We are never to add our words to God's words to make our 'perspective' fit.
The LORD never mentioned 'baptism' in John 3:1-21
And we all know why because he made it clear for us "that which is flesh is flesh and that which is Spirit is spirit."
There is no interpretation necessary here = HE made it very plain and clear.
“We are never to add our words to God's words to make our 'perspective' fit.”
I agree we also aren’t to erase what’s there , that’s why I understand water baptism is what it is I don’t add to or erase anything.
“There is no interpretation necessary here = HE made it very plain and clear.”
yeah exactly he’s telling a guy who was just
water baptized he needs to also receive the
spirit. It’s basic he’s not telling him how a baby is born but how a believer is born
water and spirit
“I indeed have baptized you with
water:
but
he shall baptize you with the
Holy Ghost.”
Mark 1:8 KJV
“For John truly baptized with
water;
but
ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.”
Acts 1:5 KJV
that came to pass here
“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And
there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And
they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues,
as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Acts 2:1-4 KJV
after that
Water for remission and receiving the spirit
“Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall
receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
After that
“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and
preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way,
they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said,
See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said,
If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and
they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Acts 8:35-38 KJV
After that
“While Peter yet spake these words,
the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. …Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which
have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And
he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:44, 46-48 KJV
Water and spirit
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him,
How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
John 3:3-5 KJV
your right your supposed to let the other scriptures make the interpretation but I guess maybe Jesus was talking about natural childbirth which makes no sense or relevance with any other scriptures
This verse you are stuck on you should look at what other thkngs he said about soirit and flesh
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh;
and
that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
John 3:6 KJV
“
It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63 KJV
It has nothing to do with childbirth there would be no relevance In Any way to that , but he’s talking about baptism for remission and receiving the Holy Ghost like the church used to believe and agree upon the one baptism in Christ. Baptism for remission in his name and receiving the holy spirit from him that’s how one is born again remission of sins and receiving the spirit
