the verses you cite are void in toto, they prove nothing(GBUY)
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. [SUP]4
John 17:3
[/SUP]If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God
1John 4:15
Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. [SUP]13 [/SUP]I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
1John 5:12&13
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live
1John 8:6
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John3:16
For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
John 6:40
I'm gonig to leave it there. You have no plain scripture to support your extra biblical demands unto salvation, none at all
So there can be no proper debate. To use your words, my scriptures prove nothing, so to you the plain scriptures are obviously not important
What is important to you is what you revel in doing, theologising scripture, pouring over it,and pouring over the work of scholars and theologians, to try and prove your points. I doubt there is in anything in this world that gives you greater enjoyment. That's fine, and this is after all a debating website
But the plain words of scripture stand against you, and always will, I repeat, they are my bottom line not the theological extrapolations of the fallible huiman mind