1 Day Ago) Tyler Robinson , accused of the murder of Charlie Kirk, has second court hearing

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Posted August 12,

Tyler Robinsons attorneys argued against the Death Penalty. Because they say Tyler Robinson only endangered Charlie Kirk!

"Defense lawyers for Tyler Robinson argue their client should not be eligible for the death penalty in Utah because conservative activist Charlie Kirk was his only “intended target” in the fatal shooting last year.

Robinson’s attorneys made the argument in court documents filed late Tuesday as they have tried to block the high-profile murder case from proceeding to trial."
 
She's not. She's said some harsh things against the state of Israel for the genocide committed in Gaza, but she's got Jewish friends. And she's not afraid to accuse criminals of being what they are, even if they try to hide behind their (supposed) religion of Judaism (or was it a race?) A Jewish supremicist terrorist plotting to kill her was gaolled by the FBI, and she gets accused of antisemitism for that, too. Those using the antisemitism epithet for the sake of it are just racists (or possibly supremacists themselves).
You haven't watched her videos. She is antisemitic.

And to those who are buying the lie about the"stolen" SD card in the camera behind Charlie, STOP!

The purveyor of lies here has said transcripts from the Robinson trial are off topic here in a thread about his trial prep.

Meanwhile that purveyor of lies continues.

The SD card is in the custody of the FBI!

Something Candace and her supporter here don't want you to know. As they continue to work to in essence free Charlies assassin of responsibility by muddying the truth with dung Candace brought with her from the pit.

Charlie Kirk’s friends respond to conspiracy theories on shooting(includes video)​

"....Conspiracy theories have also abounded over political activist Kirk’s death, with his final moments captured in videos widely shared on social media.

Among the apparently suspicious acts committed on the day were the removal of SD memory cards from the cameras set up by Kirk’s crew, and a man who could be seen to touch his hat seconds before the fatal shot was fired.

Kirk’s longtime friend and producer Andrew Kolvet revealed on last week’s edition of The Charlie Kirk Show the reason the memory cards were taken from the cameras.

The culprit was a crew member who had been with Kirk “from the very beginning and loved Charlie like a brother”, Kolvet said.

“First of all, they’re in the possession of the FBI (the SD cards),” he said. “It’s not like he took them and ran off with them.

“I asked him personally, ‘Why did you do that?’

And he looked at me and this was his answer, he said, ‘Because I know people can be evil.’ And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody.

“I’m so grateful he did that.”
(End excerpt)


Those who had no love for Charlie make up lies about his assassination so in order to let his Assassin be thought a patsy.

He's not. He confessed his guilt.Multiple times.

Those who push the lies,which are what has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, and are undeterred slanderers, are dishonest wilful sinners. And followers of Candace Owens .

Charlies dead. Don't feed the Trolls who are glad of it and now want to murder the truth of why Charlie is dead.

They'll get their justice. But first comes overdue justice to Tyler Robinson.


If you are in Christ you don't feed your mind with the lies ZNP,Candace,and others are manufacturing for your consumption.

Don't encourage what God calls abomination. Rebuke it.
 
You haven't watched her videos. She is antisemitic.

And to those who are buying the lie about the"stolen" SD card in the camera behind Charlie, STOP!

The purveyor of lies here has said transcripts from the Robinson trial are off topic here in a thread about his trial prep.

Meanwhile that purveyor of lies continues.

The SD card is in the custody of the FBI!

Something Candace and her supporter here don't want you to know. As they continue to work to in essence free Charlies assassin of responsibility by muddying the truth with dung Candace brought with her from the pit.

Charlie Kirk’s friends respond to conspiracy theories on shooting(includes video)​

"....Conspiracy theories have also abounded over political activist Kirk’s death, with his final moments captured in videos widely shared on social media.

Among the apparently suspicious acts committed on the day were the removal of SD memory cards from the cameras set up by Kirk’s crew, and a man who could be seen to touch his hat seconds before the fatal shot was fired.

Kirk’s longtime friend and producer Andrew Kolvet revealed on last week’s edition of The Charlie Kirk Show the reason the memory cards were taken from the cameras.

The culprit was a crew member who had been with Kirk “from the very beginning and loved Charlie like a brother”, Kolvet said.

“First of all, they’re in the possession of the FBI (the SD cards),” he said. “It’s not like he took them and ran off with them.

“I asked him personally, ‘Why did you do that?’

And he looked at me and this was his answer, he said, ‘Because I know people can be evil.’ And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody.

“I’m so grateful he did that.”
(End excerpt)


Those who had no love for Charlie make up lies about his assassination so in order to let his Assassin be thought a patsy.

He's not. He confessed his guilt.Multiple times.

Those who push the lies,which are what has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, and are undeterred slanderers, are dishonest wilful sinners. And followers of Candace Owens .

Charlies dead. Don't feed the Trolls who are glad of it and now want to murder the truth of why Charlie is dead.

They'll get their justice. But first comes overdue justice to Tyler Robinson.


If you are in Christ you don't feed your mind with the lies ZNP,Candace,and others are manufacturing for your consumption.

Don't encourage what God calls abomination. Rebuke it.
We know that the SD Card is in the hands of the FBI. But that is evidence that the prosecutor and the defense attorney should have access to. Instead, they have been given a 3 minute video, which is an altered version of the SD Card which would have 26 minutes of video on it.

I have not manufactured any lies. To say that is libelous and is a lie.

Therefore you can point to the post I have posted that you think was a lie. I have reported your post to the moderators.

I would also point out you have never DM'd me to object to anything I have said. I think that will be relevant if this needs to be escalated.

I would also point out this is not an off hand remark, your post talks about lies mentioning that six times, names me directly, says things like "purveyor of lies" those that "push lies". Your entire post was designed to slander me.
 
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I wondered what the law was concerning introducing a 3 minute video from the SD Card at the trial. Does the Defense attorney have the right to see the entire 26 minutes from the SD Card?

1. The Rule of Completeness
If the prosecution introduces a partial or altered piece of recorded evidence at trial, the defense can invoke the Rule of Completeness (codified as Federal Rule of Evidence 106 and similar state rules). This rule states that if one party introduces a portion of a recording, the adverse party may require them to introduce the rest of it. [1, 2, 3]

    • The Goal: To ensure fairness and prevent a jury from being misled by a "cherry-picked" or heavily cropped clip.
    • The Application: To execute this right at trial, the defense must have already been given access to the full, original 26-minute video to determine what context was lost by zooming and cropping. [1, 2, 3, 4]

2. Constitutional Discovery Rights (The Brady Rule)
Under the landmark Supreme Court ruling Brady v. Maryland, prosecutors are legally mandated to turn over all exculpatory evidence (evidence favorable to the defendant) and impeachment evidence (evidence that weakens the credibility of a prosecution witness). [1, 2]

    • The missing 23 minutes—or the uncropped background details—could contain critical evidence showing another suspect, contradicting the victim's timeline, or proving the defendant acted in self-defense. [1, 2]
    • Failing to provide the full, native video file constitutes a severe Brady violation, which can result in a mistrial or a overturned conviction. [1, 2]

3. Authentication and Chain of Custody
Before any video can be presented to a jury, the prosecution must "authenticate" it, proving it is a fair and accurate representation of what happened. [1, 2]

    • Digital alterations (zooming, cropping, or using AI-driven upscaling) can introduce distortion or mask peripheral details.
    • The defense has the right to examine the native file metadata and the original 26-minute version to ensure the video has not been tampered with or deceptively edited. [1, 2, 3, 4]
 
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Andrew Kolvet takes a flame thrower to Candaces lies.







You called me a liar in post 303, in Post 304 I asked for you to point to the post of mine that you were referring to. You ignore that and continue to post without answering that? That is slander and libel. What is the post that I made that you are saying was a lie that I told?
 
Luke 5:1 And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret, 2 And saw two ships standing by the lake: but the fishermen were gone out of them, and were washing their nets. 3 And he entered into one of the ships, which was Simon's, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down, and taught the people out of the ship.

It was just a few verses earlier that people were trying to kill him. When people try to kill you to stop you from speaking that doesn't damage a ministry, on the contrary the number of people interested in hearing what you are saying will increase exponentially.

This is why it is a major mistake to always trying to be conciliatory and compromise with those who want to shut you up. People want to hear the truth. The truth is light and that light exposes others. There is no compromise between light and darkness. The reason people hate someone who speaks the truth is because their deeds are evil and they don't want them exposed. Therefore why are you compromising because people trying to hide their evil deeds don't like what you are saying?
 
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Of course sir!!!

By the way, semite means all middle east people.
Netanyahu is a anti semite too.

Whoever created this word, and we should know who, don't even care about history. Himself is anti semantic.
Meanings of words change over time. The generally accepted definition of antisemite today is someone who is racist against Jews.
 
Well, why not get the answers to these questions, fastest way to put an end to this. The video I put up yesterday has already gotten 1.2 million views in one day. meanwhile someone put up some mocking video of her that has been up for a month and maybe has 6,000 views. There are a lot of people asking these questions and if we learned anything from the assassination of JFK it is this: if the trial doesn't satisfy everyone's questions it will not resolve it simply because some official says it does.
Because you can't answer a conspiracy theorist. It's a complete waste of time to try.
 
My brother's ashes went up in a satellite. You should never judge how someone else grieves.
Was your brother's death the result of premeditated murder?

When someone is killed, the odds are very high—roughly 80% to 90% in cases where the relationship is identified—that the victim knew their killer, either as a family member, intimate partner, friend, or acquaintance. Premeditated murders specifically involve planning, which most often stems from personal conflicts, domestic disputes, or targeted vendettas rather than random acts by strangers.

Anyone investigating the murder must scrutinize those who were closest to Charlie Kirk

In a case of premeditated murder, law enforcement views individuals close to the victim as the primary starting point of the investigation and will scrutinize them with a high degree of skepticism. Because premeditation requires a distinct motive, detectives operate under the assumption that the killer is almost certainly someone within the victim's personal, financial, or professional circles.

This is just the uncomfortable fact that at the same time people are grieving for a lost one law enforcement is focused on finding the killer and they must scrutinize his family, his friends, TPUSA, etc. This attempt to shift the scrutiny is deflection.
2. Playing the Victim (Victim Signaling)
In behavioral analysis, a suspect who relies heavily on their sorrow is attempting to occupy the "victim space" alongside the deceased. By projecting intense public mourning, they signal to investigators and the community that they are suffering too much to be capable of such an act, effectively trying to make themselves "untouchable" to accusations.

3. Obstruction of Justice
From a strict legal standpoint, if a person intentionally fakes, exaggerates, or uses emotional distress to deliberately mislead investigators, lie about timelines, or withhold evidence under the guise of being "too distraught to speak," it can be categorized as a form of obstruction.


So no, in a criminal investigation using "grief as a shield" will be ignored. You can try to "weaponize mourning" but no decent homicide investigator will allow that to dissuade them.
 
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You can answer a conspiracy theorist; it just can't be with something lame that comes from blind trust in authorities.

It would be on thing if there were one or two oddities about a case or incident... but here, from start to finish it is harder to find something ordinary than it is to find something irregular.

We can't be the "crazy conspiracy theorists" when the bigfoot people have better pictures of bigfoot than the FBI has of the alleged shooter.
 
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Because you can't answer a conspiracy theorist. It's a complete waste of time to try.
None of these questions are a theory. The guy who took the SD card has admitted that he took it. We have sufficient evidence that the SD Card had 26 minutes of video on it, but they only showed 3 minutes at the trial. That was prepared for the trial, not by the prosecuting attorney or the defense attorney and they have said that under oath. The law is very clear in this, if you are showing part of a video in a trial the defense attorney has the right to see and present all of the video. Right now the FBI is holding the SD Card, but the Utah police and the Utah prosecutor and defense attorney are the ones who have the right to it, not the FBI.

Taking a critical piece of evidence from the scene of the crime -- everyone involved has conceded this is what happened. Then giving it to a third party other than the investigators in charge of the investigation, and then giving the investigators an altered form of that evidence (3 minute clip from a 26 minute video is an altered form). The law is very clear that this is very likely a felony.

Even if the FBI were to now give the SD Card to the Utah police and prosecutor you couldn't use it unless we could prove the chain of evidence had not been broken. Everything that has happened over this year has seriously compromised a critical piece of evidence. That is not a conspiracy theory, that is the law.

The "theory" is about what might or might not be on the SD Card. I have not put forth any theory about that. All I have said is that this is critical evidence that should be part of the trial, not the altered 3 minute clip, but the whole 26 minutes.

I have also said because of the possibility that a felony was committed the phone that was used to text someone right after the SD Card was taken should be examined, who did they text and what was said in the text. Within minutes of taking the SD Card it was inserted into a laptop, examined and shown to a second person. All of that needs to be investigated. It is incredibly strange behavior to take place within ten minutes of Charlie Kirk being shot, and it is possibly a felony.
 
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The world is going to destroy mystery Babylon and God will destroy the world (not the earth). Is that a conspiracy theory?
Conspiracy fact; although, I might add that I believe the creation as we know it will be refined/recast in entirety, and there will be some destruction involved.
 
None of these questions are a theory. The guy who took the SD card has admitted that he took it. We have sufficient evidence that the SD Card had 26 minutes of video on it, but they only showed 3 minutes at the trial. That was prepared for the trial, not by the prosecuting attorney or the defense attorney and they have said that under oath. The law is very clear in this, if you are showing part of a video in a trial the defense attorney has the right to see and present all of the video. Right now the FBI is holding the SD Card, but the Utah police and the Utah prosecutor and defense attorney are the ones who have the right to it, not the FBI.
Agreed. This has gone way beyond "theory". Those continuing to lie about this are becoming (if not already) false witnesses, which potentially could lead to the execution of an innocent man (i.e. if the evidence is not pertinent to the truth or the trial, why would an unrelated party such as Terryl Farnsworth take action - which many consider may have constituted crime scene interference - to try to hide it?)
 
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Was your brother's death the result of premeditated murder?

When someone is killed, the odds are very high—roughly 80% to 90% in cases where the relationship is identified—that the victim knew their killer, either as a family member, intimate partner, friend, or acquaintance. Premeditated murders specifically involve planning, which most often stems from personal conflicts, domestic disputes, or targeted vendettas rather than random acts by strangers.

Anyone investigating the murder must scrutinize those who were closest to Charlie Kirk

In a case of premeditated murder, law enforcement views individuals close to the victim as the primary starting point of the investigation and will scrutinize them with a high degree of skepticism. Because premeditation requires a distinct motive, detectives operate under the assumption that the killer is almost certainly someone within the victim's personal, financial, or professional circles.

This is just the uncomfortable fact that at the same time people are grieving for a lost one law enforcement is focused on finding the killer and they must scrutinize his family, his friends, TPUSA, etc. This attempt to shift the scrutiny is deflection.
2. Playing the Victim (Victim Signaling)
In behavioral analysis, a suspect who relies heavily on their sorrow is attempting to occupy the "victim space" alongside the deceased. By projecting intense public mourning, they signal to investigators and the community that they are suffering too much to be capable of such an act, effectively trying to make themselves "untouchable" to accusations.

3. Obstruction of Justice
From a strict legal standpoint, if a person intentionally fakes, exaggerates, or uses emotional distress to deliberately mislead investigators, lie about timelines, or withhold evidence under the guise of being "too distraught to speak," it can be categorized as a form of obstruction.


So no, in a criminal investigation using "grief as a shield" will be ignored. You can try to "weaponize mourning" but no decent homicide investigator will allow that to dissuade them.
My comment stands. In the South, the have a wake (celebration). In New Orleans, that includes a brass band.
 
None of these questions are a theory. The guy who took the SD card has admitted that he took it. We have sufficient evidence that the SD Card had 26 minutes of video on it, but they only showed 3 minutes at the trial. That was prepared for the trial, not by the prosecuting attorney or the defense attorney and they have said that under oath. The law is very clear in this, if you are showing part of a video in a trial the defense attorney has the right to see and present all of the video. Right now the FBI is holding the SD Card, but the Utah police and the Utah prosecutor and defense attorney are the ones who have the right to it, not the FBI.

Taking a critical piece of evidence from the scene of the crime -- everyone involved has conceded this is what happened. Then giving it to a third party other than the investigators in charge of the investigation, and then giving the investigators an altered form of that evidence (3 minute clip from a 26 minute video is an altered form). The law is very clear that this is very likely a felony.

Even if the FBI were to now give the SD Card to the Utah police and prosecutor you couldn't use it unless we could prove the chain of evidence had not been broken. Everything that has happened over this year has seriously compromised a critical piece of evidence. That is not a conspiracy theory, that is the law.

The "theory" is about what might or might not be on the SD Card. I have not put forth any theory about that. All I have said is that this is critical evidence that should be part of the trial, not the altered 3 minute clip, but the whole 26 minutes.

I have also said because of the possibility that a felony was committed the phone that was used to text someone right after the SD Card was taken should be examined, who did they text and what was said in the text. Within minutes of taking the SD Card it was inserted into a laptop, examined and shown to a second person. All of that needs to be investigated. It is incredibly strange behavior to take place within ten minutes of Charlie Kirk being shot, and it is possibly a felony.
That's why they're called Conspiracy THEORIES, and why this discussion belongs in that channel.
 
My comment stands. In the South, the have a wake (celebration). In New Orleans, that includes a brass band.
OK, people grieve differently, that is true, and my comment stands, when a person is murdered with a pre meditated murder 80-90% of the time it is someone in their close circle that is responsible (family, friend or colleague) and police will scrutinize them closely. You may not like it, but that is tough, the job of the investigator is not to be intentionally rude, but at the same time they cannot stop doing their job because they are accused of "being rude".