But the rest of you that have not obeyed the words of Jesus, and don’t follow the lamb wherever he goeth, and have not forsaken all, and have not taken up your crosses and followed after Him, and have not become fishers of men. And still Labour for the meat which perisheth, and still serve Go mammon. Then you must put one day a week aside for the Lord, the Sabbath day.
That’s why Jesus said
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
He knew that not all could follow after him, He knew that not all could be led of the spirit. He had to keep all the commandments in place, because he couldn’t trust every one with this liberty that comes with the spirit, the ones that obey all his sayings and are free to follow the lamb whithersoever he goeth.
2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty.
But the ones that are led of the spirit every day becomes a Sabbath day.
Peter spoke the word and Ananias, and Sapphira his wife fell down dead. this is not break any commandments (thou shalt not kill) and yet he spoke the word and thy are dead.
This is the spirit of liberty this is following the lamb, this is how we are not under the law.
He could trust us, that have obeyed and are led of the spirit because we wouldn’t do any evil, because love Him with all are hearts and have obeyed.
But the rest of you that have not obeyed the words of Jesus, and don’t follow the lamb wherever he goeth, and have not forsaken all, and have not taken up your crosses and followed after Him, and have not become fishers of men. And still Labour for the meat which perisheth, and still serve mammon. you are un trust worthy, and that’s where the law comes in, and that’s where the low still counts.
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Matthew 19:16-21
(16) And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
(17) And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
(18) He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
(19) Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
(20) The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
(21) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
(16) And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
(17) And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
(18) He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
(19) Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
(20) The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
(21) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
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Romans 3:31
(31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:15-16
(15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
(16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 7:7
(7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Romans 7:12-14
(12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
(13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
(14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Galatians 3:21-24
(21) Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
(22) But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
(23) But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
(24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Romans 8:1-4
(1) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
(2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
(3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
(4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
(31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:15-16
(15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
(16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 7:7
(7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Romans 7:12-14
(12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
(13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
(14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Galatians 3:21-24
(21) Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
(22) But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
(23) But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
(24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Romans 8:1-4
(1) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
(2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
(3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
(4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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oh ok that makes more sense. we love you and will pray for you to continue in that then 
you might want to reread the book of Romans.
God's Blessings be upon you all, For its a new morning that the Lord has made!
Thanks be to GOD!
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you might want to reread the book of Romans.
God's Blessings be upon you all, For its a new morning that the Lord has made!
Thanks be to GOD!
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Do you find this strange.
How that lots of us pray on this website and say to the Lord show us the truth in bible prophecy concerning the end of the world and thy coming.
We go through verse upon verse line upon line, precept upon precept, diligently seeking the truth in the scripters.
But not many of us pray and say Lord show us the truth of the gospels, and the book of Acts concerning what shall we do, and how shall we go and how shall we live., and how shall we bring forth much fruit.
For it’s not bible prophecy alone that’s going to guide us, its not bible prophecy concerning the end of the world and His coming, that’s going to help us bring forth much fruit.
For the answer lies in the gospels and the book of Acts concerning how shall we live, and what shall we do, and how shall we go, and how shall we bring forth fruit.
Search the gospels and the book of Acts, verse upon verse line upon line precept upon precept, diligently seeking the truth to find out how shall we live, and what shall we do, and how shall we go, and how shall we bring forth much fruit.
I am also guilty of this.
Love from peter
How that lots of us pray on this website and say to the Lord show us the truth in bible prophecy concerning the end of the world and thy coming.
We go through verse upon verse line upon line, precept upon precept, diligently seeking the truth in the scripters.
But not many of us pray and say Lord show us the truth of the gospels, and the book of Acts concerning what shall we do, and how shall we go and how shall we live., and how shall we bring forth much fruit.
For it’s not bible prophecy alone that’s going to guide us, its not bible prophecy concerning the end of the world and His coming, that’s going to help us bring forth much fruit.
For the answer lies in the gospels and the book of Acts concerning how shall we live, and what shall we do, and how shall we go, and how shall we bring forth fruit.
Search the gospels and the book of Acts, verse upon verse line upon line precept upon precept, diligently seeking the truth to find out how shall we live, and what shall we do, and how shall we go, and how shall we bring forth much fruit.
I am also guilty of this.
Love from peter
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Gods sheep are not being hustled away from God.
He has gathered most of them all together in little folds called churches, and we know exactly where they are. God has a perfect plan.
He is going to raze up strong men of God called Christians to go in and get them.
But first he must find a place for them to go.
So he is going to raze up a worldwide church that is obedient to God and that can look after them and feed them correctly.
Keep you eye out to see which church it will be.
I think it could be this church .bibleprophecytruth.com they are a worldwide church but they have some doctoring that will be a hindrance, and I am trying to discuss it with them.
But if it is not them then God will raze up some other church.
Not that God dwelleth in buildings made with hands.
But He must put them somewhere, so he can teach them what they need to learn to go into the tribulation.
Love from peter
He has gathered most of them all together in little folds called churches, and we know exactly where they are. God has a perfect plan.
He is going to raze up strong men of God called Christians to go in and get them.
But first he must find a place for them to go.
So he is going to raze up a worldwide church that is obedient to God and that can look after them and feed them correctly.
Keep you eye out to see which church it will be.
I think it could be this church .bibleprophecytruth.com they are a worldwide church but they have some doctoring that will be a hindrance, and I am trying to discuss it with them.
But if it is not them then God will raze up some other church.
Not that God dwelleth in buildings made with hands.
But He must put them somewhere, so he can teach them what they need to learn to go into the tribulation.
Love from peter
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Revelation 14:6
(6) And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Revelation 14:12
(12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
(6) And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Revelation 14:12
(12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
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Laodicea,
I hate to break it to you but upon the appearance of those three angels will begin the death of all God's saints upon earth. the church will not be established as one world church. the Antichrist or beast with seven heads will rule and the false prophet will demand all to take the mark of the beast or be slain. this is when people will have to chose God or death of the body. read the whole section. it is not about a world wide church but a world wide genocide of Christians. why do you think it states: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”
Revelations 14
6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
8 And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon[f] is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me,[h] “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”
I hate to break it to you but upon the appearance of those three angels will begin the death of all God's saints upon earth. the church will not be established as one world church. the Antichrist or beast with seven heads will rule and the false prophet will demand all to take the mark of the beast or be slain. this is when people will have to chose God or death of the body. read the whole section. it is not about a world wide church but a world wide genocide of Christians. why do you think it states: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”
Revelations 14
6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
8 And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon[f] is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me,[h] “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”
“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”
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It is true that there will not be a one world church but God will have a people worldwide who will follow him and keep his commandments. Also God's people will go through the trouble cause they are the ones who give the message
Matthew 13:30
(30) Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:39
(39) The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
(16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Matthew 13:30
(30) Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:39
(39) The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
(16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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Revelations 22
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments,[g] that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But[h] outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments,[g] that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But[h] outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.