Are you a leader?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
May 29, 2018
6,609
4,417
113
65
lawton ok
#21
Jesus is my Leader..

I would not say i am a good follower,,, But good or bad follower Jesus is still my King of Kings..

When it comes to other people i don't seek to be a leader and i rarely see any human Being worthy to follow..

That is probably way i ended up single.. Most people either was to lead in a relationship or follow..
Leader? No, I might a good pointer though.
 

Bingo

Well-known member
Feb 9, 2019
1,829
1,386
113
#22
"Pertinent verses were mentioned..........perhaps testimony of the heart, and life experiences,
living life and sharing our love of Christ, how God's love has changed us, or NOT. ~From this side
of the' glass'...~I tried my selfish way for over four decades...and, I didn't do well...believe it!
And, I also know all the 'lessons' on earth are useless....without APPLYING the instructions...
reading 'lessons' feels good, pumps me up, etc. etc....striving to APPLY the 'instructions' requires
daily maintenance and inventory of myself, and helps me grow spiritually, as part of God's realm
of things...here in the now...spiritual and worldly harmony are essential in keeping in tune with
God's 'presence' of the Holy Spirit within...me....so what is the purpose, if I am not right with my
spiritual well being...of Christ In Us."....look around folks....where is the Spirit of Christ our Lord God..
many mean well by their opinions and discussion....is not in tune with God's Divine Spirit of more
relevance in these UNCERTAIN times...and...from this side of the 'glass'...I believe so."...:)
"Whew, done sharing for now.".......:)......Love ya all..........:) 110666-b4f36bc848f1c43c244fff22de8af3ca.png
'Praise God'
 

Attachments

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
16,067
2,991
113
#23
We all look to Jesus, Yeshua, as the Head of all the Body Members, yet, while He is away, there are appointed varied works for all, not all are teachers, not all are healers, etc, yet there is order withing th Body.

Otherwise we would all be running helter-skelter without any organization other than caotic anarchy. Many people within the framework of this forum have guided me over the years in Yeshua, Jesus, and I m not ashamed nor doubtful in any manner that this has been by His design. If a person nees no guidance within the Body, then that person is perfect in himself.
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#24
There are leaders who are corrupt and who got their position through evil ways. There are also those who are wise and appointed by God. As for me, I can see myself as a leader and I think God is leading me to that path. I have been praying the prayer of Jabez (1 chronicles 4:10) It is to help me find God's will in my life and for protection and to enlarge my influence. My willingness and weakness + God's will and supernatural power = my expanding territory/influence.
Thanks, tinkerbell. I'm glad to hear God is calling and using you in His work. You were speaking more of leadership at work or in church?
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#25
Honestly, I consider myself a bond-servent for Christ, a follower of Him. I have always been a better Indian than a chief, as I tend to be meek. I def do not command respect. I do think we should give that to everyone, though, because of who we are called to be not because of others. I do want to be an ambassador for the cause of God. Do you consider yourself a leader of leaders?
My grandma used to sing this with words "Heart of Jesus meek and mild..." Somehow the words stuck with me.. you wouldnt think or see me as a leader for i would whisper more than speak. Long ago, actually in Gr. 4, unfortunately!, our class voted me as class president, while my seatmate, our vice president. (Or was that just a dream now i think of it!) I was too soft spoken and did not want to preside. I'd ask her to speak for me at times. Miserable days you're expected to speak, when you'd rather hide under your table hehe. By high school, thankfully our music teacher let me join glee club. And while i still did not relish speaking in reports, for ex., i could at least sing in a group before crowds, which somehow raised my confidence even a bit=).

No, i dont see myself as a leader of leaders now, but that is a goal for us, along with being a kingdom-builder and ambassador for Christ...
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#26
I know of many people in my time that are "leaders" in the spirit though seemingly not so. This is where we ust learn the teaching of not to judge by appearances but with right judgment.

A very early example in my walk was a wonderful lad from a "ghetto" area where I was sharing the Word. He could not read so he had to hear the Word. I shared all I could with him and others with joy.

After a few days he came to me to tell me something. He was beaming and smiling big time. He said do you know what, Jack? I am David. Well, my first thought was he was on something other than hot coffee. Then he went on to say, "I am David, we all are, and I pick up a stone, (one of those five), and I slay Goliath with It. Goliath is Sastan and the Stone is Jesus."

I weep for gladness even now as I recall how humbling it was for me. learned to try to see our Lord everywhere because of this illiterate, beautiful child. Please pray he remained in the way, that was in 1969.
Thanks for the share, jack. This reminds me of our pastor in a southern province. He was a small, dark handsome fisherman. But he taught us about God's Word. And there was this shoeless evangelist who roamed around also speaking God's Word. (They knew what they were talking about and that was more important.) He did not wear shoes because of deformed foot. But people listened to him.
 

CharliRenee

Member
Staff member
Nov 4, 2014
4,778
5,424
113
#28
My grandma used to sing this with words "Heart of Jesus meek and mild..." Somehow the words stuck with me.. you wouldnt think or see me as a leader for i would whisper more than speak. Long ago, actually in Gr. 4, unfortunately!, our class voted me as class president, while my seatmate, our vice president. (Or was that just a dream now i think of it!) I was too soft spoken and did not want to preside. I'd ask her to speak for me at times. Miserable days you're expected to speak, when you'd rather hide under your table hehe. By high school, thankfully our music teacher let me join glee club. And while i still did not relish speaking in reports, for ex., i could at least sing in a group before crowds, which somehow raised my confidence even a bit=).

No, i dont see myself as a leader of leaders now, but that is a goal for us, along with being a kingdom-builder and ambassador for Christ...
Oh mar, that was touching, thank you. Your grandma was pretty special it seems. I can so relate to this...Miserable days you're expected to speak, when you'd rather hide under your table hehe. You are right, we are called to, I suppose. I reckon, He puts us where He can most use us, all for His Glory. It does make our purpose so awesome being Kingdom-builders and ambassadors for Christ. Thanks for your response. God Bless you and yours.
 

Miri

The Thingy Member
Jul 22, 2012
9,233
2,227
113
UK age 51
#29
Thanks to all who read and responded. When Israel was told to be the head and not the tail, it meant they were to lead, right? I hear and read abt people not really thinking or dreaming of leading, but when God called, how could they not obey? From Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah.. and Paul was not eloquent either, just as a few i hear abt on radio. When we're commanded to go to all the world and make disciples... and we teach and train another, discipling is also abt leading, is it not? As some here have said, even mothers have that leadership role which is not always obvious, but is there.

I wish i could reply individually to more here, but will find time, hopefully later. To han, yes, Jesus is our best example of a leader to follow. I hope He really is that leader we follow today.

Deut 28 v 13. the chapter about blessings and curses. Basically God said if they
followed and obeyed they will be blessed, if not they will be cursed.

I’ve often heard this verse mis used in all sorts of context, usually by the
prosperity gospel.

It’s not anything to do with salvation we can never earn salvation, or leadership I don’t think.
Many people were positioned without doing anything - Saul/Paul, Cyrus, for example, many also
just by birth into a royal family. That still happens today.

Even David said why do the evil seem to prosper.
The early Christians were fed to the lions and there is still perscecution of Christians.
Jesus turned it on it’s head He said blessed are you when men curse you and do all
kinds of evil against you! Why. Because we know Jesus and they do not, we have eternal
life they have eternal death. We have hope they have nothing.

We are no longer blessed by obeying works based religion. We are blessed by Jesus
who gave His life. We obey out of love and a desire to know God and follow love itself.
We are cursed by not believing and eternal death.

That said, all things do still work together for good for those that love the Lord, even
if there is hardship along the way. 😊
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#30
The question was, “Are you a leader?”

Well, yes and no. :giggle:

Sometimes I lead because I know what to say or do.....other times, I follow because I don’t know what to say or do!! Lol! :giggle:
I think you're right!
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#31
2 Samuel 23:3-4 New Living Translation (NLT)
3 The God of Israel spoke.
The Rock of Israel said to me:
‘The one who rules righteously,
who rules in the fear of God,
4 is like the light of morning at sunrise,
like a morning without clouds,
like the gleaming of the sun
on new grass after rain.’
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#32
I'm at the end of Revelation again. And here's a verse from the Lord:
Rev. 22. 5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 

ArtsieSteph

Senior Member
Apr 1, 2014
5,514
681
113
28
Arizona
#34
I don’t think I have qualities for a good leader, but I notice I have a tendency to take the lead in starting things sometimes. Whether it be conversation, activity, ect. So it may not sadly be that I’m a leader but that I can be controlling. 😅
 

HanCris

Active member
Nov 12, 2018
78
142
33
#35
I don’t think I have qualities for a good leader, but I notice I have a tendency to take the lead in starting things sometimes. Whether it be conversation, activity, ect. So it may not sadly be that I’m a leader but that I can be controlling. 😅
You are a potential leader. You just need an opportunity sis. God bless you.
 

mar09

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2014
4,342
736
113
#36
Thankful to have had the chance to read thru another book by John Maxwell, who wrote The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership. Allow me to share some quotes from his book The 17 Indisputable Laws of Teamwork: (Whoo, so much to learn=)

“It's better to prepare than to repair.”

“For the person trying to do everything alone, the game really is over. If you want to do something big, you must link up with others. One is too small a number to achieve greatness. That’s the Law of Significance.”

“Good things happen to a team when a player takes the place where he adds the most value. Great things happen when all the players on the team take the role that maximizes their strengths—their talent, skill, and experience.”

“Effective teams have teammates who are constantly talking to one another.”

“The road to the next level is always uphill, and if a team isn’t intentionally fighting to move up, then it inevitably slides down.”

“Nothing much happens without a dream. For something really great to happen, it takes a really great dream.”

“You can’t take the team to the next level when you haven’t mastered the skills it takes to succeed on a personal level.”

“what gets rewarded gets done. If you praise and honor the people who epitomize the values of the team, those values get embraced and upheld by other members of the team. There is no better reinforcement.”

“What happens to a team when one or more of its members constantly play out of position? First, morale erodes because the team isn’t playing up to its capability. Then people become resentful.”

“Nobody is a whole team . . . We need each other. You need someone and someone needs you. Isolated islands we’re not. To make this thing called life work, we gotta lean and support. And relate and respond. And give and take. And confess and forgive. And reach out and embrace and rely . . . Since none of us is a whole, independent, self-sufficient, super-capable, all-powerful hotshot, let’s quit acting like we are. Life’s lonely enough without our playing that silly role.”

“If you think you are the entire picture, you will never see the big picture.”

“THE LAW OF COUNTABILITY Teammates Must Be Able to Count on Each Other When It Counts”

“THE LAW OF THE PRICE TAG The Team Fails to Reach Its Potential When It Fails to Pay the Price”

“as the challenge escalates, the need for teamwork elevates.”

“THE LAW OF THE CHAIN The Strength of the Team Is Impacted by Its Weakest Link”

“You must have a long-range vision to keep you from being frustrated by short-range failures.” —CHARLES NOBLE”

“Most people’s natural inclination is to judge themselves according to their best qualities while they measure others by their worst. As a result, they point to areas where their teammates need to grow. But the truth is that every person is responsible for his own growth first.”

“Everyone is important, but everyone isn’t equal. The person with greater experience, skill, and productivity in a given area is more important to the team in that area.”

“If everyone doesn’t pay the price to win, then everyone will pay the price by losing.”

“Every human being has value, and every player on a team adds value to the team in some way.”

“When you do well, you think it’s worth it. When you sacrifice so much and you finally do well, it feels really good.”

John C. Maxwell, The 17 Indisputable Laws of Teamwork: Embrace Them and Empower Your Team