I do not remember the whole history of how it came to be, but where the vatican is now, it was a place that hated christians and it had something to do with Peter being put on the cross there to push the christians away, then it became the burial grounds for many christians. Many christians kept going there and later it became the vatican. I remember the story to be quite rich and motivating to me, but it is also very long.
Mary the mother of my Lord (Heresy?)
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just picking out the Mary 'isn't more special' part.
I think it would be the greatest privilege,blessedness,honor to carry in my womb (if I were a woman that is) the Creator of the heavens and earth, the Savior of all mankind even He who made the maiden that carried Him. I think that would make her 'special' as she is more blessed among all women which interestingly is a word you have not included.
I think it would be the greatest privilege,blessedness,honor to carry in my womb (if I were a woman that is) the Creator of the heavens and earth, the Savior of all mankind even He who made the maiden that carried Him. I think that would make her 'special' as she is more blessed among all women which interestingly is a word you have not included.
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To be saved is to be børn again to be be børn again is gods salvation all Praise must go to god.
For now you are a christian you have converted to the true gospel .
You have excepted jesus into your life your salvation is jesus. all praise goes to god.
From this day on you shall know the truth.
Salvation though can be lost because now that you know the truth if you sin you are deliberetly sining.
Unless i know sincerly you did not mean it.
Be careful not to.become to righteous on my lost sheep now that you know the truth, because as much as i wanted you back i want them back to .
For now you are a christian you have converted to the true gospel .
You have excepted jesus into your life your salvation is jesus. all praise goes to god.
From this day on you shall know the truth.
Salvation though can be lost because now that you know the truth if you sin you are deliberetly sining.
Unless i know sincerly you did not mean it.
Be careful not to.become to righteous on my lost sheep now that you know the truth, because as much as i wanted you back i want them back to .
Q
To be saved is to be børn again to be be børn again is gods salvation all Praise must go to god.
For now you are a christian you have converted to the true gospel .
You have excepted jesus into your life your salvation is jesus. all praise goes to god.
From this day on you shall know the truth.
Salvation though can be lost because now that you know the truth if you sin you are deliberetly sining.
Unless i know sincerly you did not mean it.
Be careful not to.become to righteous on my lost sheep now that you know the truth, because as much as i wanted you back i want them back to .
If in doubt always ask why
For now you are a christian you have converted to the true gospel .
You have excepted jesus into your life your salvation is jesus. all praise goes to god.
From this day on you shall know the truth.
Salvation though can be lost because now that you know the truth if you sin you are deliberetly sining.
Unless i know sincerly you did not mean it.
Be careful not to.become to righteous on my lost sheep now that you know the truth, because as much as i wanted you back i want them back to .
If in doubt always ask why
K
Understand, I am not defending either side. Some of them believe these people are dead, and resting until the resurrection on the last day. Even if not, they say, why not just go to Jesus directly? I started as a boy being taught to pray to saints, so I have had plenty of chance to try it both ways. I have to say, going to Jesus directly is way faster, more efficient, and He even answers me regularly with understanding. The saints never did that for me.
Look,no one ever forced me to pray to any Saint.That will tell u Monks,if u have big problem of any kind.If u have no childrens,if u are sick a lot itc.
On example,vine of Saint Simeon teh Myrrh bearer,at Mountain Athos with prayers and fast,helped on hundereds of the faithful to get childrens.This is truth and many today find it when all resources are empty.That is at Hilandar Monastery,vine old 800years and from grave of Saint Simeon coming out myrrh.
K
The problem with this kind of information is data like this: click>>Effects of Prayer on Immune System If it works without a saint, there is no way to prove that what happened back then was due to the saint.
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i think its important to know that the chair of saint peter is not the chair which st peter actualy sat on.
The Chair of Saint Peter is a relic conserved in St. Peter's Basilica, enclosed in a gilt bronze casing that was designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and executed 1647-53.
The chair of a bishop is a cathedra. The cathedra in Saint Peter's Basilica was once used by the popes. It was therefore often thought to have been used by Saint Peter himself, but was in fact a gift from Charles the Bald to the Pope in 875
this is a list of popes and bishops dating back to the apostle peter. but should not be taken as direct predesessors to peter our christian leader. peter the apostles title as bishop of rome was given after his death.
here is a list of popes bishops etc dating back to peter.
List of popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
what you should also understand that many of them popes where of eastern christian orthodox a long long time ago and they are not now ???
the new testament was ordered to be put together by this guy constantine ??? just after the
Emperor Constantine the Great: Pagan conversion to christian.
after his conversion he was the first roman pagan to be baptized.
he then ordered that all the the church leaders get together and write the new testament ????
The Chair of Saint Peter is a relic conserved in St. Peter's Basilica, enclosed in a gilt bronze casing that was designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and executed 1647-53.
The chair of a bishop is a cathedra. The cathedra in Saint Peter's Basilica was once used by the popes. It was therefore often thought to have been used by Saint Peter himself, but was in fact a gift from Charles the Bald to the Pope in 875
this is a list of popes and bishops dating back to the apostle peter. but should not be taken as direct predesessors to peter our christian leader. peter the apostles title as bishop of rome was given after his death.
here is a list of popes bishops etc dating back to peter.
List of popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
what you should also understand that many of them popes where of eastern christian orthodox a long long time ago and they are not now ???
the new testament was ordered to be put together by this guy constantine ??? just after the
after his conversion he was the first roman pagan to be baptized.
he then ordered that all the the church leaders get together and write the new testament ????
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i think its important to know that the chair of saint peter is not the chair which st peter actualy sat on.
The Chair of Saint Peter is a relic conserved in St. Peter's Basilica, enclosed in a gilt bronze casing that was designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and executed 1647-53.
The chair of a bishop is a cathedra. The cathedra in Saint Peter's Basilica was once used by the popes. It was therefore often thought to have been used by Saint Peter himself, but was in fact a gift from Charles the Bald to the Pope in 875
this is a list of popes and bishops dating back to the apostle peter. but should not be taken as direct predesessors to peter our christian leader. peter the apostles title as bishop of rome was given after his death.
here is a list of popes bishops etc dating back to peter.
List of popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
what you should also understand that many of them popes where of eastern christian orthodox a long long time ago and they are not now ???
the new testament was ordered to be put together by this guy constantine ??? just after the
Emperor Constantine the Great: Pagan conversion to christian.
after his conversion he was the first roman pagan to be baptized.
he then ordered that all the the church leaders get together and write the new testament ????
The Chair of Saint Peter is a relic conserved in St. Peter's Basilica, enclosed in a gilt bronze casing that was designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and executed 1647-53.
The chair of a bishop is a cathedra. The cathedra in Saint Peter's Basilica was once used by the popes. It was therefore often thought to have been used by Saint Peter himself, but was in fact a gift from Charles the Bald to the Pope in 875
this is a list of popes and bishops dating back to the apostle peter. but should not be taken as direct predesessors to peter our christian leader. peter the apostles title as bishop of rome was given after his death.
here is a list of popes bishops etc dating back to peter.
List of popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
what you should also understand that many of them popes where of eastern christian orthodox a long long time ago and they are not now ???
the new testament was ordered to be put together by this guy constantine ??? just after the
after his conversion he was the first roman pagan to be baptized.
he then ordered that all the the church leaders get together and write the new testament ????
Look Kenisyes,i dont know why someone do not believe in this,by Faith everything will be given.If faithful come and do exactlly what Monks says there are no reason that it fail.There are many faithful who cannot have childrens,and after they try everything they come to Hilandar Monastery.When no medicine can help,God is their last hope.I will try to give some testimonies.
i think its important to know that the chair of saint peter is not the chair which st peter actualy sat on.
The Chair of Saint Peter is a relic conserved in St. Peter's Basilica, enclosed in a gilt bronze casing that was designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and executed 1647-53.
The chair of a bishop is a cathedra. The cathedra in Saint Peter's Basilica was once used by the popes. It was therefore often thought to have been used by Saint Peter himself, but was in fact a gift from Charles the Bald to the Pope in 875
this is a list of popes and bishops dating back to the apostle peter. but should not be taken as direct predesessors to peter our christian leader. peter the apostles title as bishop of rome was given after his death.
here is a list of popes bishops etc dating back to peter.
List of popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
what you should also understand that many of them popes where of eastern christian orthodox a long long time ago and they are not now ???
the new testament was ordered to be put together by this guy constantine ??? just after the
Emperor Constantine the Great: Pagan conversion to christian.
after his conversion he was the first roman pagan to be baptized.
he then ordered that all the the church leaders get together and write the new testament ????
The Chair of Saint Peter is a relic conserved in St. Peter's Basilica, enclosed in a gilt bronze casing that was designed by Gian Lorenzo Bernini and executed 1647-53.
The chair of a bishop is a cathedra. The cathedra in Saint Peter's Basilica was once used by the popes. It was therefore often thought to have been used by Saint Peter himself, but was in fact a gift from Charles the Bald to the Pope in 875
this is a list of popes and bishops dating back to the apostle peter. but should not be taken as direct predesessors to peter our christian leader. peter the apostles title as bishop of rome was given after his death.
here is a list of popes bishops etc dating back to peter.
List of popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
what you should also understand that many of them popes where of eastern christian orthodox a long long time ago and they are not now ???
the new testament was ordered to be put together by this guy constantine ??? just after the
after his conversion he was the first roman pagan to be baptized.
he then ordered that all the the church leaders get together and write the new testament ????
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