God's Very Simple Will, Under His Pure GRACE!

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Feb 9, 2019
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Revision version 3.1 (RDF = Rightly Divided From):

The THREE Tenses Of God's ETERNAL Salvation:

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should
not trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who
Delivered us from So Great A Death,...
(RDF)

...and Doth Deliver:...
(RDF)

...in Whom we trust that He Will Yet Deliver us;"
(2 Corinthians 1:9-10)
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E-X-P-A-N-D-E-D version:

Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recog-
nizing These THREE, And, Also, God's Differences Between
"HIS Relationship With us," And (RDF) "our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

► faith (100% trust/belief with the heart!) ◄
1) Past Tense = "...God Delivered us from So Great A Death...":

God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship
With
those who humbly repent and

believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,
HIS Death (
Precious BLOOD) , Burial, And HIS Resurrection,
According To The Scriptures!

(1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits
Of HIS
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1)

This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8) =
Justification
and Spiritual Sanctification
(2 Corinthians 1:10a cp Romans 3:24)

(More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's ETERNAL Assurance!
And here:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!)

► faith ◄
God's ETERNAL Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

►► love ◄◄
(2) Present Tense = "...God Doth Deliver us...":

All believers Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's Payment For the above Penalty of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform
for Him, having "been Called into fellowship With Him!"
(
Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9) Amen?:

We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2),
for Grace Deliverance From the power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b) = personal sanctification:

(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:

All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)

(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:

"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a work-man​
that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15)

Eternal Results: reward (GOOD works Required!) [or loss (BAD works!) *]
(1 Corinthians 3:8-15), ruling and reigning [or not *] With CHRIST, Which
Will
Finally Be At The Judgment Day!

* More study: Finishing The Race

►► love ◄◄:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

►►► Blessed HOPE! ◄◄◄
(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":

CHRIST's Glorification of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal
Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-57;
2 Corinthians 1:10c). Hallelujah! Praise HIS Excellent Name!!
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Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between the THREE tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And (RDF) our fellowship! Correct?

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).
[/QUOTE]
What a wonderful introduction to Christ and and the bible, thank you.
 

Mikemps

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No yo yo, when God decide save we save if not is not, but inform us this

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

So if we do that, we better repent before to late
 

montana123

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1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Charity, love in action is greater than faith.

And faith works by love.

No love then no faith.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.

By grace we are saved through faith, but without love there is no faith then there is no love.

1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Paul said he could have all faith so that he could remove mountains, but if he did not have charity then he is nothing.

1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

If any person preaches that godliness is gain withdraw yourselves from them having food and clothing be content.

For the love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy, and is not charity, and love is the fulfilling of the law.

Which if people go by their wants above their needs they have erred from the faith.

Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

James said if a person does not have charity then their faith is dead.

We are justified by works and not faith alone, and if we neglect works of love then our faith is dead.

1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

John said if a person does not have charity then the love of God does not dwell in them.

So do not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed, works, and in truth.

No love then no faith then no grace.

There are millions of people that go by the prosperity Gospel believing they are blessed that way but He cares about people being fed and clothed and not giving the saints their wants.

We are saved by faith, and not by works when we confess Jesus for that is all we can do.

But when receive the Spirit then we have to have works of love for faith to apply in our life for we must have the right perspective of God, and His kingdom that is love.

So Paul and James say the same thing all the while people argue over them.

1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth.

Love does not think an evil thought and does not rejoice in doing wrong, but rejoices in the truth to be led of the Spirit to be Christlike.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

When a person engages in sin that is not love then no faith.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Some people have a form of godliness but they deny the Spirit leading them for they want to enjoy sin, and hold on to sin, but they believe they are right with God but they are ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

If we hold on to a sin then the blood of Christ cannot wash it away for God will not take away a sin we hold on to.

There are many hypocrites, and many who go by the prosperity Gospel, but that is not love.

No love then no faith then no grace.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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Feb 22, 2021
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Precious friend(s), perchance you are 'fearfully' considering:

Bible Scenes From The Final Judgment

where there will be:

Three_Books_At_Final_Judgment.png

To receive God's Eternal Life and be "found Written [ In Book 3 ], The Lamb's Book Of Life,"
and:

Eternally avoid God's Final Judgment, please prayerfully and carefully review:

God's Simple Will!

Amen.
 

Bruce_Leiter

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Feb 17, 2023
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Precious friend(s). God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

(2) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(3) "Study" HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, for "Approval!"
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward, ruling, and reigning With CHRIST!

Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!
What about Jesus' commands in the Sermon on the Mount for us not to be angry (the same as murder), lust (the same as adultery), and worry (the same as trying to second-guess God's will), for example? When we believe and begin following Jesus, God the Father justifies us (declares us "not guilty") for all our sins only because of Jesus' death, but we remain sinners who need God's daily cleansing and power to make spiritual progress through Jesus' resurrection. That's where our prayers of confession and calling on God to make us a blessing to others come in.
 
Feb 22, 2021
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1,528
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#88
Revision 3.33 (RDF = Rightly Divided From):

God's Three Tenses Of His Eternal Salvation:

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should​
not trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who​
Delivered us from So Great A Death,...​
(RDF)​
...and Doth Deliver:...​
(RDF)​
...in Whom we trust that He Will Yet Deliver us;"​
----------------------------
E-x-p-a-n-d-e-d version:

Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing These
Three Deliverance Tenses, And,
Also, God's Differences Between
"His Relationship With us," And (RDF) "our fellowship with Him!"?

God's Will, Today, Under His Very Pure Grace? Very Simply:

► faith (100% trust/belief with the heart!) ◄
1) Past Tense = "...God Delivered us from So Great A Death...":

God Establishes His Eternal Relationship
With those who humbly repent and​
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In:

The LORD JESUS CHRIST, His Death (Precious BLOOD) ,
Burial, And His Resurrection, According To The Scriptures!
"Grace Through faith" In The Merits
Of His ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:​

All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1 AV)

This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [ Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8 AV) =
Justification and Spiritual Sanctification

{ More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's Eternal Assurance!
And here:​

[ Please recognize The "New ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ Ownership!" ]:​

a) "ye are not your own" (1 Corinthians 6:19 AV), because of the:​
b) "Redemption Through His BLOOD!" Ephesians 1:7 cp​
"Redemption Of The [ His ] Purchased possession!"​
c) All God's ( The New ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ Owner's ) Eternally Saved Are:
"Purchased With His [ God's ] Own BLOOD!" (Acts 20:28 AV) }

► faith ◄
God's Eternal Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ” (online)

►► love ◄◄
(2) Present Tense = "...God Doth Deliver us...":

All believers Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's Payment For the above Penalty of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform
for Him, having "been Called into fellowship With Him!"
(
Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9 AV) Amen?:

We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12 AV). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2 AV),
for Grace Deliverance From the power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b AV) = personal sanctification:

(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfill:

All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"​
(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:

"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a work-man​
that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15 AV)

Eternal Results: reward (Good works Required!) [or loss (Bad works!) *]
(1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV), ruling and reigning [or not *] With CHRIST, Which
Will
Finally Be At The Judgment Day!

* More study: Finishing The Race

►► love ◄◄

to be continued...
 
Feb 22, 2021
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1,528
113
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#89
Revision 3.33 continued:

God's Will, Today, Under His Very Pure Grace? Very Simply:

►► love ◄◄:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ” (online)

►►► Blessed Hope! ◄◄◄

(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":

CHRIST's Glorification of All "members" Of His Body!!
{This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
2 Corinthians 1:10c AV). At:​

Hallelujah! Praise His Excellent Name!!
----------------------------
Conclusion:

Big Differences Between the Three tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And (RDF) our fellowship! Correct?

Please Be Very Richly Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).

Amen.