Was Jesus a victim of self aggrandizing suicide?
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If God himself would've come down to die for us, all existence would've ceased. That's why He sent Jesus for us. Now you can either be like Peter who denied the Truth but repented or you can follow the master liar who apparently has a grip on you. By the way, do you really trust what they show in national geographic or the history channel? Are you going to agree with the same people that approve of gay marriage and abortion that run those programs?
Do not be tossed to and fro by such winds of doctrine. Plant yourself on the Rock.
Do not be tossed to and fro by such winds of doctrine. Plant yourself on the Rock.
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God's aim from the beginning was to restore us to Adam's state of being priest and king caring for God's garden. He did this by teaching us priestliness and servant-kingship, to be led by Jesus our older brother and priest and king.
Revelation 1: and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father— to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
For this reason he took a human form and died and rose again.
Revelation 1: and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father— to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
For this reason he took a human form and died and rose again.
What does an omnipotent God need with glory and dominion.
Just when did all these needs that only men can fulfill.
You follow a loser who somehow lost dominion of all that was and now only has dominion of some.
That is back sliding and God is said not to back slide. Rethink friend or better said. Think.
Regards
DL
Just when did all these needs that only men can fulfill.
You follow a loser who somehow lost dominion of all that was and now only has dominion of some.
That is back sliding and God is said not to back slide. Rethink friend or better said. Think.
Regards
DL
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You are taking offence about God letting his Son die
1) How does this affect you negatively
2) Do you know how many people this humble act of a God has affected positively
The thing is there is no point arguing as with people like you!.. You claim to worship a more moral god than ours, but i wonder what kind of stupid god you serve. A god that will watch your kind burn and rot in HELL. Is a STUPID, CRUEL,PATHETIC, AND USELESS god.
I think you are a troll to Christian Sites, among the people who come here just to bring up irrelevant arguments, just to bring up trouble!. You are what the bible refers to as *INSTRUMENT OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS*
And by the way, this is for you .... Troll attempt= EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!
1) How does this affect you negatively
2) Do you know how many people this humble act of a God has affected positively
The thing is there is no point arguing as with people like you!.. You claim to worship a more moral god than ours, but i wonder what kind of stupid god you serve. A god that will watch your kind burn and rot in HELL. Is a STUPID, CRUEL,PATHETIC, AND USELESS god.
I think you are a troll to Christian Sites, among the people who come here just to bring up irrelevant arguments, just to bring up trouble!. You are what the bible refers to as *INSTRUMENT OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS*
And by the way, this is for you .... Troll attempt= EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!
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Jesus is not the father, He is the son. YHWH is the father. If Jesus was YHWH then everything would've ceased to be when He died on the cross. And if i may ask, why are you here to bash us? What are you trying to accomplish? Seriously, you're 61 and acting like that? you have nothing better to do? Sounds like a very resentful and unhappy person that did not appreciate life.
Interesting way to bring up a subject. At least you are not trying to hide.
John says "Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world". Jesus Christ was a sacrifice, not a suicide. In Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul
God planned from the beginning to have a perfect sacrifice to atone for mankinds sin, and this was the blood of Jesus Christ. God came down from heaven and died for us. But He needed a flesh body in which to perform the sacrifice. Thank you Jesus.
God Bless You
John says "Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world". Jesus Christ was a sacrifice, not a suicide. In Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul
God planned from the beginning to have a perfect sacrifice to atone for mankinds sin, and this was the blood of Jesus Christ. God came down from heaven and died for us. But He needed a flesh body in which to perform the sacrifice. Thank you Jesus.
God Bless You
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And yes, i'm not through with you, i have a piece of advice for you. You are 61 years old and you are going to die Pretty soon, i mean anytime from now. Death will come knocking at your door. So you better get your pitiful life from where it is, and take it into a better place. BY ACCEPTING CHRIST TODAY.YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED PRAYER..
AND YES ONCE MORE, YOU ARE A TROLL!!!!!!!!
AND YES ONCE MORE, YOU ARE A TROLL!!!!!!!!
The Godhead I know has no need for a hell.
He does not create rejects.
BTW. The Godhead does not demand worship either.
He thinks man belongs on his feet and not on his knees.
Don't forget, all his works are perfect.
Your God is the one who screws up everywhere.
Can't get out of heaven without Satan rebelling.
Can't get out of Eden without A & E rebelling.
Can't get out of Noah's day with genociding his perfect creations.
Quite the loser of a God you follow.
Regards
DL
Regards
DL
He does not create rejects.
BTW. The Godhead does not demand worship either.
He thinks man belongs on his feet and not on his knees.
Don't forget, all his works are perfect.
Your God is the one who screws up everywhere.
Can't get out of heaven without Satan rebelling.
Can't get out of Eden without A & E rebelling.
Can't get out of Noah's day with genociding his perfect creations.
Quite the loser of a God you follow.
Regards
DL
Regards
DL
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The thing is you're gonna get banned. What a pity, i wish you were gonna be here longer to recieve some words into your old and obviously misled life..
I think you have the spirit of that animal in ur avatar pic inside of you.. For real, you need deliverance!.. And if your stupid god cannot create anything, that means it was created. So you serve a god that was made by man?.
Anyways i have an explanation for all these.. YOU'RE A TROLL!!!!.......SIMPLE
I think you have the spirit of that animal in ur avatar pic inside of you.. For real, you need deliverance!.. And if your stupid god cannot create anything, that means it was created. So you serve a god that was made by man?.
Anyways i have an explanation for all these.. YOU'RE A TROLL!!!!.......SIMPLE
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you fail to see that free-will was designed for our benefit in the end. Because though satan used it to tempt us and we failed, God would use this same free-will to lead us to him willingly in the end. Having the joy of following a god who himself would not be tempted to take the easy route as you have done.
The difficult route is on your knees and satan teaches that that is not necessary and instead we can get away with just stealing the ambrosia. That is theft and sorcery.
Your position, besides being idolatry is also theft and sorcery if you want to have your cake and eat it.
We Christians are contented with humility before God.
Forgive us if we are not humble in front of you.
The difficult route is on your knees and satan teaches that that is not necessary and instead we can get away with just stealing the ambrosia. That is theft and sorcery.
Your position, besides being idolatry is also theft and sorcery if you want to have your cake and eat it.
We Christians are contented with humility before God.
Forgive us if we are not humble in front of you.
all the things you seek to have answered are there in the bible. i suggest you read it. Jesus is the son of God, if you seek proof, do not search for it on the internet, do not search for it in the sky. instead do as the bible suggest, repent of your sins and ask Jesus for help. only he can show you the kingdom of God. no one else can, and we certainly cannot argue or explain you into having faith and belief.
the bible is the word of God, written by men inspired by God. some of us have had experiences that later, when we read the bible defined it for us. you come asking questions and making arguments, based on your own understanding. do not lean on our understanding, you wouldn't accept it anyway. some of us have had experiences, you wouldn't accept those either as being true either. in the end, all we can do is testify to you about our faith in Jesus. in the hopes that you will seek him out.
if you want answers that will give you satisfaction and remove your doubt, simply get on your knees and say, God i come to you to repent my sins, Jesus please help me. then follow the spirit when it reveals itself in you. sounds simple doesn't it. give it a try. until you do all other discussion is simply a waste of your time. it however is not a waste of our time. for we who believe Jesus is the son of God, we have eternal life.
Duewell
seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened, ask and ye shall receive.
the bible is the word of God, written by men inspired by God. some of us have had experiences that later, when we read the bible defined it for us. you come asking questions and making arguments, based on your own understanding. do not lean on our understanding, you wouldn't accept it anyway. some of us have had experiences, you wouldn't accept those either as being true either. in the end, all we can do is testify to you about our faith in Jesus. in the hopes that you will seek him out.
if you want answers that will give you satisfaction and remove your doubt, simply get on your knees and say, God i come to you to repent my sins, Jesus please help me. then follow the spirit when it reveals itself in you. sounds simple doesn't it. give it a try. until you do all other discussion is simply a waste of your time. it however is not a waste of our time. for we who believe Jesus is the son of God, we have eternal life.
Duewell
seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened, ask and ye shall receive.