Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
KJV, I suppose. But who really cares. There are no such things as ghosts, so what is your point?

Phil 1:19 - for I know that through your prayers and God’s provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance.

Do you want to argue that "Spirit of Jesus Christ" should be "Ghost of Jesus Christ"??

BOO!!!

After you study the following...with proper Greek interpretation you may change your conclusion...re;...Spirit. I never argue in God;s word...I just allow scriptures to speak for itself.

I see. So you WILL argue that there is a "Ghost of Jesus Christ". That's just pitiful.

Well...we all must care...because The Holy Spirit is our comforter.

So now you're switching over to Spirit from Ghost??

Why don't you just admit that you know NOT correct Greek interpretation...of scriptures.

Baloney. There are excellents resources on the internet for understanding the Greek.

we can help;

No, you can't. I've seen your opinions. None of which can be found in Scripture.

Holy..."Ghost"...as used hundreds of times in scriptures is in error of interpretation...because......the Greek word....Pneuma...was improperly interpreted as ...Ghost.....properly it means...... Spirit.

Obviously you don't read posts before responding, or maybe more accurately, reacting to them.

I've NEVER supported the use of Ghost in Scripture. So you can save your breath. Or fingers.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Say WHAT? you said: "However, they still get to be priests and reign with Christ in non-resurrected form."

Where is this?

No, I never said that. NO believer will be in a mortal body when King Jesus sets up His kingdom on earth. ALL believers will be glorified when He comes back at the Second Advent. 1 Cor 15:23

This is what I've been saying all along. If there is a post where this "quote" appears, please point me to it. Thanks.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Why must you stash most all points into the ...argue...envelope.

What is your problem? Specifically.

Can't we discuss?
Can't we debate?
etc.

Read through the quote you responded to and point me to anything that resembles an argument.

I won't hold my breath.

btw, don't you understand what debate entails?

 

[DavidTree]

Say WHAT? you said: "However, they still get to be priests and reign with Christ in non-resurrected form."

Where is this?

Post #528 at the very top

 

[peldom10]

What is your problem? Specifically.


Read through the quote you responded to and point me to anything that resembles an argument.

I won't hold my breath.

btw, don't you understand what debate entails?

Please, you may not limit the point to any one of your posts.
That smacks of leftist transference.

 

[Mem]

Post #528 at the very top

I noticed that too. I think it was a formatting error that failed to show that it was Marilyn that said, "I said:..."

 

[FreeGrace2]

Post #528 at the very top

Well, I'll be! Thanks for the citation.

What is weird is that I searched backward to see that quote all the way to page 23 and post 441 and couldn't find the original post where it occurred.

Whenever you see "I said" followed by text, I was quoting myself for context to understand my response to the poster.

In the case of 528, I was responding to Marilyn. And she pointed out #2, which I clearly do NOT accept as truth, and I addressed her comments.

So, who knows where the original post is or went?

Anyhow, I absolutely reject that there will be any "non-resurrected" believers serving in the Millennial kingdom. It's not possible because all believers (those who belong to Him) will be glorified "when He comes back at the Second Advent (1 Cor 15:23).

I hope this clears up things. Thanks for pointing out my gaffe. I wish I could find the original post.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
What is your problem? Specifically.


Read through the quote you responded to and point me to anything that resembles an argument.

I won't hold my breath.

btw, don't you understand what debate entails?

Please, you may not limit the point to any one of your posts.
That smacks of leftist transference.

Thanks for your post, and your failure to answer any question. Says EVERYTHING.

 

[FreeGrace2]

DavidTree said:
Post #528 at the very top

I noticed that too. I think it was a formatting error that failed to show that it was Marilyn that said, "I said:..."

Well, that would explain why I couldn't find that "quote" in any of my posts all the way back to page 23.

 

[FreeGrace2]

I noticed that too. I think it was a formatting error that failed to show that it was Marilyn that said, "I said:..."

I found a messed up post from Marilyn, #500, where that came from. It does look like a formatting error on her part.

 

[Mem]

DavidTree said:
Post #528 at the very top

Well, that would explain why I couldn't find that "quote" in any of my posts all the way back to page 23.

It definitely appeared, to me, that you were quoting Marilyn's points, although the "I said:" caused me a couple of second looks.

 

[FreeGrace2]

It definitely appeared, to me, that you were quoting Marilyn's points, although the "I said:" caused me a couple of second looks.

Thanks for your sharp eye!

 

[DavidTree]

Well, I'll be! Thanks for the citation.

What is weird is that I searched backward to see that quote all the way to page 23 and post 441 and couldn't find the original post where it occurred.

Whenever you see "I said" followed by text, I was quoting myself for context to understand my response to the poster.

In the case of 528, I was responding to Marilyn. And she pointed out #2, which I clearly do NOT accept as truth, and I addressed her comments.

So, who knows where the original post is or went?

Anyhow, I absolutely reject that there will be any "non-resurrected" believers serving in the Millennial kingdom. It's not possible because all believers (those who belong to Him) will be glorified "when He comes back at the Second Advent (1 Cor 15:23).

I hope this clears up things. Thanks for pointing out my gaffe. I wish I could find the original post.

Blessing to you.

 

[DavidTree]

It definitely appeared, to me, that you were quoting Marilyn's points, although the "I said:" caused me a couple of second looks.

Thank You Mem,
I was not following Marilyn's post and just caught the "I said (Free2Grace) and took that straightforward as from him.

Since I have previously been aware of the thoughts of Free2Grace on Rev, i responded to him - for his benefit, just as i desire others to do for me, if & when i err in a sentence/statement or thought.
Great blessing to learn from each other in sharing the Word.

I do not see error as a major on here as some do UNLESS it is outright distortion/manipulation against Scripture.

Example: "God's Name not in the Bible" - just dwell on that as your mind reminds yourself of Christ, the Gospel and the Apostles words.

 

[Marilyn]

I said:
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Hi FG, That post was muddled up. It wasn`t me who said `I said,..

Sorry about the confusion.

 

[Marilyn]

#1 is obvious and stated.
#2 is a real misread of the verse. .

Sorry all, this post was a muddle. Not sure how it happened, though. I didn`t say those words.....

 

[Marilyn]

Please tell your husband that he is free to take me fishing as well - Do you see my picture?

Wow, yes David, well done there.

 

[Marilyn]

How can that be unless you reject 1 Peter 1:19-20?

"But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you," - 1 Peter 1:19-20 KJV

How can you interpet the OT without the NT unless you reject 2 Cor 3:14?

"But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ." - 2 Cor 3:14 KJV

Hi Jocund,

The OT speaks of Christ, and that is what is veiled from Israel in part now. However the Body of Christ revelation was not known before the Lord revealed it to the apostle Paul. (Eph. 3: 1 - 6)

 

[Marilyn]

OK - sounds Good so far, so please procede.
Here is my question(s) again:
Can you please post the scriptures where the LORD and/or His Apostles declare and instruct us of:
Christ descending to rapture a select group of (any of the following) His Sons/Saints/Bride/Church/Elect BEFORE His Second Coming thereby leaving behind Saints that must go thru great tribulation AND then His Second Coming for the Resurrection and rapture for another group of Saints.

Hi David,

It is important to really understand this specific point if you want to know the answer to your questions.

Let me give you an illustration to show you why. Say a native finds a rectangle bit of metal lying on the ground. He wonders what it is. He holds it up one way and then the other. Which way does it go or what is it for? Now along comes a person who is looking for that part of his car, for the bit of metal, is a door. So then it becomes clear that the door is a part of a larger thing that has a purpose and the door fits into the larger purpose.

So that is what is happening when people look at the rapture, the catching away. They think does this bit go here or there or what is it for? Only when we understand God`s great purpose in Christ then we can put the `catching away` in its proper place.

So...

1. God`s purpose is that all rulership, in every realm is to come under the Lord Jesus Christ. (Eph. 1: 10)
2. We know that the Lord made all things, every realm for Himself with authority positions. (Col. 1: 16)
3. We know that in every realm there has come rebellion - Lucifer in angelic realm, Satan in Universe, Man on the earth.
4. We know that the Lord is at the right hand of the Father building and maturing the Body of Christ. (Eph. 1: 20 - 23, 4: 11 - 16)
5. And we see that Christ has all authority and power and is given the authority to bring the judgments, (John 5: 27)

So where and when do you find the Lord, the supreme high court judge, and His Body, the heavenly court, bringing judgment upon the rebellious?

 

[FreeGrace2]

Hi FG, That post was muddled up. It wasn`t me who said `I said,..

Sorry about the confusion.

Interesting. It wasn't me either. I would never have stated point #2.