Know what I hate?
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I had to google "tripp pants".
Yeah, I've seen those ridiculous things before.
So you're "that guy", huh?
I wouldn't let you near one of my kids dressed like that, let alone "minister" to them.
If you'd wear those in public, it's pretty clear what's "written on your heart".
Same thing that's written on the hearts of the tattooed and sickeningly pierced.
"Look at me! Check me out! I'm awesome! I'm not a rube like that guy in the tie!"
If you're a Christian, you've been adopted into a Royal Family.
Why not dress accordingly?
Putting on a collared shirt and neck tie doesn't make you a robot,
It makes you at least look like a respectable representative of Christ.
Wearing "tripp pants" makes you look like a trouble-making punk.
Yeah, I've seen those ridiculous things before.
So you're "that guy", huh?
I wouldn't let you near one of my kids dressed like that, let alone "minister" to them.
If you'd wear those in public, it's pretty clear what's "written on your heart".
Same thing that's written on the hearts of the tattooed and sickeningly pierced.
"Look at me! Check me out! I'm awesome! I'm not a rube like that guy in the tie!"
If you're a Christian, you've been adopted into a Royal Family.
Why not dress accordingly?
Putting on a collared shirt and neck tie doesn't make you a robot,
It makes you at least look like a respectable representative of Christ.
Wearing "tripp pants" makes you look like a trouble-making punk.
@ Seraph_Aximili,
I wrote this because you mentioned that your youth was getting flack from members of your church because of their dress, & I only suggested a means to take the excess spititual weight off of them. You won't be able to stop the critics, but you have the respect of your youth to influence them away from these critics by suggesting they change their dress a little bit to shut the critics up. This would take a huge weight off their shoulders when they need it the most & enable them to show maturity against the voices of these naysayers. Regardless of how you or I or these naysayers believe about these things, The main thing is to supply these youth with a place of worship, a place of peace & refuge so that they can grow up spiritually & stand on their own. Isn't such a small thing worth the price? I would think so.
I wrote this because you mentioned that your youth was getting flack from members of your church because of their dress, & I only suggested a means to take the excess spititual weight off of them. You won't be able to stop the critics, but you have the respect of your youth to influence them away from these critics by suggesting they change their dress a little bit to shut the critics up. This would take a huge weight off their shoulders when they need it the most & enable them to show maturity against the voices of these naysayers. Regardless of how you or I or these naysayers believe about these things, The main thing is to supply these youth with a place of worship, a place of peace & refuge so that they can grow up spiritually & stand on their own. Isn't such a small thing worth the price? I would think so.
There are thing we're supposed to hate.......
I hate it when Internet Theologians posts a dozen paragraphs on a thread over & over to "wear out" the saints & get them to dislike someone else's thread so much they'll turn it off. That is just innappropriate & evil.
I also hate it when such people drive good chatters crazy & get them banned. Not criticiizing the mods, such people that lose it need to be banned. It's a shame though decent people are driven to this attitude to do so. I understand that 'cause I've been in their shoes a few times & had to repent. It's a trap that will snare you.
I hate it when Internet Theologians posts a dozen paragraphs on a thread over & over to "wear out" the saints & get them to dislike someone else's thread so much they'll turn it off. That is just innappropriate & evil.
I also hate it when such people drive good chatters crazy & get them banned. Not criticiizing the mods, such people that lose it need to be banned. It's a shame though decent people are driven to this attitude to do so. I understand that 'cause I've been in their shoes a few times & had to repent. It's a trap that will snare you.
Stuck in the old scene much? Try on a pair, then maybe you'll understand just how comfy they are. I look just fine and dress how I please. I lead people to Christ dressing how I do just fine. You should look into the Whosoevers movement and read some of their amazing testimonies; Lacy Sturm being an amazing example. Stop serving Christ with a closed heart and looking at how people dress and look through the eyes of the Holy Spirit. Jesus loves us all unconditionally and made us all unique, so why should we all look the same?! Different types attract different types of people into the Kingdom of God. Who are you to judge someone simply because they dress differently then what you like or personally approve of?
OHHHH!!! WHYYY???!!! You were soooo close! Why did you have to say that? I was loving what you were saying up until this comment! Who cares what critics think! I don't care what critics have to say because why are they focusing on what I am wearing anyway? If I was dressed like Jezebel a critic is not someone who will help me. A Spiritual leader, a parent, or a close friend will. I like the bohemian look and if I was able to dress like that I would and if people criticized me because of it then so what? It's my style and they will just have to find a way to get over it. Do not EVER conform to please other people. Change because GOD has put it on your heart to do so.
You missed the point. Critics in the home church can cause mayhem depending what office they possess. If they are elders, you'd better care.They can shut down programs they don't like. I knew one that ordered the Bus ministry to quit picking up poor kids because "their" kids wanted nothing to do with them. It happens.
Then don't attend a church that is so petty! Let me ask you something: If they told you how to worship your LORD, would you listen to them? If they told you how you should pray, would you listen? I was going to a church that claimed to be like no other church; to be a better church, but, when it came right down to it, they were more interested in pleasing people than pleasing GOD and one day they told a woman that she should stop worshiping the way she does because it scares people. It makes them uncomfortable. All she was doing was raising her hands, closing her eyes, swaying in an interesting way, but she was pleasing GOD. It was nothing obscene or disruptive, but there are people that are petty enough to complain about such a pure thing. They told me to watch what I say even when it was what GOD told me to say so you know what I did? I left because there was no point in being in a divided church that really is only for the people and not the Holy Spirit. You can not let anybody bully you. Even your church.
I think God's revolutionizing how we think about church and gatherings. Old traditions are tumbling down and new things are rising up. Image is becoming less of a thing and hearts and souls are the pull of a ministry. I got into it a bit in this blog I posted randomly earlier http://christianchat.com/blogs/seraph_aximili/2783-what-i-believe-what-i-see-time-revolution.html I expect things to continue to revolutionize and people are either going to be amazed and walk in the new freedom or caught up in a storm of chaos and a type of traditionalism that's been around since organized religion started. Church shouldn't bind us but set us free!
Why are you so afraid of nontraditionalism? Who are you to say what God is doing and how He works? There's a shift in the supernatural happening and rather than embrace it you have nothing but doubt because you're stuck in a particular way of thinking. The fruit of the Spirit is abundant in a lot of ministries that aren't't the cookie cutter Billy Graham stetting. Look at The Whosoevers and Bethel's Supernatural School of Discipleship. Instead of condemning and deciding what you think God wants and letting a spirit of fear and religion guide your heart why don't you let the Holy Spirit guide you instead! Read what Ryan Ries says and preaches. Read what Danny Silk and others from Bethel have to say and look into the amazing and miraculous things Jesus is doing. Get out of your box my friend!
There is such a fine line between the Freedom of GOD and the freedom of man, though. The laws are the Commandments and the rules are the Teaching of the Word. When does tolerance become acceptance? GOD never taught us to accept evil. That is what more and more churches are teaching now. Be careful with the word evolution, buddy. I would like to understand what "shift in the supernatural" you are referring to? The church I was talking about in my last comment posted on fb that the world loves the character of Yahshua... I'm telling you that they are blind because now more than ever people hate the character of Yahshua! Or the evil that is behind them does. Our country is now officially against Israel and this American nation is completely oblivious to that fact. When does tolerance turn into acceptance? When you start throwing out pieces of the Word and give into compromise. The world talks of evolution, but the Word calls it adultery. I am not sure which movement of GOD you are talking about so I am marking this post as a sort of "just FYI" comment.
The shift I'm referring to is "on earth as it is in heaven" actually happening. Rather than people talking about how there were signs and wonders in the days of the Bible we're actually seeing and experiencing them. Miracle healing, signs, angels showing up in the middle of worship sessions. God's taking people out of the stagnant and luke warm waters and things are on fire. Jesus is becoming a relationship, life written on the hearts and minds of people rather than a Sunday religious ritual for a couple hours.
As for our country turning against Israel; just because some of our government disagrees with them doesn't mean we as a people do. I know for freaking sure that my government does not speak for me.
As for our country turning against Israel; just because some of our government disagrees with them doesn't mean we as a people do. I know for freaking sure that my government does not speak for me.