The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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God does not change.
History reveals that God was very upset with His people when they did not keep his laws and after a few warnings they often found themselves in trouble.
Babylonian captivity, etc.
Isa 1:19-20
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: 20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
The point is God wants us to obey Him not to earn salvation, but because we love and honour Him. Fear God and give glory to him...
our actions show our faith.
Faith is revealed in works.
If God said REMEMBER THE sabbath DAY
to keep it holy
And people are saying it doesn't matter
Just keep A DAY. NO, The day that God said to remember was His sabbath.
We need to honour God's authority and obey God not man.
This is a test of who we worship.
Man or God.
Obeying God is not to earn salvation but is our way of saying that we put God first.
1Ki 18:21 Elijah came near to all the people, and said, “How long will you waver between the two sides? If Yahweh is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” The people didn’t say a word.
If God is Lord then obey His commandment ... Remember THE SABBATH (not A sabbath) to keep it holy.
God has not changed.
Those that disobey and rebel will see the same things come on them as in the past.
1Sa 12:14-15
14 If ye will fear the LORD, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the LORD your God: 15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the LORD, but rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall the hand of the LORD be against you, as it was against your fathers.
God tells us in the Revelation that His people will be keeping the commandments.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The Remnant keep the commandments of God.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
The sabbath commandment is the one that is causing tension.
The sabbath command is the only one that identified the Lord as our creator.
The sabbath commandment was only one of the 10 that people are confused about.
Most Christians agree with 9 of the 10 commandments but they think the 4th is okay to transgress..
History reveals that God was very upset with His people when they did not keep his laws and after a few warnings they often found themselves in trouble.
Babylonian captivity, etc.
Isa 1:19-20
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: 20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
The point is God wants us to obey Him not to earn salvation, but because we love and honour Him. Fear God and give glory to him...
our actions show our faith.
Faith is revealed in works.
If God said REMEMBER THE sabbath DAY
to keep it holy
And people are saying it doesn't matter
Just keep A DAY. NO, The day that God said to remember was His sabbath.
We need to honour God's authority and obey God not man.
This is a test of who we worship.
Man or God.
Obeying God is not to earn salvation but is our way of saying that we put God first.
1Ki 18:21 Elijah came near to all the people, and said, “How long will you waver between the two sides? If Yahweh is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” The people didn’t say a word.
If God is Lord then obey His commandment ... Remember THE SABBATH (not A sabbath) to keep it holy.
God has not changed.
Those that disobey and rebel will see the same things come on them as in the past.
1Sa 12:14-15
14 If ye will fear the LORD, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the LORD your God: 15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the LORD, but rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall the hand of the LORD be against you, as it was against your fathers.
God tells us in the Revelation that His people will be keeping the commandments.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The Remnant keep the commandments of God.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
The sabbath commandment is the one that is causing tension.
The sabbath command is the only one that identified the Lord as our creator.
The sabbath commandment was only one of the 10 that people are confused about.
Most Christians agree with 9 of the 10 commandments but they think the 4th is okay to transgress..
You do what your human wisdom tells you.
I like to follow the wisdom of God.
The original plan.
1 Cor 3:16-19...
None of those verses you quoted states that the ten commandments given to Israel. Are moral
or universal law.
You said, "God's Universal moral Law is the Ten Commandments".
You are quoting from the law given to blood covenant Israel.
You must demonstrate from the scripture and clearly that Gentile nations, are in a blood covenant
to obey the law.
You keep quoting from the covenant between Israel and God.
Israel has the sabbath law not the Gentile nations.
The Gentiles never knew YHWH or His law.
That's exactly what God told the covenant people the Jews.
God was not speaking to the Egyptians about the covenant law.
Once again, Jesus talking with the covenant nation about the covenant law.
Jesus is certainly not addressing the Gentile nations in your quotations.
So are you a Gentile or are you a child of Abraham?
Are you circumcised by faith or not?
Rom 2:25-29
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Please read the verses above twice.
Are you circumcised in the heart.
The blood line or nation we are connected to means nothing.
The thing that counts is what is in the heart.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Are you part of this covenant? Is the law written on your heart?
1Co 7:18-20
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. 20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Circumcision is nothing
Uncircumcision is nothing
Be a jew or Gentile means nothing.....
But the keeping of the commandments of God. This is the thing that counts.
The heart that obeys...
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
The word man = human being, mankind
Duty of all people is the same.
Hello TMS.
A perfect example of your deep misunderstanding of the letter to the Romans.
I will let AI have a crack at Romans and see if AI can correct you.
From Romans 2 through Romans 11, Paul is unfolding one continuous argument about the Law, Israel, the Gentiles, and God’s righteousness.
Here is the flow of his explanation, staying anchored in the text:
1. Romans 2–3: The Law exposes sin, it does not justify
- Jews have the Law but break it (2:17–24)
- Circumcision is meaningless without obedience (2:25–29)
- Both Jews and Gentiles are under sin:
- “There is none righteous, no, not one” (3:10)
- “all the world may become guilty before God” (3:19)
- Conclusion:
- “by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified” (3:20)
The Law reveals sin; it cannot make a person righteous.2. Romans 3–5: Righteousness comes through faith, not the Law
- “the righteousness of God without the law is manifested” (3:21)
- “through faith… unto all and upon all them that believe” (3:22)
Abraham is the key example:
- “Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness” (4:3)
- This happened before circumcision (4:10)
Therefore:- Righteousness is by faith, not Law or covenant sign.
- It is available to both Jew and Gentile.
3. Romans 6–8: Freedom from sin and from the Law’s dominion
- Believers are dead to sin (6:2)
- And also dead to the Law:
- “ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ” (7:4)
- The Law is good, but:
- “it was weak through the flesh” (8:3)
- The solution:
- “the law of the Spirit of life… hath made me free” (8:2)
Righteousness is fulfilled not by the letter, but by the Spirit:- “that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us… after the Spirit” (8:4)
4. Romans 9–10: Israel’s failure and the stumbling stone
Paul explains why Israel, who had the Law, failed:
- They pursued righteousness:
- “as it were by the works of the law” (9:32)
- And:
- “they stumbled at that stumblingstone” (9:32)
Instead of faith, they sought Law-based righteousness:
- “going about to establish their own righteousness” (10:3)
Key statement:
- “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth” (10:4)
Israel largely missed righteousness because they pursued it through the Law instead of faith.5. Romans 11: Israel’s partial hardening and the inclusion of Gentiles
- Israel is not totally rejected:
- “God hath not cast away his people” (11:2)
- But:
- “blindness in part is happened to Israel” (11:25)
- This opened the way for Gentiles:
- “through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles” (11:11)
- Gentiles are grafted in:
- “thou… wert grafted in among them” (11:17)
- Final vision:
- “God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all” (11:32)
Both Jews and Gentiles stand on the same ground: mercy, not Law.The unified message (Romans 2–11)
Paul is explaining:
1. The Law does not justify — it exposes sin.
2. Righteousness comes only through faith, not through the Law.
3. Israel failed because they pursued righteousness through the Law instead of faith.
4. Gentiles are included apart from the Law.
5. True belonging to God is based on faith and inward transformation, not covenant markers.
6. In the end, both Jews and Gentiles depend entirely on God’s mercy.
In one sentence
From Romans 2 to 11, Paul explains that the Law cannot produce righteousness; instead, God gives righteousness through faith to both Jews and Gentiles, revealing that all stand equally in need of mercy and that true belonging to God is not based on the Law but on faith.
Some how your contradicting Paul's entire narrative of the Jewish failure to achieve a righteousness
based on the law. You should read chapters 9 to 11, very carefully because in these three chapters.
Paul explains what he was talking about in chapter 2 through to chapter 11.
Paul is directly explaining why the law does not grant righteousness.
The law only grants the knowledge of sin and nothing else but condemnation.
The law killed Paul.
Romans 7:9-11
I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;
and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; for sin, taking
an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.
The law is a death sentence.
Do you understand TMS?
That is your take on this my friend. There is a difference between His commandments, His statutes and His judgements. Please finish reading before replying.
No they didn't. Circumcision is still very much in affect In the cutting off the sins of the flesh, that the body of sin be destroyed. That we hence forth do not serve sin. And this circumcision was first spoken of in the Bool of the Law prior to the Children of Israel entering into the promised land in Deut 30:6. There you will find the New Covenant being given for the first time.
My friend it isn't Just the Ten Commandments God has placed in our hearts through Christ. Jeremiah 31:31 says the Law not Commandments. So it is not just the Ten.
The first mentioning of the New Covenant was actually in Deut 29:1 in the land of Moab. The reason we know it is new is because it is mentioned as a covenant besides the one given in Horeb, Mt Sinia. And that we should enter into covenant with the lord their God, into "HIS" oath. That HE may establish this day a people unto Himself Deut. 29:12,13.
The reason we can say "we" in respect to us entering into this covenant, into our Lord our God's oath, is it says so in Deut. 29:14, 15. There God through Moses says, neither with JUST YOU do I make this Covenant and this oath. But with him that standeth here with us this day before the LORD our God, and also with him that is not here with us this day. For the Lord our God will circumcise our heart and the hearts of our seed that we may live. That we obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments Deut30:6,8. Hearkening unto the voice of the Lord so that we can keep His Commandments, AND His Statutes written in the Book of the Law. For this commandment that we hearken unto the voice of the Lord is not far from us. But His Word is in our hearts and in our mouths that we do it. That is the faith in which we preach. For with the heart man believeth INTO righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:6-8. For God has said, He will put His Law into our hearts and in our minds He will write them. And again He saith, I will give them My Spirit and cause them to walk in my Way.
What is nice about the wording in Deut. 30:10-14 is that the judgments, those ordinances and ceremonies that dealt with when we sin are not mentioned. This clears up a lot of confusion as to what exactly God has placed in our hearts through Christ. Besides the Ten Commandments It is just the laws and statutes that pertain to our interaction with one another and God.
The New Covenant is the Law, His Word in our heart rather than on the Tables of stone and parchment. The fact that it is now internal through Christ makes life eternal for us. A life everlasting. For His word endureth forever. 1 Pet 1:25, Isa 40:8
Jesus is now our high priest. Because of the change of the priest hood there must also be a change of the Law. For "our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood." Heb 7:12,14
James is not talking about keeping the commandments here. James is talking about actions that convey a person's belief system. For instance, Jesus tells us that if we want God to forgive us, then we need to forgive others. And when I forgive others in this way, my act to forgive exemplifies my belief in the gospel, namely, that I am a sinner in need of forgiveness.
No sin killed Paul.
"..for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me."
We are justified apart from the works of the Law. Romans 3:28. Resting on a Saturday is a work of the law. Since Paul said we are justified apart from the work of the law, we are not obligated to rest on a Saturday.
What you are saying sounds right at first, but it only holds part of the truth and leaves out what both James and Jesus clearly teach.
James is not speaking about simple actions that only show what someone believes. He is speaking about a life that obeys God, and he makes that clear by pointing directly to the commandments themselves.
James says, “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is become guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill… So speak ye, and so do, as men that are to be judged by a law of liberty.” (James 2:10–12 ASV). Here he is not talking about general actions or expressions of belief. He is pointing to God’s law and showing that our lives are judged by it.
Then he says, “Even so faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.” (James 2:17 ASV). This is not about faith lacking visible expression only, but about faith that does not obey. A faith that does not follow God is a dead faith.
He continues with Abraham and says, “Was not Abraham our father justified by works…? Thou seest that faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect.” (James 2:21–22 ASV). Abraham did not simply show what he believed. He obeyed what God told him to do, and through that obedience his faith was made complete.
When we listen to Jesus, the meaning becomes even clearer. He never separated belief from obedience. He said, “If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments.” (John 14:15 ASV). He also said, “If thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17 ASV). And again, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father.” (Matthew 7:21 ASV). These words are simple and direct. To believe Him is to follow Him, and to follow Him is to obey.
The example of forgiveness actually confirms this. Jesus said, “For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if ye forgive not men… neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:14–15 ASV). Forgiving others is not just an action that shows belief. It is something Jesus commanded, and obeying it is required.
So, James is not separating works from the commandments. He is showing that true faith lives in obedience to God. Faith and works are not two different paths. Faith believes God, and works follow Him. When someone truly believes, they do what He says. When they do not, their faith is empty.
You cannot remove the commandments and still keep the meaning of James. Without obedience, works become just human actions. But with Jesus, works become obedience to His words, and that is the path that leads to life.
Right, however the Just, the justified live by Faith, This Faith establishes the Law that tells us what sin is. We do not continue in sin. We through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the Body that we may live. For if we live after the flesh ye shall die. For the wages of sin is death. But the gift of Life is through Jesus Christ. He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the LAW be fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh.
A lot of people misunderstand Paul. Paul is not teaching disobedience to God's commandments- he stated plainly keeping them is what matters 1Cor7:19 so we can't use Paul to contradict himself and more importantly Jesus who is God.
We are justified by faith and this is what is looks like:
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.
Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”
The faith part is what saves us, the action part is what proves our faith is genuine or not. God is looking for doers of His Word, not just hearers James1:22-26 Mat7:21-23 Luke 6:46-49 Rev22:14KJV
The Ten Commandments is the work of God not man.
Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
And we were made to walk in them
Eph 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Psa 78:7 That they may set their hope in God, And not forget the works of God, But keep His commandments;
Rev 2:26 And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations
Its not God that wants us to not walk in His righteousness, its the other spirit, its not God that doesn;t want us to rest with Him on the holy day of the LORD, the Sabbath Isa58:13, its not God to teaches us to forget on something He asked us to Remember. Exo20:8-11 we need to be careful on which voice we are subjecting ourselves to, Jesus said to live by what God said Mat4:4 He will only lead us on the narrow path back to Him.
My friend! I love many of your posts and so blessed to have you post here and look forward to reading many more of them.
I would like to point out that I disagree with this statement.
The law is a generic term-and this is where most of the confusion comes in because people do not look at the context of the law being spoken about. The law could mean the Ten Commandments as shown by these two examples
Exo 24:12 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law and commandments which I have written, that you may teach them.”
We plainly know only the Ten Commandments is the law God personally wrote on stone
Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.
Here is a NT example
Rom7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
Obviously the law being referred to is the Ten Commandments.
Often Paul will use the term law to refer to the book of the law what was beside the ark Deut4:13 written by Moses, not God.
Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”
This is where most confusion on Scripture comes in because people (not saying you) in general do not study the difference between the two main laws. The law of God - the Ten Commandments written by God Himself that was inside the ark and the law that was added because of sin that was placed outside the ark, the law of Moses written by Moses that was there as a witness against thee Deut31:24-26 that contained all of the blessings and curses for breaking the Ten Commandments.
There is a law not a jot or tittle can pass Mat5:18- the one written by the finger of God Exo31:18 inside the ark of God Exo40:20 Exo25:21 in His heavenly Temple Rev11:18-19 that is perfect Psa19:7 holy, just and good Rom7:12
The law of Moses we were told plainly the commandments contained in ordinances written by Moses 2Chron33:8NKJV Col2:14KJV Dan9:27 Heb10:1-10 once Jesus came would end at the Cross.
Anyway, like I said this is an area that brings in a lot of confusion, so hope you don't mind me sharing these Scriptures.
God bless!