CHRISTMAS! COULD THIS BE THE LAST CHRISTMAS BEFORE THE RAPTURE AND JESUS'S RETURN

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PlainWord

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CATCHING UP (RAPTURE)(JOHN 14:3) AND IF I GO AND PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN, AND
RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; THAT WHERE I AM, THERE YE MAY BE ALSO.
I mentioned already that this is the other passage that Pre-Tribbers read wrong.

Jesus was speaking to Peter and by extension the church.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am , there ye may be also.

Notice the first part of verse 3 provides a statement of fact which is then used as a condition for the second part of the verse. This is how they spoke in those days. Jesus is saying in other words, "if you believe that I've gone to prepare a place for you, then believe that I will come again and gather you to myself so that where I am (now on earth), you will be with me also."

Paul uses this same kind of speech here:

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

"If you believe that Jesus died and rose again, then believe that those who sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." Jesus did not say that he will come again and take us to heaven. He said He will come again and we will then be with him wherever he is. The wherever is here on earth for 1,000 years then the eternal state of Heaven.
 

PlainWord

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HEY!!!!AGAIN!! NO SKIN OFF MY NOSE IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE LEFT BEHIND!!! THAT IS YOUR FREE CHOICE!!!
I pray that I will be left behind. It is not good to be taken. Heaven is coming to earth.

What does Jesus say about the tares in Mat 13? It is the wicked who are taken and burned. Notice we are NOT taught that we are gathered or raptured BEFORE the wicked, it is the other way around.

38 The field is the world ; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil ; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear , let him hear .
 
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your choice!!! OBEY JESUS OR NOT!!! ====GOD GIVES BELIEVERS HIS INSTRUCTIONS== BELIEVERS ARE TOLD TO ==1 THESSALOIANS 1:10==Wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. WE BELIEVERS ARE CAUGHT UP SO THAT WE ARE DELIVERED FROM WRATH TO COME. 36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” LUKE 21:36==CATCHING UP (RAPTURE)(JOHN 14:3) AND IF I GO AND PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN, AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; THAT WHERE I AM, THERE YE MAY BE ALSO
 

posthuman

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I mean were in the tells you to use caps everytime you reply to a thread? Seriously is it really that neccesary? Normal people will write in lowercase unless they are shouting. wanting to be heard.
give him some credit;
the last few posts have been a mix of upper and lower cases.
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You have already been deceived my friend. The false Christ appears in about 33 months from now.
you were making sense until you said this.

what, the Affordable Health Care act is the abomination that causes desolation?

really, i don't know why you would make such an assertion.
 

PlainWord

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your choice!!! OBEY JESUS OR NOT!!! ====GOD GIVES BELIEVERS HIS INSTRUCTIONS== BELIEVERS ARE TOLD TO ==1 THESSALOIANS 1:10==Wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. WE BELIEVERS ARE CAUGHT UP SO THAT WE ARE DELIVERED FROM WRATH TO COME. 36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” LUKE 21:36==CATCHING UP (RAPTURE)(JOHN 14:3) AND IF I GO AND PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN, AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; THAT WHERE I AM, THERE YE MAY BE ALSO
That's right - WAIT. The First Christ to appear is the antichrist. Think about it logically. This is what you believe:

Christ comes and raptures away His Church.
Then there is a Huge revival as millions upon millions who witness the event turn to Jesus
Then Antichrist appears and deceives most of these new believers into thinking Christ came back a second time
Then the Real Christ comes back again and there is a second gathering and transforming.

First, Paul teaches a falling away, not a revival. Second if you missed the first rapture and came to Jesus you obviously would read the Bible and know that the antichrist was coming any minute so why would anyone fall for him? If you saw the real Christ in all His glory, won't you be able to see the false Christ isn't the same person and know that you have to wait? The Rapture doesn't even pass the logical test, let alone any scriptural test.
 

PlainWord

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give him some credit;
the last few posts have been a mix of upper and lower cases.
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you were making sense until you said this.

what, the Affordable Health Care act is the abomination that causes desolation?

really, i don't know why you would make such an assertion.
Who said anything about Obama Care? The False Prophet isn't Obama. It's Pope Francis.
 

PlainWord

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3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written , MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
 
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HEY!!!!AGAIN!! NO SKIN OFF MY NOSE IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE LEFT BEHIND!!! THAT IS YOUR FREE CHOICE!!!
hey you would be left behind if you aint stop believing in this left behind nonsense
 

PlainWord

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The false prophet is not rome
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

I know, it is the Vatican and who runs the Vatican???
 

PlainWord

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16 And saying , Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

These are the colors of priests.

 

PlainWord

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24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
 

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Pope Francis to Visit in Israel in May By: Jewish Press News Briefs Published: December 19th, 2013

Pope Francis will make his first official visit to Israel for only 48 hours in late May, Israel media reported Thursday. The trip is scheduled for May 25-26 and the pope reportedly will conduct mass only in Bethlehem, in the Palestinian Authority, and not in Jerusalem. He probably will probably visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust The Vatican did not confirm or deny the report, and is spokesman Father Federico Lombardi told the French news agency AFP, “It is in the first instance up to the pope himself to decide upon and to announce such a visit.” He admitted that official have made a preparatory visit to Israel last week.

Read more at: The Jewish Press
 

p_rehbein

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Originally Posted by PlainWord
You have already been deceived my friend. The false Christ appears in about 33 months from now.

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I hope this was in jest or some such........goodness.............
 

PlainWord

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Originally Posted by PlainWord
You have already been deceived my friend. The false Christ appears in about 33 months from now.

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I hope this was in jest or some such........goodness.............
Watch therefore and know the times and seasons.
 

p_rehbein

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Watch therefore and know the times and seasons.
Only problem is Jesus would question your KNOWING when His return will be...........seems like He said something about that.

Anyway, IF you are certain about your prediction, then please would you "liquidate" ALL your assets and send me a Cashier's Check for the balance? I mean, YOU aren't gonna need it right?
 

PlainWord

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Only problem is Jesus would question your KNOWING when His return will be...........seems like He said something about that.

Anyway, IF you are certain about your prediction, then please would you "liquidate" ALL your assets and send me a Cashier's Check for the balance? I mean, YOU aren't gonna need it right?
Please do not mis-quote scripture friend. What does Jesus really say???

Mat 24:

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Did you catch this? I highlighted it for you so that you can see it clearly. And what does Paul teach us on the subject concerning the timing of the Lord's return?

1 Thes 5:

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep , as do others; but let us watch and be sober


Let me ask you, are you watching Brother? Do you know what season we are in?? Perhaps you should pay attention as you might learn something.

As for selling my stuff, that is for people who have been misled into believing in some phony Rapture. The real Lord comes after the tribulation. I may be killed but if I survive and you are still here, you can have my earthly treasures.
 
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p_rehbein

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So, ok, you are the Prophet to warn the world of the MONTH of His return? Ok.............if you say so.........


(now, how about that Cashiers Check? Seriously, what need will you have of earthy things in about oh, say, 33 Months?)
 
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YES!!! ALL THE SIGNS JESUS TOLD BELIEVERS TO LOOK FOR JUST BEFORE HIS RETURN ARE HERE TODAY. WE SEE WORLD EVENTS EACH DAY THAT TELLS US THIS WORLD IS IN HUGE TROUBLE AND CANNOT LAST MUCH LONGER. JUST AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH WE SEE THAT SIN AND EVIL GROWS IN THE MIND AND HEARTS OF MANKIND. YOUR ONLY HOPE IS TO CONFESS AND REPENT,BELIEVE IN AND ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR TODAY!!!
 

p_rehbein

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YES!!! ALL THE SIGNS JESUS TOLD BELIEVERS TO LOOK FOR JUST BEFORE HIS RETURN ARE HERE TODAY. WE SEE WORLD EVENTS EACH DAY THAT TELLS US THIS WORLD IS IN HUGE TROUBLE AND CANNOT LAST MUCH LONGER. JUST AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH WE SEE THAT SIN AND EVIL GROWS IN THE MIND AND HEARTS OF MANKIND. YOUR ONLY HOPE IS TO CONFESS AND REPENT,BELIEVE IN AND ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR TODAY!!!
PLEASE READ YOUR COMMENT AGAIN...........TO SEEK UNDERSTANDING.......NO, WAIT, HERE LET ME EXTRACT THE NECESSARY VERBAGE FOR YOU......

QUOTE: ALL THE SIGNS JESUS TOLD BELIEVERS TO LOOK FOR JUST BEFORE HIS RETURN ARE HERE TODAY.

AND THEN THIS: JUST AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH WE SEE THAT SIN AND EVIL GROWS IN THE MIND AND HEARTS OF MANKIND

SO, BASICALLY, THOSE "SIGNS" JESUS TOLD BELIEVERS TO LOOK FOR HAVE BEEN AROND SINCE THE TIME OF NOAH?

(............sigh.............)