Do NOT Address NOR Speak TO the Holy Spirit

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Jn 14:16, 26, 16:26, 16:7.
In errant modern Bibles, but not in the King James Bible.

John 14:[SUP]16 [/SUP]And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:[SUP]26 [/SUP]But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16: [SUP]7 [/SUP]Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

BTW: I think you referred a wrong reference with 16:26.

John 16:[SUP]26 [/SUP]At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

The point is the Son of God that came into the world is the prophesied Counsellor.

Isaiah 9:[SUP]6 [/SUP]For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

When the Holy Spirit speaks, we are really hearing the Good Shepherd speaking to us through the Holy Spirit.

John 16:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. [SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

So once again, there is no speaking to the Holy Spirit because He is not speaking of His own volition but speaking what He hears from the Son, the Bridegroom. In response, we are to go before that throne of grace because it is only by the Son that we have access to the Father.

The Holy Spirit is not our access to God. The Son is. The Holy Spirit in us is the Son's access to us.

So when the Good Shepherd is really speaking to us, then where should our relationship with God be? Through the Son.

In a room where an interpretor is translating the one speaking to you, it is not only customary, but polite and respectful to speak to the foreignor, wherein in this Heavenly scenario, the Son needs no interpretation because the Son of God knows the mind of the Spirit in us so that the Spirit has no need to say anything back to the Son, but we are called to relate to God the Father by way of the Son as He is the only way we can relate to God by. That is why the Son is called the Bridegroom.

Why is it that so many believers keep excusing themselves for not returning to their first love when God has reconciled the world through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ?

Do you believe what Jesus said here or not?

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus wasn't just talking about salvation but about how anyone can come to the Father and that is only by way of the Son.
 

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im not a lawyer but i am a witness. when you are led by the Spirit, it is very interactive. i didnt become aware of the Spirit until i confessed and asked Jesus for help. after that things got pretty intense. imagine if you can that there is someone that has been with you your whole life and you forgot they were there. then one day you become aware of them in yourself, and in everyone around you. you react to it and it reacts to you. speech becomes unnecessary as it is a part of you and you are becoming a part of it again. look, listen and learn. i thank God for the day and ask Jesus to forgive my sins i also ask for guidance from the Spirit. the misunderstandings people have can clearly be seen in the following passages.

mark 4 v 11-13

the problem isn't that we cant talk to the Spirit, the problem is so few of us listen and follow the Spirit with faith.

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mark 4v11-13
the rainbow connection
 

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Well... you have a conundrum then, because for those that you claimed that do not really believe, they had called on the Person of the Holy Ghost. You will find every one of them acknowledging that Jesus is the Son of God and that God raised Him from the dead. According to the written scriptures, they are saved.

Romans 10:[SUP]8 [/SUP]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; [SUP]9 [/SUP]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

So the only way you can discern and reprove those false manifestations is to acknowledge that Jesus really meant what He has said in HOW we are to come to God the Father in anything... by way of the Son.

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Otherwise... believers that denounce holy laughter movement, being slain in the spirit, the Toronto Blessings, and the Pensacola Outpouring are all doing the same thing they are doing when they seek tongues as a sign from the Spirit Himself.

That is why all invitations points to the Son to avoid false spirits that coms with signs which are NOT the real indwelling Holy Spirit.
EXCELLENT POINT! YET ENOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLS ON AND SAYS THEY BELEIVE DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO, THE DEMONS BELIEVE BROTHER, THE PROBLEM IS THEY DO NOT EXCERCISE FAITH IN CHRIST, THEY PLAY CHURCH BROTHER IN ORDER TO DECEIVE ANYONE THEY CAN, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS BY CS LEWIS A VERY DEEP READ AND REVEALING OF THE DEMONS THAT PLAY CHURCH, NOT ONLY THERE BUT AT OUR HOMES AS WELL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHERE MOST OF US ARE EXPOSED IN ANGER AND FRUSTRATIONS OF THIS LIFE HERE AND NOW, REVEALING OUR CARNAL MINDS THAT NEED TO DIE IN OUR MIND AND BE RENEWED AND THEREFORE WE WILL BE AS WISE AS A SERPHENT YET HARMLESS AS A DOVE
 

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No. That is not what it is about. May God help you to see this.

All believers that believe in the Lord Jesus Christ has the Holy Spirit and are saved.

However, we shall be judged by what we build on that foundation... that includes works that deny Him.

It is possible then to suffer a thief to break through when believers are misled into thinking they can seek to receive the Holy Spirit again and after a sign. It is an apostate teaching to seek to receive another "Spirit" or another "Jesus" again.



By addressing and speaking and praying unto the Holy Spirit, they are stepping outside of the will of God in how we are to approach God the Father and that is only by way of the Son. That is why God will permit a strong delusion to occur when they believe that lie because they are breaking the commandment of His invitation in how they are to continually relate to God the Father by way of the Son.

To avoid false spirits, believers ae not to address nor speak nor pray unto the Holy Spirit but come to the Father by way of the Son.
i SEE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST THE WORKS ISSUE AS PAUL WROTE ABOUT IN 1 COR 3, BUT THEN YOU GO ON TO SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THE HOLY GHOST BEFORE THE SON FORGETTING (NULLIFYING) THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE WHICH IS IN JESUS CHRIST WHOM IS MADE HEAD OF ALL POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES.
I never saw it this way and Wow! the devil is very tricky, doing his best to get anyone to take thier eyes off of Christ!!! For the devil comes as an angel of llight to possibly fool the very elect, to de-rail the trian, as one not even notice having thier eyes on signs and wonders in place of Christ Jesus
 
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I see that You are confused with the doctrine of the "Holy trinity" :confused:
 

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In errant modern Bibles, but not in the King James Bible.


Jesus wasn't just talking about salvation but about how anyone can come to the Father and that is only by way of the Son.
And it is by the Holy Ghost that one finds Jesus and gets saved it is the Holy Spirits Job to bring us to belief, being born again, it is the words of the Holy that anyone truly comes to belief through the finished work of Christ

[h=3]John 3[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]The New Birth[/h]3 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. [SUP]2 [/SUP]This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. [SUP]6 [/SUP]That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ [SUP]8 [/SUP]The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
 
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im not a lawyer but i am a witness.
Did you know that to be a true witness in God's eye, you have to have another witness with you?

John 8:[SUP]17 [/SUP]It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

That is why when witnessing as an individual believer of the Good News, our witness has to be in sync with the Holy Spirit's witness.

John 15:[SUP]26 [/SUP]But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: [SUP]27 [/SUP]And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Since this is how the Holy Spirit will witness:

John 16:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. [SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me:

And this is how our witness is to be:

John 5:[SUP]31 [/SUP]If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

John 7:[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law?

Then together as led by the Spirit of God, we would not be speaking about ourselves nor of the Holy Spirit in seeking glory for ourselves nor glory for the Holy Spirit but together, in testifying of the Son in seeking the glory of the Son that is the Christ without sharing in any way in that spotlight.

John 3:[SUP]28 [/SUP]Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. [SUP]29 [/SUP]He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. [SUP]30 [/SUP]He must increase, but I must decrease.

Therefore any pointing to us or to the Holy Spirit is a false witness when we are led by the Spirit of God to point sinners to Jesus and believers to continue relating to God the Father by way of the Son in being His disciples in serving the Son.

By believers ALSO pointing to the "Spirit" along with the Son, is the same thing as pointing away from the Son as in instead of the Son and thus ceasing to be a true witness of the Son by being out of sync's with the witness of the Holy Spirit's.

when you are led by the Spirit, it is very interactive. i didnt become aware of the Spirit until i confessed and asked Jesus for help. after that things got pretty intense. imagine if you can that there is someone that has been with you your whole life and you forgot they were there. then one day you become aware of them in yourself, and in everyone around you. you react to it and it reacts to you. speech becomes unnecessary as it is a part of you and you are becoming a part of it again. look, listen and learn. i thank God for the day and ask Jesus to forgive my sins i also ask for guidance from the Spirit. the misunderstandings people have can clearly be seen in the following passages.
That's pointing to the Holy Spirit and there is no becoming a part of it again when He has been promised by Jesus to abide in you forever.

John 14:[SUP]16 [/SUP]And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

The real indwelling Holy Spirit would never make you aware of His Presence as if some supernatural phenomenon is needed to draw your attention to Himself in taking your eyes off of the Son to relating to Himself and thus pointing to Himself away from the Son which is what the spirit of the antichrist would do as antichrist means "instead of Christ" as in "instead of the Son of God".

And by asking for guidance from the Holy Spirit, your witness of the Son with the Holy Spirit's witness has been made obscure. Readers cannot see that truth that the Son, Jesus Christ, is the Good Shepherd as He guides us through the Holy Spirit within us. Since the Holy Spirit only speaks what He hears, then our counsel is really coming from the Son, the Bridegroom, in how we are to be chaste in our relationship to God the Father by.

FYI Jesus refers to the Person of the Holy Spirit as an he or a him and not an "it". Clarity is needed because some errant believers think of the Person of the Holy Spirit as a force when He is Person of the Triune God to serve as a Witness with us.
 
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EXCELLENT POINT! YET ENOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLS ON AND SAYS THEY BELEIVE DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO, THE DEMONS BELIEVE BROTHER, THE PROBLEM IS THEY DO NOT EXCERCISE FAITH IN CHRIST, THEY PLAY CHURCH BROTHER IN ORDER TO DECEIVE ANYONE THEY CAN, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS BY CS LEWIS A VERY DEEP READ AND REVEALING OF THE DEMONS THAT PLAY CHURCH, NOT ONLY THERE BUT AT OUR HOMES AS WELL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHERE MOST OF US ARE EXPOSED IN ANGER AND FRUSTRATIONS OF THIS LIFE HERE AND NOW, REVEALING OUR CARNAL MINDS THAT NEED TO DIE IN OUR MIND AND BE RENEWED AND THEREFORE WE WILL BE AS WISE AS A SERPHENT YET HARMLESS AS A DOVE
Brother. May He help you to see that ... that is a dangerous percedent to have that kind of mentality because then you would be judging those that profess them.. even if it is just in your mind... that they are not really saved.

Matthew 18:[SUP]6[/SUP]But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! [SUP]8 [/SUP]Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. [SUP]9 [/SUP]And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. [SUP]12 [/SUP]How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [SUP]13 [/SUP]And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

So if a brother trespass in this fashion below, he is still a brother.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; [SUP]2 [/SUP]Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

They are still a brother because they were of faith, and now they are not but has gone astray by a snare of the devil.

We cannot have that mentality of judgment when it comes to other believers when we are led by Him to do this below.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, [SUP]25 [/SUP]In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; [SUP]26 [/SUP]And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
 
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i SEE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST THE WORKS ISSUE AS PAUL WROTE ABOUT IN 1 COR 3, BUT THEN YOU GO ON TO SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THE HOLY GHOST BEFORE THE SON FORGETTING (NULLIFYING) THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE WHICH IS IN JESUS CHRIST WHOM IS MADE HEAD OF ALL POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES.
I never saw it this way and Wow! the devil is very tricky, doing his best to get anyone to take thier eyes off of Christ!!! For the devil comes as an angel of llight to possibly fool the very elect, to de-rail the trian, as one not even notice having thier eyes on signs and wonders in place of Christ Jesus
It is good to see that the Good Shepherd has led you to look at that post again to see that truth. As it is, I know it is not in my power to help believers to see the truth, but only to share the truth as He enables me to.
 
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I see that You are confused with the doctrine of the "Holy trinity" :confused:
No. Please feel free to read the entire thread with His help in understanidng and discerning where I am coming from because I believe in the Triune God, but it is because of other spirits in the world that God the Father has narrowed the way in how to approach Him and that is by way of the Son. So when Jesus had given this invitation below, it was also a commandment for believers to continue to follow in relating to God the Father through the Bridegroom so that believers may avoid false spirits.

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
 
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And it is by the Holy Ghost that one finds Jesus and gets saved it is the Holy Spirits Job to bring us to belief, being born again, it is the words of the Holy that anyone truly comes to belief through the finished work of Christ

John 3

New King James Version (NKJV)

The New Birth

3 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. [SUP]2 [/SUP]This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. [SUP]6 [/SUP]That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ [SUP]8[/SUP]The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
It is by believing in the Son of God is when we are born again and thus when we have received the promise of the Spirit.

So the job is really the Father's as plainly stated by the scripture that helps us to see the Truth to believe in the Son of God.

John 6:[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

The job of the Holy Spirit in believers is to bear witness through the believers that testify of the Son for the hearers to hear, but because not everyone that hears believes, the job of revealing the Son to sinners that seek Him is the job of the Father's.
 
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I have not been reproved by the Lord for my openness and acknowledging of the Holy Spirit i welcome Him and delight in Him how be it if i insult(blasphmey) Him openly that i can not be forgiven which is true if done and now interacting and communing and fellowshipping participating with Him personally that now this is a sin, is it equal with blasphmey? Or is it a universal taboo or grevious sin against Jesus or the Father, these implications are not my experience also not explicit in scriptures. The Son is perfect in union with the Father and with the Holy Spirit and the Spirit is in Divine Perfect union with the son and the Father their perfect union has no jealousy or separation as we approach them the Father and the Son fully receive what we give to the Holy Spirit of our selves. Their relationship is perfect Divine perfection in our relationship with them. How can i detach any part of my conscious or anypart of my innerself from the Holy Spirit or the Father or the Son, i have not learned this from the Lord or the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are divinely perfect concerning union toward each other in relationship to each other and to us, they do not deny their self from us, they have determined perfectly their roles and function in their self for us in salvation and in all eternity but still perfect in union and all divine attributes with no jealousy or taboos or sins fromour intimacy with them. So, i just can not agree with this premise for the conclusion is not intimacy but distance and obscurity with them all. Is it that i can not be intimate with the Holy Spirit but only with Jesus or any other combination.
 
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Jesus gives us access to Him by the Holy Spirit So by the Holy Spirit we have access to Jesus that gives us access to the Father perfect union perfect access perfect unity with each one perfectly. No tabooos no jealousy no missing the mark. Some demon spirit is going to interupt the Holy Spirit move Him aside and lead us astray with out the Holy Spirit responding or we are unaware of it? E. 2:18
 
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I have not been reproved by the Lord for my openness and acknowledging of the Holy Spirit i welcome Him and delight in Him how be it if i insult(blasphmey) Him openly that i can not be forgiven which is true if done and now interacting and communing and fellowshipping participating with Him personally that now this is a sin, is it equal with blasphmey?
We have communion with the Spirit but that does not mean nor justify talking to the Spirit. When having this communion with the Spirit, that means we are listening to the Good Shepherd through the Holy Spirit within us and is responding by going to and relating to the Good Shepherd in return for by the Son is He the only means to God the Father.

Is it that i can not be intimate with the Holy Spirit but only with Jesus or any other combination.
The onlt intimacy with the Holy Spirit is knowing Him as dwelling within us.

John 14:[SUP]16 [/SUP]And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Listening to the Holy Spirit means knowing where the words He is speaking is coming from.

John 16:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. [SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

It is because of other spirits in the world that God is reconciling some of these sinners from their familiar spirits and worshipping them to a personal reconciled relationship with God through the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. May He help you to see why believers are to continue to strive through that strait gate so that they may continue relating to the Bridegrom as a chaste bride and not have their eyes taken off of the Son in fellowship or in worship when seducing spirits come in when the spotlight is on the Holy Spirit.

When believers are in sync with the witness of the Holy Spirit by His help and by His grace, our eyes will always be on the Son in relating to God the Father by.

John 15:[SUP]26 [/SUP]But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: [SUP]27 [/SUP]And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

1 Corinthians 2:[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Colossians 3:[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Because of the Nicene creed ad certain hymnals, the way in approaching God the Father other than by way of the Son in worship has been broadened to inlcude the Holy Spirit with te Father & the Son.. and sometimes hymnals just places the focus solely on the Spirit and lead believers to sing as if they have not received the promise of the Spirit yet. So not all hymnals are Biblical and of the truth and creeds that were meant to keep out heresey, have brought in heresey as that agreement alone being shared by all denomenations makes it not of Him in according to His words.

2 Corinthians 6:[SUP]16 [/SUP]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Because of the prophesied falling away from the faith and that Jesus even questioned about finding faith in all the earth when He comes as the Bridegroom, may He awaken sleeping believers to the fact that now is the time to get ready by going before that throne of grace for help from the author & finisher of our faith to help us lay aside every weight and sin in departing from iniquity as one of those iniquities is going around the Son in relating to God the Father by... which they are not relating to God for doing so.. and why He will say unto those wayward believers that He knew not them not whence they are because of the direction they took in coming to Him was broad and not narrow as Jesus, the Son of God, is the only way to God the Father.

Matthew 7:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Luke 13:[SUP]24 [/SUP]Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber...[SUP]7 [/SUP]Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

That is why the Son of God is called the Bridegroom as we are to be the chaste bride of Christ in relating to God through Him.
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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The Spirit and the Bride Say come where to be with them all, the Holy Spirit gives us access to Jesus and the Father so if i approach Him i am opening myself to anger and resentment from Jesus and the Father missing the mark sin? Your premises for me are fallacious to come to such conclusion.
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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Fellowship means friendship showing friendship greeting is anintegral part kind helpful favorablydisposed help support listening and communicating
2 Cor. 13:14 the Greek 2842 means participation, Communion, fellowship, partnership, socialintercourse, communication.
 
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Where is it written that the Holy Spirit is called the Counsellor?
Jn 14:16, 26, 16:26, 16:7.
In errant modern Bibles, but not in the King James Bible.
Are you sure about that?

The Greek word, parakletos, which means "one called along side to help," is translated in 1Jn 1:2 as "advocate."

"Advocate" is a legal term for anyone who helped someone in trouble with the law; i.e. counsellor.

The same Greek word, parakletos, is used in Jn 14:16, 26, 16:26, 16:7, and is better translated "counselor," than "comforter" as it is in the KJV.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Ya know.... as a "human" person... I tend to respond to those who interact with me, answer those who address or speak to me... those who don't well... there is not RELATIONSHIP. WHY would anyone think the HOLY SPIRIT... who is a PERSON of the trinity... should be any different????
 
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Did you know that to be a true witness in God's eye, you have to have another witness with you?
Not so.

1) That was the Mosaic law only for court witnessing to a crime.

2) The Mosaic law has been set aside (Heb 7:18-19).

3) In the NT it again applies to charges of misconduct.