Adam was created spirit, soul and body. He died and his spirit returned to God who gave it. He had to be born again to regain his spiritual life. We are created body and soul for we cannot partake of God as sinners. We must be born again to have a spiritual life. We did not have a spirit that died, for spirit cannot die, it is why our salvation from death is permanent when we are made spiritually alive.
What exactly is our soul?
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Adam was created spirit, soul and body. He died and his spirit returned to God who gave it. He had to be born again to regain his spiritual life. We are created body and soul for we cannot partake of God as sinners. We must be born again to have a spiritual life. We did not have a spirit that died, for spirit cannot die, it is why our salvation from death is permanent when we are made spiritually alive.
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you don't even know what Christ means, it appears btw think about men man Do not Have Fruit to claim it is dead . zDo it The Anointing or no Anointed Christ Makes one Quickened this mean life even from death .yes it has scripture to back it up ,read all posts, get a clue what Jesus really did for us!!
Peter, please find below a partial narrative within my commentary on the Book of Daniel. This particular writing is found in the chapter 9:24 narrative. Please consider, and thanks.
Part 1
To Bring in Everlasting Righteousness
Reconciliation, however, is not the final goal. God does not merely bring us back to neutral. He restores what the Fall stole: righteousness itself—life in harmony with His holiness. That is why Gabriel’s next words rise higher than forgiveness. “To bring in everlasting righteousness” is the climax of the sequence: the Messiah not only deals with sin; He returns righteousness to humanity through His own perfect life, His atoning death, and His indwelling Spirit.
In Daniel 9:24, God names transgression, sin, and iniquity—three expressions of humanity’s fallen condition, each describing a different depth of rupture with Him. They are not merely poetic variations. Together they trace the unraveling of righteousness that began with Adam. When Adam disobeyed, humanity was driven from the Garden—not only as a change of location, but as a spiritual severing from God’s presence. What was lost in that moment was greater than a home.
Righteousness itself was lost: the harmony of a life in union with God, the holiness of an undivided heart, and the divine life God had breathed into humanity at the beginning. Since that loss, no human effort—no system, ideology, or moral code—has been able to restore what was forfeited.
Human beings have always tried to define righteousness through human lenses. Societies often reduce it to moral decency—fairness, kindness, or living by some form of the golden rule. Such virtues can be admirable, but they fall short of God’s standard. Biblical righteousness is not merely being “good” by earthly measurement; it is being in complete harmony with God’s holiness, will, and character. It is not a cultural ideal. It is God’s own life and likeness expressed in the human soul.
That is why Scripture can say, “All our righteous acts are like filthy rags” (Isaiah 64:6). Even our best intentions are mingled with pride, self-interest, and imperfection. Human morality is relative and fluctuates across cultures and time. God’s righteousness is absolute, eternal, and rooted in His unchanging nature. And this is why Paul can declare the universal verdict: “There is none righteous, no, not one” (Romans 3:10).
The fall produced spiritual death—separation from God that no amount of effort can undo. Sacrifices, rituals, religious zeal, and moral striving can expose the need for righteousness, but they cannot manufacture it. What humanity needed was not more instruction, but intervention. Not more law, but life. Not moral improvement, but spiritual rebirth.
This is why God’s plan always pointed to the Messiah. Jesus did not come merely to teach righteousness as an ideal; He came as righteousness incarnate. He lived in perfect alignment with the Father. In His life we see what righteousness truly is. In His death, sin is atoned for. And in His resurrection, the way back to what Adam lost is opened—not by human climbing, but by divine gift.
At the cross, an exchange took place that is almost beyond comprehension: “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This is the power of the gospel. Righteousness is not earned; it is received. It is not a reward for obedience, but the gift of grace. The righteousness of Christ is credited to those who place their faith in Him, so that God no longer regards the believer through the lens of sin, but through the perfect obedience of His Son.
And Daniel does not say simply “righteousness.” He says everlasting righteousness. This is not a temporary covering, and it is not a symbolic gesture. It is the restoration of what was lost in Eden—the reopening of the way back to the presence of God, not through ceremony, not through human effort, but through union with the One who fulfilled both the Law and the sacrifice.
Yet this everlasting righteousness unfolds in two movements. It is already present now as a declared reality: those who believe are justified and accepted, clothed in Christ’s righteousness, and given the Spirit who begins transforming them from within. And it is not yet revealed in its final fullness: the complete manifestation awaits Christ’s return, when sin and death are destroyed and God’s people are made whole in His presence. Until then, believers walk in a righteousness that is both given and growing—declared by faith and developed by the Spirit. Everlasting righteousness has been brought in. And when the Messiah returns, it will be seen without remainder.
Part 2
In Genesis 2:7, we are given a clear and profound formula for how God created Adam as a living soul:
“And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
This verse reveals two essential components in the creation of humanity:
A – Dust from the ground (the physical body, with senses and the natural capacity for mind and consciousness)
B – The breath of life (God’s Spirit / His holiness / His righteousness)
There are only two components involved in making Adam: the dust of the earth and the divine breath of God. Nothing else. It is a simple equation: A + B = C, where C represents the living soul. This soul is not a third, separate entity that exists independently of A or B. If either component is removed, C ceases to exist. The soul does not fly away to another realm or continue to live in another form—it simply no longer is. Adam was a living soul only because the Spirit of God was placed by God into the dust.
Importantly, the “breath” that God breathed into Adam was not mere air or oxygen to jump-start a heartbeat. It was God’s Spirit, His righteousness, His holiness, His very presence.
This divine union is what set humanity apart from the rest of creation. It reflected God's image and likeness—not in biology, but in spiritual design and relational capacity. God placed His holiness within Adam. But when Adam disobeyed and sin entered the world, the consequence was not immediate physical death—but spiritual death. Adam was cast out of the Garden, not only physically removed from Eden but separated from God’s presence. The Spirit that once dwelled in him returned to its source, for there is no other place that can contain God’s holiness but God Himself. Adam had no holiness of his own—it was God's righteousness within him, and when that Spirit departed, he was left spiritually barren. This is the core of God’s plan of salvation: How will He place His righteousness—His Spirit—back into us so we can once again dwell in His presence?
Sin caused the divine-human relationship to fracture. Humanity lost its standing as “living souls” and became simply “living beings”—animated by breath, but lacking the indwelling Spirit of God. Every person born after Adam—born outside the Garden—is born into this condition: physically alive, but spiritually empty. This loss of spiritual life is precisely what happened to the Jews who rejected their Messiah. When they crucified Jesus, they rejected the One who came to restore the Spirit within them. In response, God allowed desolation to fall—not just upon their city or Temple—but upon their spiritual relationship with Him. For 2,000 years (the time of the Gentiles), this estrangement has remained in place. Yet God’s mercy did not end there. His plan of salvation, fulfilled in Jesus Christ, was always about restoring what was lost in Eden. Through Jesus’ sacrificial death and resurrection, He made a way for us to be reconciled to God. Through faith in Christ, we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, who now dwells within us and empowers us to live in righteousness—not by our strength, but by His.
The restoration of God's righteousness and Spirit within us is the only way to once again become a living soul—a being in true communion with God. This is not just a future promise but a present reality for every believer. And one day, when Christ returns, the full restoration will be complete: no longer just the Spirit dwelling in us, but we will dwell with Him—face to face, just as it was in Eden. Consequently, we do not have His Spirit, His holiness, or His righteousness within us. There is nothing innate in us—nothing spiritual—that continues on after we die. Our body returns to the dust from which it came, and without the Spirit of God, we cease to be living souls.
This is the tragic result of sin: spiritual separation from the Giver of life. In response, God established the Torah and its sacrificial system as a temporary measure of reconciliation between Himself and His people. These rituals were not an end in themselves, but a foreshadowing of the ultimate sacrifice—the one that Jesus would offer on the cross. His death brought about a once-and-for-all atonement, offering everlasting forgiveness and spiritual restoration to all who believe.
Through the gift of the Holy Spirit, believers receive not only the assurance of God's presence but also the power to live transformed lives. The outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost was God's symbolic act of breathing His Spirit back into humanity—the first step in restoring what was lost in Eden. It was the spiritual re-creation of man, already begun but not yet completed. This restoration must happen within us before we can dwell in God’s presence again. But the full consummation of this work—our complete return to holiness—will not take place until the second coming of Christ. God’s entire plan of salvation is aimed at one goal: to restore each person to the very state in which He originally created Adam—filled with His Spirit, clothed in His righteousness, and able to walk with Him once more. Just before Jesus died, He made a deeply meaningful statement. In Luke 23:46, we read:
"And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, ‘Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ Having said this, He breathed His last."
This final cry echoed David’s prayer in Psalm 31:5 and revealed a profound truth: Jesus had to release the Holy Spirit back to the Father. Having taken upon Himself the sin of the world, He could no longer retain the indwelling Spirit. Sin and the Holy Spirit cannot coexist. That Spirit, which had been given to Him at His baptism, returned to the Father at the cross. Yet on the day of His resurrection, the Spirit was restored to Him—symbolizing the victory of righteousness over death and sin. This act also served as a prophetic promise: at His second coming, God will once again breathe His Spirit fully into humanity, completing the restoration of His people. When He looks upon the redeemed at the end, He will not see sin—but rather His own righteousness covering them.
As Isaiah declared in Isaiah 61:10:
"I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for He has clothed me with the garments of salvation, He has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels."
Righteousness or holiness cannot be attained on this side of heaven. No act of human kindness, no moral effort, no ritual obedience can reach the height of God's standard. Righteousness belongs solely to God, the lawgiver, and is revealed through His laws. If He chooses to impart His righteousness to us, it remains His righteousness, not ours—a gift, not a reward. No one can justify themselves before God by their own works. As Isaiah reminds us in Isaiah 64:6:
"But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are like filthy rags; we all fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."
Only the righteousness of Christ, not our own, will ever enter His kingdom. Salvation is not about becoming better people—it is about becoming new people, reborn by the Spirit and clothed in the holiness that only God can give.
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You can keep saying the same thing over and over it's flawed greatly your trying talking about The Branch that bear fruit, His one seed is the quickened to bear multiply thats the place we need to be branching out bearing more of Jesus Fruit Purah Im not gonna go backward for some religion talk.
I like Jesus give it free and with flowing Sap as it it written
Because we are souls, not spirits. Why should God not recognise the souls that belong to Him as being alive even if they are physically dead? Why would God create Sheol if souls ceased to exist at physical death?
Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.
1 Peter 2:25
For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
You also seemed to ignore that I said we are not spiritual until we are born from above. The majority of named individuals in the scripture are born again and therefore are spiritual beings.
I don't defend tradition, I wasn't raised on it. I did my own questioning for 30 years to find the answer to man and spirituality thanks.
Just for those the want to be free indeed ?
In prophecy, Jesus is the Branch receiving life from the Father. However, in John 15:5, Jesus shifts the metaphor to show what happens after His resurrection. He scales up from a single branch to the entire Vine system, making us the smaller branches:
Jesus "branched out" (Zechariah 6:12) to encompass all believers. He is no longer just a shoot growing from the ground; He is the central trunk and source of life.
The Flowing Sap: What Flows Through The Branch?
For a branch to grow, it requires a steady internal flow. In KJV the Holy Spirit is the spiritual "sap" that originates in the roots of the Father, fills Jesus (The Branch), and flows out into us:
- The Spirit's Presence on the Branch: Look at what Isaiah says happens inside the prophetic Branch: "And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding..." (Isaiah 11:2). The Branch is perfectly filled with the "sap" of the Spirit. The Sap Transferred to Us: Because the Spirit rests perfectly inside Jesus, He can pump that exact same life-force into us. As John 7:38 promised, it becomes "rivers of living water" flowing out of our bellies. Without the flowing sap of the Holy Spirit, a branch is just dead wood. Jesus was called The Branch because He was the only living thing to sprout out of Israel's dead history. Because He is full of divine life ("full of sap" as Psalm 104:16 hints), He is able to sustain millions of branches today.
- yes The Soul Spirit is Of Jesus When In Him .it one of two dead soul Spirit or Parah life quickened Spirit taked Over *the dead soul" to life Soul/Spirit Parah Grow
- these conversations are Not as Paul asked to see hear ,it's actually a warning not to be speaking in gospel in your own life that is of the Quickened .
- you can find scripture I'm sure of it!
- Part 3 Parah
- Just as Adam
- Jesus Rauch Parah in The deciples
"Soul" is the result of body made of dust activated by human spirit breathed in by God. When a person is dead, the body just returns to dust, the human spirit goes to the grave (Sheol/Hades/underworld), united with their ancestors - known as "gathered to his people".
I think this response was meant to be included with #185 to Genez.....
Angels are spirit beings. Satan was a spirit being. Some the angels rebelled along with Satan. They did not return to God. You obviously do not understand what is meant by death. The Bible is clear as day that fallen man is a spirit being. 1 Corinthians 2:11 for a start.
Man was created to be a spiritual being, not a spirit being. He became a living soul, not a living spirit. Comparing the nature of angels and humans is not helpful as they are two different types of being.
Over 30 years of investigating is good. I have spent over 50 years. I have looked at what is taught by tradition from multiple angles, then took the unusual step of looking at what I was taught were clearly irrelevant sources. obscure ones. Scripture tells me that all that can be known about God is available from creation, that the earth and heavens proclaim His greatness. So, I have looked into what science can tell us, with the understanding that if science and scripture contradict each other, at least one of the two is being misunderstood, possibly both. I have studied to know what would have been common knowledge in the 1st century, things that the writers did not need to spell out, but that we have forgotten.Because we are souls, not spirits. Why should God not recognise the souls that belong to Him as being alive even if they are physically dead? Why would God create Sheol if souls ceased to exist at physical death?
Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.
1 Peter 2:25
For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
You also seemed to ignore that I said we are not spiritual until we are born from above. The majority of named individuals in the scripture are born again and therefore are spiritual beings.
I don't defend tradition, I wasn't raised on it. I did my own questioning for 30 years to find the answer to man and spirituality thanks.
Now tradition wants to bury a lot of this knowledge. But including all this knowledge allows difficult passages to become very simple and for unseen connections to pop up between many parts of the NT as well as the OT. It allows for scripture to be inspired by God, to be presenting God's truth, without having to rely on the attitude of "God directed the writers as to what to say, but the writers had the freedom to express it in their own words". Yes, in court eyewitnesses might differ in details and that is actually proof of telling the truth, but they should not all be assumed to be telling the exact same truth from the exact same source. Their words have not been dictated and thus MAT BE FALSE in some aspect or presentation, yet in scripture we find that they are all truth, and our specific understanding of what they say is likewise truth, even when it contradicts what someone else understands.
God is Spirit. man is made in the image of God. Man is a spirit being. You don't need a doctorate in theology to see that.
What are you talking about? souls are mentioned almost 300 different times in the OT.
BibleGateway - Keyword Search: soul
Says Gideon 300.
You shall surely die?
When he ate, did not begin to exist?
How did Adam die?
The Hebrew actually says....
"In dying you shall die."
Two deaths.
One was immediate (spiritual) when he ate.
And, as a result (physical death) afterwards.
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Before Genesis 2:7?
Man as a soul had been already created in Genesis 1:26-27
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule
over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,
and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
So God created (bara) mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created (bara) them;
male and female he created (bara) them.
Bara means to create something out from nothing.
Only God can create in that fashion.
Man's body was not created out from nothing.
Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils
the breath of life, and the man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Man being created by God in Genesis 2:7, was not the Hebrew word "bara."
For the body was not God creating something out from nothing.
That was simply God providing a body for the already created soul.
The Hebrew word is "yatsar" - to form and to mold something.
Man is a soul.
That is what God called "man" when He created the soul out from nothing. He called him 'man.' Genesis 1:27.
The body that God provided in Genesis 2:7 was a means for the soul to navigate within the created material world.
English translations can not lend that kind of understanding to us.
A good pastor teacher who knows the needed ancient languages can.
For our sakes God has raised up a few who do.
This one will not ask for money for his teachings...
https://rbthieme.org/about-us
grace and peace .....
I have often heard the claim made that "bara" means to create from nothing, but the Hebrew does not necessarily imply that. It can me to create, shape or fashion. It need not carry any implication of creation from nothing.