Trinity mystery

Fundaamental · May 2, 2023

The three persons of the trinity I have detailed each person in each verse in brackets

Hebrews 10 :11-14
11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down (Jesus) at the right hand of God (The father) 13 and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. 14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

gen 1.1
In the beginning, God (The Father) created the heavens and the earth.

gen 1.26
26 Then God (The Father) said, “Let us make man in our image (our = more than person), after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

gen3.22
Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us (more than one person) in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”

Gen 11.7
7 Come, let us go down = more than one person us 2 or 3 persons coming down to correct man.

Isiah 6.8.
And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” Then I said, “Here I am! Send me.”
Isiah 48.16.
Draw near to me, hear this:

from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,

from the time it came to be I have been there.”

And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit.
Isiah 61.1.
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me,

because the Lord has anointed me

to bring good news to the poor;

he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,

to proclaim liberty to the captives,

and the opening of the prison to those
mathew 3.16-17…
6 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (The holy spirit) and coming to rest on him; 17 and behold, a voice from heaven (The father said, “This is my beloved Son (Jesus), with whom i am
Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,.(3 persons)
2 Corinthians 13:14 (ESV)
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God The Father) and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
2 Corinthians 13:14 3 persons (ESV)
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Pilgrimshope said:

You mean what was actually decided at the councils?

The west has lost this and now only has traditions of men.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Fundaamental said:

The three persons of the trinity I have detailed each person in each verse in brackets

Hebrews 10 :11-14
11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down (Jesus) at the right hand of God (The father) 13 and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. 14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

gen 1.1
In the beginning, God (The Father) created the heavens and the earth.

gen 1.26
26 Then God (The Father) said, “Let us make man in our image (our = more than person), after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

gen3.22
Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us (more than one person) in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”

Gen 11.7
7 Come, let us go down = more than one person us 2 or 3 persons coming down to correct man.

Isiah 6.8.
And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” Then I said, “Here I am! Send me.”
Isiah 48.16.
Draw near to me, hear this:

from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,

from the time it came to be I have been there.”

And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit.
Isiah 61.1.
The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me,

because the Lord has anointed me

to bring good news to the poor;

he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,

to proclaim liberty to the captives,

and the opening of the prison to those
mathew 3.16-17…
6 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (The holy spirit) and coming to rest on him; 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son (Jesus), with whom i am
Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,.(3 persons)
2 Corinthians 13:14 (ESV)
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God The Father) and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
2 Corinthians 13:14 3 persons (ESV)
14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

I'm not clear if you think I'm being contrary to any of this?

Do note 2 Corinthians 3:1-18 and Hebrews 7:1-28 though, along with Ephesians 2:11-22 to understand what a Christian actually is.

Fundaamental · May 2, 2023

FrankSophia said:

You have not read it or took it in. You would not have replied within 1 minute if you had I spent weeks studying that.

God bless you friend 😊

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Jew and Gentile Reconciled Through Christ
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Melchizedek the Priest

7 This Melchizedek was king of Salemf and priest of God Most High.g He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,h 2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” 3 Without father or mother, without genealogy,i without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God,j he remains a priest forever.

4 Just think how great he was: Even the patriarchk Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!l 5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the peoplem—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham. 6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessedn him who had the promises.o 7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater. 8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.p 9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

Jesus Like Melchizedek

11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the peopleq established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come,r one in the order of Melchizedek,s not in the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also. 13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe,t and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.u 14 For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,v and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. 15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, 16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is declared:

“You are a priest forever,

in the order of Melchizedek.”a w

18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and uselessx 19 (for the law made nothing perfect),y and a better hopez is introduced, by which we draw near to God.a

20 And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath, 21 but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him:

“The Lord has sworn

and will not change his mind:b

‘You are a priest forever.’ ”b c

22 Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant.d

23 Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24 but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood.e 25 Therefore he is able to savef completelyc those who come to Godg through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.h

26 Such a high priesti truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners,j exalted above the heavens.k 27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrificesl day after day, first for his own sins,m and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for alln when he offered himself.o 28 For the law appoints as high priests men in all their weakness;p but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son,q who has been made perfectr forever.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, like some people, letters of recommendation to you or from you? 2 You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts, known and read by everyone. 3 You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

4 Such confidence we have through Christ before God. 5 Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God. 6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

The Greater Glory of the New Covenant
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

12 Therefore, since we have such a hope, we are very bold. 13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate[a] the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Got me weeping over here actually reading them again.

I wish people understood.

Pilgrimshope · May 2, 2023

FrankSophia said:

um yeah I have no idea what your saying here ot seems like your saying Gods not a person but I believe Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh as a person so the fulness of God is Jesus Christ bodily

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it seems like because I don’t agree th at “ gods not a person “ and I believe agod is a person named Jesus your talking about western religion ? I’m just talking about the Bible and what the Bible says about Jesus

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and doubt who that is right ?

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when you read that verse think about what else John said about the word

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

….He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-3, 10, 12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This isnt saying the word isn’t God bit he has a friend it says the word was God in the beginning and became flesh and dwelt among us that’s Jesus of course God manifest in the flesh

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the Old Testament before Jesus was born was saying this again and again God would come in the flesh

It’s why the ot is full of prophecy like this

Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

and the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

..lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.”

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:1, 3, 5-6, 8-11‬ ‭KJV‬

The right belief is here

“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

jesus is God manifest in the flesh and glorified in the spirit , before he came and after he died eternally

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He is God he became a man because we needed a high priest and intercessor and mediator that has to be a man so he became a man when he saw there was no worthy man

“Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:15-17, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The person of God is Jesus when he was born of a woman’s womb he became a person so we could Know him by the gospel

Fundaamental · May 2, 2023

FrankSophia said:

watch this without feeling condemned 😊.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Fundaamental said:

Does he impress you?

He is just showing off his knowledge.

Fundaamental · May 2, 2023

FrankSophia said:

see the video is 5 minutes long and you've replied within 2 minutes.

Sounds like you've only Got time for your understanding to be heard friend 😊 God bless you. And please understand your not alone.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Fundaamental said:

It doesn't take long to see he doesn't have God.

In his demeanor alone it is clear, then he is talking on petty verses because that's all he understands.

Patience arises from the Spirit, it is not something we can do.

I am still waiting on things promised by the Spirit a decade ago, I am quite patient.

Fundaamental · May 2, 2023

FrankSophia said:

Well that's your choice to think like that. But anyhow welcome to cc and I hope the lord forgives you for condemning Gods anointed. All tho I dont suppose what youve Just said you will take to the lord.

I won't be replying to you no more now.

FrankSophia · May 2, 2023

Fundaamental said:

Galatians 1:8

Suit yourself.

TheLearner · May 2, 2023

FrankSophia said:

Great verses, any others about all three in us?

LenMcM · May 3, 2023

God (Yahweh) is a spirit, immortal, invisible, omni-present. As a spirit He is not confined to any one place or time. To make himself known to mankind He reveals himself in 3 different ways, as Father, Son & Holy Spirit. As all are manifestations of Yahweh then all manifestations are God. I cannot see anything too mysterious or difficult about it. The Scriptures are clear, Jesus said "He who has seen me has seen the Father". On conversion the Holy Spirit (God) indwells the believer and aids the believer to overcome Satan's influence. Dear friends I pray you all know or will know the power of God's spirit in your lives.

GRACE_ambassador · May 3, 2023

LenMcM said:

Amen! And, Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome To Chat.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).

Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings

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