Exactly when and what triggered the ceasing of the gifts of the Spirit?

[homwardbound]

lol me again quit forgetting that i need to add stuff
now i dont know if my pastor has raised anyone from the dead but he has the Spirit of Revival and also He has been to the nations his Spiritual father is morris cerillo i dont know to much about everything he has done but i do know these few things

Who is your object of Faith reside in ?

 

[Powemm]

If you work along different churches, you will get flooded with different beliefs.

Doctrines are viewpoints... from peoples perspectives in there encounters " one on one" relationships with God, inspired words written in a book by the hand of god . Thoughts God "himself" , not a doctrine gave them .. Think "outside the box " of the book ..
how was the bible formed? before it ever came to be?
Many people are being deviced and short changed in the "corrupt belief" .. they can't do the same ..
There is coming a time .. the generations to follow .. Will not know Wich one is true ..
there is only one... Man can't give it .. Because man keeps changing it ..
we are to be inspired by God... One on One..
This is the reason war exists ..
man does not believe God can do this with Him..

 

[homwardbound]

OK, You are entitled to your opinion!

The phrase, "being baptized by the Holy Ghost" is nowhere mentioned in John 3.

Worshiping in Spirit and Truth is something different, and "being baptized in the Holy Spirit" is something altogether different.


The above verse/ prophecy is directly and specifically addressed to those gathered in Jerusalem at that time. If you read the entire CONTEXT, Jesus told them NOT TO LEAVE JERUSALEM. So this verse is for those apostles/disciples that were gathered at Jerusalem and were witnesses to Christ's resurrection. This prophecy was fulfilled in Acts 2.

We must be able to distinguish between HISTORY and the COMMANDS of Christ.

As you said, if I am missing something, please pray for me that God would reveal it to me.

well then bottom line are you indwelt by the Holy Ghost (Spirit) ?

 

[homwardbound]

The above verse that I am referring to is in Acts 1:4-5 (NIV)
4On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.5For John baptized with[SUP]a[/SUP] water, but in a few days you will be baptized with[SUP]b[/SUP] the Holy Spirit.”

Again how are you led? and thanks for the freedom in free choice as I give the same to you

 

[homwardbound]

There is no teaching from our Master declaring the gifts of the Holy Spirit as not enduring until the end of this age. From the Word there is no such teaching. Where did the idea come from in the first place? Right, the wisdom of man.

beautiful discernment

 

[homwardbound]

Zone isn't saying the church is a building. She is saying the church is individuals who come together in Christ to make up the body. One individual believer doesn't make up the entire body of Christ, but part of the body. One Christian is not the Church, but part of the church, and when Christians assemble together...yes, God is there because he resides in us all.

Yes and her Church just as all Cbhurches here on the ewarth are made up of non-believers acting as believers as well as believers the unbeievers acting as beleivers are there to bring in damnable heresis and the believers are there to correct the errors, and are ususally ex-communicated by these denominations. Paul called forus to in one unity not have all these differant sects. My place is right and your place is wrong. We are allcalled todivide the word of truth correctly asnd if any one of us is in bondage then we are not dividing the truth correctly.
There can't beone Church 100% right here on earth. This earth is not God's kingdom as he had Petyerr pout down his sword and restored thatman's ear that came to take him away telling Peter that his Kongdom is notof this world if it were hew would have called the angels and they would have fought. God's kingdom as Ihave posted is in Heaven Hebrews 8 anjd if he were here today in the flesh he would not be in any of the man-made buildings of worship

 

[homwardbound]

The Church is the Body of Christ in this age, all of its members. It is not theology nor is it popular thinking or what has been voted upon. The Church is Yeshua.

Here is the accurate rendition of the Temple of Yahweh, the church.

Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Our understanding is not from hypotheses, theories, theologies, etc, no our understanding is from the Father and of Christ.

Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Col 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

in 100% agreement

 

[onlinebuddy]

Again how are you led? and thanks for the freedom in free choice as I give the same to you

well then bottom line are you indwelt by the Holy Ghost (Spirit) ?

I acknowledge, confess and declare that Jesus is the Son of God who has come in the flesh. He is the Christ and has died for my sins. All authority in heaven and earth has been given to Jesus. Salvation is found in no one else.

Now, I ask you dear brother: Who could be leading me? And how?

 

[annointedshepherd]

How is holy laughter scriptural when we are told anything by the they Holy Spirit must be done in an orderly manner?


Gal 5:22-23 and Titus 2:4-6 states the fruist of the Spirit is self control, and we are to also be sober minded. How is holy laughter self control?

it also states that there is Joy
Then he said to them, “Go your way. Eat the fat and drink sweet wine and send portions to anyone who has nothing ready, for this day is holy to our Lord. And do not be grieved, for the joy of the LORD is your strength.”
neh. 8:10
i went threw alot of depression in my younger life and when i was laughing i felt a release from alot of that i havent laughed so hard in along time see when your laughing theres JOY there its amazing God is Good but i shall tell you that God is moving people do get Hit with the power of God and fall out its awesome to see someone get touched by God

 

[Elizabeth619]

Yes and her Church just as all Cbhurches here on the ewarth are made up of non-believers acting as believers as well as believers the unbeievers acting as beleivers are there to bring in damnable heresis and the believers are there to correct the errors, and are ususally ex-communicated by these denominations. Paul called forus to in one unity not have all these differant sects. My place is right and your place is wrong. We are allcalled todivide the word of truth correctly asnd if any one of us is in bondage then we are not dividing the truth correctly.
There can't beone Church 100% right here on earth. This earth is not God's kingdom as he had Petyerr pout down his sword and restored thatman's ear that came to take him away telling Peter that his Kongdom is notof this world if it were hew would have called the angels and they would have fought. God's kingdom as Ihave posted is in Heaven Hebrews 8 anjd if he were here today in the flesh he would not be in any of the man-made buildings of worship

It doesn't matter if Christians have a building to gather to worship or they worship in a corn field. You seem to think that people feel the church is an actual building. The building is nothing more than a shelter over your head.
You talk down to zone about attending services in a building, and to others who do the same yet say no congregation is 100% right so why are you judging what others choose to do or where they choose to worship? If no one is right then you are in that category as well.
You talk about division in the church, but isn't refusing to assemble with others causing division as well? You are intentionally segregating yourself from other Christians

The bible does not give the guidelines on how or where to worship, and certainly doesn't condemn gathering in buildings for worship. It never gives a specific location or the the size of the location of where to worship either. What it does say is what is to take place in the meetings (Hebrews 10, Colossians 3)

Acts 5:42

And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ

 

[annointedshepherd]

Who is your object of Faith reside in ?

Christ Jesus Yashua Ha'masiach
i follow them but God has put me in this church is what i was stating its all God man and when God tells me to leave i will well i will be in august God provided for me to go to bible colledge

 

[Elizabeth619]

it also states that there is Joy
Then he said to them, “Go your way. Eat the fat and drink sweet wine and send portions to anyone who has nothing ready, for this day is holy to our Lord. And do not be grieved, for the joy of the LORD is your strength.”
neh. 8:10
i went threw alot of depression in my younger life and when i was laughing i felt a release from alot of that i havent laughed so hard in along time see when your laughing theres JOY there its amazing God is Good but i shall tell you that God is moving people do get Hit with the power of God and fall out its awesome to see someone get touched by God

There is a time and place for everything(Ecc Chapter 3)). Laughing incoherently in worship is not biblical. Scripture plainly says there is to be order in the church.

Proverbs 14:13 Even in laughter the heart may ache, and rejoicing may end in grief.

Laughter cannot give you truth. Just because a person laughs doesn't always mean they are happy, content or even more holy. It can also be a sign of anger, revenge, and even madness(insanity)

Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that uncontrollable laughter is the fruit of the spirit.

There was no one on this Earth that was filled with the spirit more than Jesus, and nowhere in scripture is it recordedwhere he laughed in such a way.
You, yourself have stated you did not know why you were laughing. That would mean you were confused by it wouldn't it?
1 Cor 14:33 tells us God is not the God of confusion, but the God of peace as in ALL churches

 

[Powemm]

I dont think anyone is condemning anyone .. We are coming together to share views and share information .. everyone's view is important .. Because others are coming behind us to look .. All coming from different places .. All wanting to get to the same final one.. I think it's extremely healthy to do so... this is how we learn
God has everyone of us "exactly" where we are suppose to be.. After all, He orders our steps .. To prepare us for something greater to come ...
our confidence is in the Lord... I Want to hear everyone's view .. they are like stones not yet turned over .. He loves leaving us nuggets of His treasure ..
Blessings everyone ..

 

[zone]

lol me again quit forgetting that i need to add stuff
now i dont know if my pastor has raised anyone from the dead but he has the Spirit of Revival and also He has been to the nations his Spiritual father is morris cerillo i dont know to much about everything he has done but i do know these few things

hi annointedshepherd
i'm filled with compassion for you.
may The Lord God keep and protect you.
zone

 

[JaumeJ]

According to the Word, no man may make this confession unless it is of the Holy Spirit. Also, according to the Word, the Father, Yahweh, has drawn you to His Son, His Only Begotten Son. You are special, of course all who confess Yeshua, Jesus are. Blessed be our Holy Father Almighty now and forever, amen.

I acknowledge, confess and declare that Jesus is the Son of God who has come in the flesh. He is the Christ and has died for my sins. All authority in heaven and earth has been given to Jesus. Salvation is found in no one else.

Now, I ask you dear brother: Who could be leading me? And how?

 

[zone]

Unclefester, Zone and others,

Would you agree that if a local church was called to make disciples of men and woman and train them up to send them into various parts of the world to preach and impart the gospel as they are called by God to go, wouldn't that take special gifts of teaching, exhorting, helps and governments and others things to bring that to past in the will of God? It would also take much discipline in the word and a daily cross in the lives of all those involved in that endeavor. Certain ones in that local body would be given by God as gifts to that local church and there would be those who have been given certain gifts, talents and skills for the purpose of building and edifying that local church in the undertaking call and work of that ministry. That's how I see a local church being edified in the unity of the Spirit for the work of the ministry and how they progressively grow up in the unity of the faith unto mature believers, vessels of honor set apart as meet for the master's use and prepared unto every good work. Having gifts given by the Spirit and being exercised in those gifts is just a part of what it takes to make it happen by grace through faith and in the love of God, who sent his Son and now wants to send us as his ambassadors with a word and ministry of reconciliation to a lost world.

coconut, that all sounds good.
but we can't lose sight of what the topic is.

we are beginning to shave down the original issue - did the supernatural gifts in Acts/Corinth etc continue throughout church history?

the answer is no. they were partial and miraculous. for that time.

what we have is better. complete.

it's supposed to be anyways.

that completion or unity we are clearly told comes from growing up and into the faith delivered once for all.

we have already been given everything we need to mature in the faith.

John 17:17
“Father, sanctify them by your truth, because your word is truth.”

 

[zone]

God does not reside in buildings Sister he resides in the believer as I have posted you are rejecting truth in Him (Christ) he came to not bring peace but a sword dividing Soul and Spirit he came to give each of us life back in the Spirit just like Adam and Eve had before eating of that tree of death. Today by the finished work of Christ we get to eat from the tree of life that is in christ and given to us freely by Christ and have life everlasting, and this is not in man-made Church this is in Heaven itself which I am made a citizen of, put back here as an ambassador representing the love, Joy , peace and righteousness found in the Holy Ghost of promise, being a partaker in this amazing gift given freely by God through the cross of his Son

to whom are you an "ambassador representing the love, Joy , peace and righteousness found in the Holy Ghost"?
and to whom are you accountable?
anyone?

 

[onlinebuddy]

According to the Word, no man may make this confession unless it is of the Holy Spirit. Also, according to the Word, the Father, Yahweh, has drawn you to His Son, His Only Begotten Son. You are special, of course all who confess Yeshua, Jesus are. Blessed be our Holy Father Almighty now and forever, amen.

Moved by your words. Thank you Jack!

 

[zone]

And so was Jesus Lone Ranger and the religous leaders of his day put him to death and nothing is truly new under the sun.

lol home.
none of us is Jesus.
and He started calling together His people a.s.a.p.
right?

anyways

 

[zone]

Yuo are not receptive to others believes and are not encouraginf to others it is your way or the highway you are fighting in and of flesh whether you realise this or not you are Sister that is what this has to do with this.

Re: Exactly when and what triggered the ceasing of the gifts of the Spirit?

do you know the answer to this home?