''Mommy, I wanna be a Wizard.''

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Ramon

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There is a Wicca school out here as well...all nonsense. These people are just as stupid as the other relgions. Spells dont work. The majority doesnt. Some do, but not because of true magic. It's just the laws of probability. Some things you wish for simply happen and some dont. Just like praying, the rabbits foot, the four leaf clover, and every other superstition. There are no witches. Are you insane? Have you met anyone with magical powers? I would LOVE to have these powers. Anyone would. That is normal and healthy. Christians, and other religions like to suppress normal human behaviour and call it sin. We are all animals. We all have the same desires. But relgion wants us to repress our needs in the guise of sin.

Witches are stupid. Just as stupid as nuns.
No one needs to commit adultery.
No one needs to fornicate
No one needs to murder (keep anger in their hearts toward someone)
No one needs to steal (or desire something of someone elses in coveting)
No one needs to lie
No one needs to lust
No one needs to curse
No one needs to drink
No one needs ANY of this

Yet people do it like it is a way of life.
I don't speak of what I don't know, but of what I know, and I understand why you couldn't understand, but this is not to you.

Who this is to is those who call themselves Christians, and still allow their children this.

Animals have more sense than some humans.
 
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needmesomejesus

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Wouldnt SATAN want you to think a day that patterns yourself after the WORLD(whci hGOD said DONT do) and has a n apreaence of evil(which GOD said AVOID) WOudlnt the ADVESARY of our souls WANT us to think its "harmless" ? Look at the increase of evil. TODAYS wizard of OZ is Hary potter...i KNOW of an uproar there was amongst some christians about that movie when it came out. Because of a "Good Witch"

Well no there is a WHOLE series devoted to "Good witches" and they are using Even what is called "black magic" Look again Hallowen all that stuff has been Justified for YEARS. so again im not judging, just poitnig it out, and just saying GOD will judge. So take take it to HIM. JEsus bles you.

WE pattern ourselves after the world daily without knowing. As long as we aren't murdering people for Satan we're fine. Dressing up is harmless.
 
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shekaniah

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Just to let you know, I'm the mother of five childern. Ages 14 to 30yrs old. They are all very grounded and doing well.
They are very creative and talented. When my oldest three moved out of my home, it was their choice to watch what they
want. Not one of them are lacking in imagination. We did a lot of art projects, and spent lots of time talking about values.
I thank God that my children are all making good choices.

I think that if you have prayed and God has given you peace about a book, movie or a holiday. Then you have opened your heart and mind to God.
We are to have the mind of Christ.

1 Cor 4:6
6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived” the things God has prepared for those who love him—
10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for, “Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
 
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Ramon

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WE pattern ourselves after the world daily without knowing. As long as we aren't murdering people for Satan we're fine. Dressing up is harmless.
Those are not Jesus's requirements. Those are yours.

Jesus said whoever wants to keep this life will loose it, but anyone who looses this life will keep life eternal.
He has called us OUT of the world. We are to pattern ourselves after Christ not the world. All people who keep anger in their hearts are the same as murderers. All who look with lust are the same as adulterers.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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needmesomejesus

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Those are not Jesus's requirements. Those are yours.

Jesus said whoever wants to keep this life will loose it, but anyone who looses this life will keep life eternal.
He has called us OUT of the world. We are to pattern ourselves after Christ not the world. All people who keep anger in their hearts are the same as murderers. All who look with lust are the same as adulterers.

May Jesus bless you.

To be honest I believe Jesus would celebrate Halloween so he could minister to sinners. My parents who are pastors pass out tracks during Halloween with the candy. Christians can totallly celebrate any holiday with the mindset of Christ.:)
 
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Ramon

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To be honest I believe Jesus would celebrate Halloween so he could minister to sinners. My parents who are pastors pass out tracks during Halloween with the candy. Christians can totallly celebrate any holiday with the mindset of Christ.:)
Jesus came into this world to minister, not to celebrate Halloween. Jesus has already come to this world, and we have the record of his ministry. Jesus didn't pass out tracks and candy. He passed out healing and the gospel.

You gave that command, but Jesus did not. He said to go out into all the world preaching the gospel and liberty to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind. And gave them power to cast out devils, not to play with them.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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shekaniah

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Good verses Raymond
Jesus said whoever wants to keep this life will loose it, but anyone who looses this life will keep life eternal.
He has called us OUT of the world. We are to pattern ourselves after Christ not the world. All people who keep anger in their hearts are the same as murderers. All who look with lust are the same as adulterers.


Luke 17:34
Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.
I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
 
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Ramon

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Good verses Raymond
Jesus said whoever wants to keep this life will loose it, but anyone who looses this life will keep life eternal.
He has called us OUT of the world. We are to pattern ourselves after Christ not the world. All people who keep anger in their hearts are the same as murderers. All who look with lust are the same as adulterers.


Luke 17:34
Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.
I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Amazing my friend. That did not come from verses, that came from the Lord.

May Jesus bless you. :)
 
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ANYTHING that is not of GOD is of flesh,if of flesh then of sin, if of sin then of satan.

49For he that is mighty has done to me great things; and holy is his name.

50And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. 51He has shewed strength with his arm; he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. (luke 1)

23He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathers not with me scatters. (Luke 11)
 

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"The origin of Halloween is the Celtic Festival of Samhain (meaning summer’s end), lord of death and evil spirits. Long before Messiah (at least 2000 years), Druids in Britain, Ireland, Scotland, France, Germany and other Celtic countries observed the end of summer by making sacrifices to Samhain (pronounced sow-een). The Celts considered November 1st as being the day of death because the leaves were falling, it was getting darker sooner and temperatures were dropping. They believed Muck Olla, their sun god was losing strength and Samhain, lord of death, was overpowering him. Further, they believed that on October 31st Samhain assembled the spirits of all who had died during the previous year. These spirits had been confined to inhabit animals bodies for the past year, as punishment for their evil deeds. They were allowed to return to their former home to visit the living on the eve (Oct. 31) of the Feast of Samhain. Druid priests led the people in wicked worship ceremonies in which horses, cats, black sheep, oxen, human beings and other offerings were rounded up, stuffed into wicker cages and burned to death. This was done to appease Samhain and keep spirits from harming them. It is clear to see that HALLOWEEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CELEBRATION OF DEATH.
Our Pilgrim forefathers well knew of Halloween’s occultic roots. In fact they banned celebrating Halloween in America. Halloween was not celebrated in this country until 1845. At that time multiplied thousands of Irish emigrants flooded into New York because of the Irish Potato Famine of 1845-46. They brought with them the old Druid holiday of Halloween. Gradually celebrating this day spread throughout the rest of the country.

Halloween Little Guy in the Eye

And IF JESUS is LIFE, and said be seperate from the WORLD. then...
Samhain wasnt a god nor a lord and they never claimed that. Samhain in fact was not a deity. the Celtic god of the dead was called Gwynn ap Nudd or Arawn
 

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haha that made me laugh, you haven't visited the Bible discussion forum. if that is considered a long post ;)
I am new, I read the rules. they said something about 5 lines and things.
 

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God doesn't want us to be judgmental...Luke 6:37 Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven.

James 4:12 There is only one lawgiver and judge;the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbour.

And he also want us to 1 Corinthians 9:22 become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some
 
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falling_leaves75

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This is what I heard a little boy tell his mom, and his mom was too afraid and ashamed to say something back.
I think the mum should've asked "why son, what makes you want to be a wizard?"

To be honest I think there's nothing wrong with fantasy novels such as Harry Potter. It promotes doing good not evil. It promotes friendship and loyalty. It in fact, in a sense, DEMOTES the hunger for power, it DEMOTES betrayal, it DEMOTES greed. And most kids, in their INNOCENCE, enjoy it, have dreams. But ask them why they want to be a wizard?? Is it because they want power? Is it because they want to take over the world and conquer it?? Or is it because "it'd be awesome, and i wanna defeat the baddies?"

It's a kids thing. They get over it.

Yes, of course there are fantatics. Of course there are people in the world who actually believe and practise witch craft. But that doesn't mean that these books promote evil. How does Harry Potter promote EVIL deeds. When a little kid reads Harry Potter what EVIL thoughts does he think? I think innocence and imagination is important in a child.

On the other side of the coin there are also biblical fantatics, and christian terrorists, who believe they're doing what God wants them to do. Just because some people make ridiculous interpretations of the Bible, doesn't mean that the Bible is evil.
 
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falling_leaves75

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Sorry, it won't let me edit the post for some reason....

but i thought i'd add that with this rationale, one could argue that the majority of films should not be seen.

romances/romantic comedies : they "promote" lust and sex before marriage

action: they "promote" violence

fantasy: they "promote" sorcery

horror: also "promotes" sorcery and the supernatural

science fiction: also "promotes" sorcery,supernatual etc

war films: "promote" violence (???for the greater good??)

crime: they "promote" again violence, sometimes arguing that the bad guy should be caught no matter what
 
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needmesomejesus

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Jesus came into this world to minister, not to celebrate Halloween. Jesus has already come to this world, and we have the record of his ministry. Jesus didn't pass out tracks and candy. He passed out healing and the gospel.

You gave that command, but Jesus did not. He said to go out into all the world preaching the gospel and liberty to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind. And gave them power to cast out devils, not to play with them.

May Jesus bless you.
I didn't say Jesus would pass out tracks but he'd use Halloween as an opportunity to love on people who need him. The Pharisees would be damning all who celebrate Halloween to hell while Christ would prove that he looks at the heart.
 
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Ramon

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I didn't say Jesus would pass out tracks but he'd use Halloween as an opportunity to love on people who need him. The Pharisees would be damning all who celebrate Halloween to hell while Christ would prove that he looks at the heart.
The issue ends between you and Jesus Christ.

Yes, he does look at the heart.

May Jesus bless you.
 

leelee

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The issue ends between you and Jesus Christ.

Yes, he does look at the heart.

May Jesus bless you.
Disproving what you have said all along.
 
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Deadflesh

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God doesn't want us to be judgmental...Luke 6:37 Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven.

James 4:12 There is only one lawgiver and judge;the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbour.

And he also want us to 1 Corinthians 9:22 become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some
1 Corinthians 5:11-13
But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders?
Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? (yes it is)

God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

He doesnt want us to be sinners to sinners. JESUS went TO the sinners to make them CLEAN. NOT to say "its ok buddy, you can totaly live in disrespect and rebllion to me, i still love you and except you for who you are" nope..JESUS FREED them.

Now WE are to JUDGE the CHRISTIANS. not the WORLD. let the WORLD be the WORLD, and let those who claim the name of CHRIST, be TOTALY DIFFERENT then the WORLD...we are told to be SEPERATE.
 
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Deadflesh

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I think the mum should've asked "why son, what makes you want to be a wizard?"

To be honest I think there's nothing wrong with fantasy novels such as Harry Potter. It promotes doing good not evil. It promotes friendship and loyalty. It in fact, in a sense, DEMOTES the hunger for power, it DEMOTES betrayal, it DEMOTES greed. And most kids, in their INNOCENCE, enjoy it, have dreams. But ask them why they want to be a wizard?? Is it because they want power? Is it because they want to take over the world and conquer it?? Or is it because "it'd be awesome, and i wanna defeat the baddies?"

It's a kids thing. They get over it.

Yes, of course there are fantatics. Of course there are people in the world who actually believe and practise witch craft. But that doesn't mean that these books promote evil. How does Harry Potter promote EVIL deeds. When a little kid reads Harry Potter what EVIL thoughts does he think? I think innocence and imagination is important in a child.

On the other side of the coin there are also biblical fantatics, and christian terrorists, who believe they're doing what God wants them to do. Just because some people make ridiculous interpretations of the Bible, doesn't mean that the Bible is evil.
According to GOD We are NOT to try to do EVIL so Good may come of it.
And GOD says he HATES witchcraft. ThereFORE ALL thigns that have to do with MAGIC(which is illusion/lies, and tryign to BE GOD, pride/rebellion) are Evil. Here is a video a friend of mine put together its ALL the passges i nthe Bile about Witchcraft and sorcery.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzAorOqpAho[/video]
 
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Ramon

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I think the mum should've asked "why son, what makes you want to be a wizard?"

To be honest I think there's nothing wrong with fantasy novels such as Harry Potter. It promotes doing good not evil. It promotes friendship and loyalty. It in fact, in a sense, DEMOTES the hunger for power, it DEMOTES betrayal, it DEMOTES greed. And most kids, in their INNOCENCE, enjoy it, have dreams. But ask them why they want to be a wizard?? Is it because they want power? Is it because they want to take over the world and conquer it?? Or is it because "it'd be awesome, and i wanna defeat the baddies?"

It's a kids thing. They get over it.

Yes, of course there are fantatics. Of course there are people in the world who actually believe and practise witch craft. But that doesn't mean that these books promote evil. How does Harry Potter promote EVIL deeds. When a little kid reads Harry Potter what EVIL thoughts does he think? I think innocence and imagination is important in a child.

On the other side of the coin there are also biblical fantatics, and christian terrorists, who believe they're doing what God wants them to do. Just because some people make ridiculous interpretations of the Bible, doesn't mean that the Bible is evil.
So you would compare this trash to the bible?

God is not so complicated, he has given his requirements for HIS people.

This is all a work of Satan, trying to get people to see evil as good and good as evil. I am not so surprised to see so called Christians defend it. ''So called.''

The Holy Spirit lets every single Christian know what is approved and what is not, but many people don't want to hear it. They want what the world wants. And they will get the punishment the world gets.

If anyone wants to be Christian, let him follow Jesus, let him OBEY his commands.

May Jesus bless you.